Infinity War Avengers: Infinity War SPOILER User Review Thread - Part 1

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[Spider-Fan]

Hey guys, this is going to be the official thread for discussing Avengers: Infinity War without worrying about spoiling anyone. In here, you can discuss spoilers to your liking. But, TAGS WILL BE REQUIRED IN ALL OTHER THREADS FOR SPOILERS!!!

Thread is closed until screening begin - Come back April 25th!

 

[The Riddler]

Apparently they wouldn't have been, if Strange only saw one timeline in which they won. (The one they are in now).

that doesn't make any sense. why try to go with the plan to remove the gauntlet if he knew they would be successful by just giving him the stone in the end anyway? the writing doesn't match up when you actually think about it.

 

[pxrple]

Thor is officially my fave OG Avenger, i was always switching between Cap & Tony but that scene he had with Rocket really had me tearing up . Hope we either get a Thor 4 or have him hang out with the guardians again in Gotg 3

 

[parkerpete]

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that doesn't make any sense. why try to go with the plan to remove the gauntlet if he knew they would be successful by just giving him the stone in the end anyway? the writing doesn't match up when you actually think about it.

Actually, Strange probably participated in the plan against Thanos because in that timeline it still required his help to prevent Thanos from killing Stark or Nebula at an earlier point during that fight (or also, killing one of the Guardians in a non-Guantlet way that couldn't be reversed).

It's convoluted but it's not that hard to write around. Also, if Strange didn't participate in the fight and simply handed over the time stone, Thanos would have known something was up... and once he had the stone, his suspicion could lead him to eventually examine all the timelines himself to see the one that Strange was working from.

 

[Tony Stark]

^ He saw the timeline where they removed the gauntlet and they still failed is the implication. The only timeline that succeeded is the one where he willingly gives the timestone.

 

[Ms. Marvel]

that doesn't make any sense. why try to go with the plan to remove the gauntlet if he knew they would be successful by just giving him the stone in the end anyway? the writing doesn't match up when you actually think about it.

Because when you see a potential timeline you want to preserve. You try to keep literally everything the same to avoid a butterfly effect.

 

[legendkillin]

Thor is officially my fave OG Avenger, i was always switching between Cap & Tony but that scene he had with Rocket really had me tearing up . Hope we either get a Thor 4 or have him hang out with the guardians again in Gotg 3

Cap is still my favorite, but I have always wanted more Thor movies than any of the other heroes.

 

[Kane52630]

Avengers: Infinity War

My god, they f***in did it. Marvel Studios was able to adapt a crossover event of this magnitude from the comics into live action and made it look almost easy. They definitely learned their mistakes from Age of Ultron. The movie hit the ground running as soon as the Marvel Studio logo goes dark. I do agree with some criticism about it being too much and too much referencing to other movies, because if you haven't seen all the movies, you might get lost. It's clearly a movie for the fans of the movies in the best way possible. I actually love the way this was paced, it's broken down pretty methodically and they were able to balance the comedy and drama pretty well. The stakes were high and for once in the MCU you felt constant dread whenever Thanos shows up. Josh Brolin is the MVP of the movie and almost everyone kinda felt secondary (which is obviously done on purpose). Seeing the interactions between other marvel characters was a lot of fun and it's what keeps this movie going. There's also a lot of fun Easter eggs and cameos that I never thought I'd see. I do have very minor nitpicks, but none of them kept me from loving this. It's a damn shame we will never see Darkseid in live action without having to compare him to Thanos. He stole the show and this Avengers movie is indeed the Empire Strikes Back of the MCU and these 12 months are going to be torture.
10/10

 

[harlequinade]

Please don't kill me for not adoring this.

This is what happens when you don't call Hawkeye.

A huge cinematic accomplishment, that's for sure. 17 - correct me if I'm wrong - movies prior to it. So this makes that movie a spectacle and a 'finale' moment. However....it's not really a grand finale at all. It's just something that needed to happen...for finale to occur. Next year.

