Avengers: Doomsday General News & Discussion Thread

Funny enough they didn't remove the July 23rd, 2027 slot. So if any movie makes sense it that spot between the two Avengers movies, it would be Doctor Strange 3.
The rumor I keep seeing pop up is they were at some point, maybe SDCC, announcing DS3, Thor 5, and maybe another project to round out Phase 6. I sort of believe DS3 and Thor 5 can happen as we have had enough chatter. I think the other one listed was World War Hulk, and that I won't believe until I see it lol! But yeah, Doctor Strange 3 makes sense there
 
The rumor I keep seeing pop up is they were at some point, maybe SDCC, announcing DS3, Thor 5, and maybe another project to round out Phase 6. I sort of believe DS3 and Thor 5 can happen as we have had enough chatter. I think the other one listed was World War Hulk, and that I won't believe until I see it lol! But yeah, Doctor Strange 3 makes sense there

While I would love Strange 3, I think if anything the July 2027 spot will go to that Deadpool sequel that Reynolds is writing.

That’s the only project in development that actually got a write up in the trades.
 
While I would love Strange 3, I think if anything the July 2027 spot will go to that Deadpool sequel that Reynolds is writing.

That’s the only project in development that actually got a write up in the trades.
I dont think that will end up there. Doctor Strange 3 and Thor 5 have been in the rumor mill for a few years now and whatever Reynolds is working on has been barely worked on. So I can't see it coming then
 
I'm good with delaying this and Secret Wars. The extra time should hopefully let them work out any kinks so that makes me a bit more optimistic about how these will turn out.
 
The rumor I keep seeing pop up is they were at some point, maybe SDCC, announcing DS3, Thor 5, and maybe another project to round out Phase 6. I sort of believe DS3 and Thor 5 can happen as we have had enough chatter. I think the other one listed was World War Hulk, and that I won't believe until I see it lol! But yeah, Doctor Strange 3 makes sense there
If its DS3, I'm really hoping they bring back Raimi.
 
I dread of another Thor movie. A 5th one, really? So we are getting two Thor movies after that 1 Shang-Chi movie in 2021.

I think if they are presenting in SDCC in July, I would expect them to finally announce the other phasix movies, and have the cast of Doomsday there, with several additional cast reveals.
 
I dread of another Thor movie. A 5th one, really? So we are getting two Thor movies after that 1 Shang-Chi movie in 2021.

I think if they are presenting in SDCC in July, I would expect them to finally announce the other phasix movies, and have the cast of Doomsday there, with several additional cast reveals.
To be fair, as disappointing people want to say the last one was, it made well over 700 mil WW. One of their biggest post Endgame successes.
 
Also to add to my above post, let us remember the rumored title of the sequel to Shang-Chi was The Wreckage of Time. And the rings being tied to Kang seemingly was hinted at in the 1st movie. So this Kang pivot hurt Shang-Chi tremendously. Between that and the director was going to be the one who did Shang-Chi, it is evident he was going to be a huge factor and the sequel was going to continue that push in the Kang story. But this pivot killed all that, so no doubt Shang-Chi 2 is back at square 1. Given the director moved on to Spider-Man, maybe even a new creative team will end up working on it. All this to say, I see why Thor 5 may be coming first. But yes, it is criminal Shang-Chi 2 hasn't happened yet and it will hurt his viability as a franchise potentially.
 
To be fair, as disappointing people want to say the last one was, it made well over 700 mil WW. One of their biggest post Endgame successes.
Exactly. Even though it had a below average reception it still did really well, not to mention that it also didn’t have China or Russia’s box office. If it wasn’t for that it would’ve done roughly the same as Ragnarok’s 850M. So yeh, Thor is a character that is financially viable both in the solo outings and as an integral part of the avengers films.

Shang Chi, for example, is a much bigger gamble, it barely broke even and it has that sticky situation with the Chinese BO which is always important for the worldwide totals.
 
Also Marvel could be taking lesser risks after the bad BO results on quite a few of the movies that have came out recently, now they have the F4 that could bring in some decent numbers but nothing out of the ordinary and of course they have to rely on their co-owned Spider-Man stuff to do some strong business because that IP is so strong that regardless of the quality it will always do decent to great business.

Doctor Strange could bring in some good business but they once again will probably have to really juice that movie up like they did with Multiverse of Madness by bringing in Scarlet Witch, F4 characters, X-Men, What-If… also teasing a million cameos that didn’t even come to fruition… so Doctor Strange 3 to live up to the second one will need to have something special attached to it as well.
 
If I were Marvel, my answer for the Doctor Strange thing would be make it a team up movie with Strange, Hulk, Surfer, and Clea. Like a pseudo comic book Defenders movie to defeat Dormammu and maybe prevent an incursion. That's my pitch at least.
 
If I were Marvel, my answer for the Doctor Strange thing would be make it a team up movie with Strange, Hulk, Surfer, and Clea. Like a pseudo comic book Defenders movie to defeat Dormammu and maybe prevent an incursion. That's my pitch at least.
Yeh something around the team up lines, maybe even the Illuminati with Strange, Namor since they have him already, Mr Fantastic from F4 is just around the corner so they could use him, as they could be featuring the new Professor X that should be showing up in the new X-Men film they’ll likely put out soon after Secret Wars, also a new version of Black Bolt for the big screen could be cool…

The new X-Men film from Marvel is definitely a solid card they have to pull out and I bet after they’ll squeeze the last bit of juice from the OG team in Doomsday/Secret Wars it will more than likely create the apetite from more and new version on the MCU X-Men characters that should be a big stepping stone for the MCU long term future.
 
Exactly. Even though it had a below average reception it still did really well, not to mention that it also didn’t have China or Russia’s box office. If it wasn’t for that it would’ve done roughly the same as Ragnarok’s 850M. So yeh, Thor is a character that is financially viable both in the solo outings and as an integral part of the avengers films.

Shang Chi, for example, is a much bigger gamble, it barely broke even and it has that sticky situation with the Chinese BO which is always important for the worldwide totals.
Many countries were still adjusting to the covid restrictions when Shang-Chi was released. I had to wait til November just to see it and Black Widow in the big screens, since cinemas around my city, were closed in September 2021. 430 million+ globally at the time was good enough for a sequel to be greenlit. But like Spider-Fan, what happened with Kang probably changed things and then Destin was sent to direct Spidey instead. But in my opinion, if they were brave enough to do Brave New World/Thunderbolts - Shang-Chi 2, shouldn't be more of a gamble especially if its out after Doomsday anyway which will feature Shang-Chi too.
 
Anyways going back on topic again, it sucks that the next avengers films got delayed but I guess it’s for the greater good, it will give them more time to try and figure out this enormous jigsaw puzzle with a ton of moving parts and more time for the special effects army to do their magic as well.

Also they’ll likely use the time to wove in further films like F4 and the next spider-man film into the next avengers installments in order to create a more cohesive narrative of what’s going on in the world because right now it’s all over the place with very little lead up.
 
The delays didn't improve Brave New World, so I can't be optimistic. From the day the directors were announced, I don't think this is going to be as good as the other Marvel movies that Russo brothers directed. I would be surprised if they pull this off again. But I just hope its not going to be Brave New World/Quantuamania/Eternals/X3/Spider-Man 3 of Avengers movies. I think a movie as good as Age of Ultron would be a win to me, given how messy phase 4/5 have been over all.
 
Putting Eternals next to X3, Antman and the like.... none can be taken seriously with quotes like that.
 
Putting Eternals next to X3, Antman and the like.... none can be taken seriously with quotes like that.
You don't have to take it seriously. Rotten Tomatoes/Cinemascore would tell you that X3 scored better though. Quantumania has the same Cinemascore as Eternals. Eternals is only 1% higher than Quantumania in Rotten Tomatoes.

X3 vs E
56% vs 47%.
A- vs B

Also looking at this thread
SHH forum members in the last page, have Eternals at 32, 29, 25, 30, Dumpster fire, 33, grade c, don't like, not good and 35.

Eternals is not critical smash and I would fear Doomsday or any Marvel movie, to have the same reception as that movie!
 
The delays didn't improve Brave New World, so I can't be optimistic. From the day the directors were announced, I don't think this is going to be as good as the other Marvel movies that Russo brothers directed. I would be surprised if they pull this off again. But I just hope its not going to be Brave New World/Quantuamania/Eternals/X3/Spider-Man 3 of Avengers movies. I think a movie as good as Age of Ultron would be a win to me, given how messy phase 4/5 have been over all.

Apparently, the delays did help improve Brave New World. Based on early test screenings and comments from people who saw those initial cuts, the finished film is reportedly a much better film than what was originally shown. Even if the end result now is considered just “okay,” or “serviceable”. It sounds like the earlier version was significantly worse, so there was clearly room for improvement, and it seems they made the most of that. Even though the movie could have been much better imo.

As for Shang-Chi 2, I’m confident we’ll get it, but it’ll likely come after Secret Wars. Having Shang-Chi appear in Avengers: Doomsday and Secret Wars should give his character a big boost, more exposure and excitement with general audiences before diving into his sequel. That could play a big factor, into building momentum for his second film.

I also think the delays benefits the Russos. They haven’t missed when it comes to comic book movies. Every one they’ve done has landed extremely well, from Winter Soldier to Endgame. With more time to work on Doomsday, I feel confident they’ll deliver at least a really good movie. Just how good it’ll be, we’ll have to see, but with the Russos returning, one of the original writers back, and everything I’ve heard so far, I believe they know what they’re doing. I'd bet money that it’s much better than Avengers Age Of Ultron, and is closer in quality to the catalog of the Russo brothers previous work.
 
Apparently, the delays did help improve Brave New World. Based on early test screenings and comments from people who saw those initial cuts, the finished film is reportedly a much better film than what was originally shown. Even if the end result now is considered just “okay,” or “serviceable”. It sounds like the earlier version was significantly worse, so there was clearly room for improvement, and it seems they made the most of that. Even though the movie could have been much better imo.

As for Shang-Chi 2, I’m confident we’ll get it, but it’ll likely come after Secret Wars. Having Shang-Chi appear in Avengers: Doomsday and Secret Wars should give his character a big boost, more exposure and excitement with general audiences before diving into his sequel. That could play a big factor, into building momentum for his second film.

I also think the delays benefits the Russos. They haven’t missed when it comes to comic book movies. Every one they’ve done has landed extremely well, from Winter Soldier to Endgame. With more time to work on Doomsday, I feel confident they’ll deliver at least a really good movie. Just how good it’ll be, we’ll have to see, but with the Russos returning, one of the original writers back, and everything I’ve heard so far, I believe they know what they’re doing. I'd bet money that it’s much better than Avengers Age Of Ultron, and is closer in quality to the catalog of the Russo brothers previous work.
What I meant by improve. Improved it to be a good film that wouldn't get so many negative reviews. Early screenings were bad based from reports. The movie came out after a 9 month delay, movie was still bad.

and yes Shang-Chi 2, should get a boost from Avengers (especially if the movies are well received). Its weird how they welcomed him to the circus, and it's taking years for the character's 2nd appearance.

For me, Age of Ultron is just the benchmark to surpass since its the worst Avengers movie to date but doesn't really suck as a movie, and I don't want to expect too much.
 

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