PROS:
- they Alien3-ed Ragnarok. That opening was shockingly bold. Hiddleston was brilliant and he will be missed in those films.
- every single joke in the movie landed which was delightful because I always feel so embarrassed when something was meant to make the audience laugh and didn't. Huge, huge laughs from the crowd. Personally my favorites were Thor referring to Rocket as 'rabbit' and Cap's pure and adorable "I am Steve Rogers".
- there were really so many funny lines here and the funny/dark tones mixing didn't feel jarring at all
- fantastic interactions between the characters and lovely chemistry, especially Thor and Rocket and Tony and Strange. It was so much fun watching all these characters interact. So many moments which will make this movie so rewatchable - Strange appearing and Tony asking if he is there to sell tickets, Drax "invisible" scene, Bucky and Rocket during the battle...it was so entertaining.
- the film was very well paced. I was a bit bored at times but not "150 mins long movie" bored. I didn't feel that run time.
- it's impressive that they managed to bring back Red Skull and managed to fit in Pepper
- Okoye FTW
- Doctor Strange was about 1000x cooler here than in his own movie
- every single actor is wonderful here. The standout is definitely Tom Holland but Robert Downey Jr. comes pretty damn close perfectly balancing out funny moments and excruciating ones.
- Chris Hemsworth really gets to shine
- It was great for MCU to finally give more to do for Wanda
- Zoe Saldana was brilliant
- Josh Brolin is great and Thanos is the best MCU villain yet but of course there is little competition. Still, with all the motivation they give him he is still a bit underwritten to me and he still comes off as a mad villain and not some complex character. Of all the beings in this universe what makes him so special that he is the only one who has the will to do this?
- I did not cry but that Spiderman/IronMan scene near the end came very close
- the film really did feel very grand and there were few very brave scenes - the whole opening was honestly shocking. The scene with Thanos and young Gomora near the end was very profound and the very last scene was a brave choice
- my favorite action scene was the attack near Sanctum with Ebony Mew and Tony and Strange fighting him, you really felt the dread
- the end credits, all white on black and the title disappearing were awesome
- the post credits scene was fantastic and definitely gets me hyped for what is to come but as someone who only watches these films and doesn't follow the comics had I not read about this scene before watching the movie I'd have no idea who they are referring to

CONS:
- the special effects of people turning into dust were horrendous. When Bucky started disappearing I was hoping it will get better but nope. Also the way the scene was handled....maybe it was too fast, I didn't think the gravity of it was felt. It was felt more in the post credits scene. Perhaps if we actually saw a montage of people all over the planet disappearing it would better. Star-Lord quipping didn't help. It was just terribly executed. I cry during everything and here I was just so puzzled about how BAD it looked that it kept me from being emotional
- what is shocking to me is how shocked people are about that ending. This isn't the last movie. Also some of those who died in the awful dust CGI have sequels announced. Why are people shocked? The next one where some if not all of original Avengers inevitably die a noble death to reverse what happened is gonna be shocking and emotional, not this
- Look, I like these films. I do. But for movies with budgets this huge they are really missing amazing, "wow!" shots. There was nothing in this movie that was a visual so amazing you were in awe.
- there are comparisons to Fury Road being made online and I just...no. Doctor Strange does cool stuff and it's fun watching characters fight side by side but on visual level/action movie scale there was nothing particularly memorable here. That Wakanda scene where some alien creatures are charging at them? Oh give me a break.
- Think about that - Winter Soldier has that elevator fight and the highway fight. Civil War has airport fight with tons of cool stuff. Avengers has stuff like Natasha jumping off Cap's shield. Not one single breathtaking action set piece here. It's cool these characters are fighting together but visually it just didn't look good.
- Thor's scenes are massively overhyped. Bridge scene in Ragnarok was better
- Cap's team has so little to do, Widow is almost laughably underused in that she doesn't do or say much BUT of course they have her in a cat fight with Promixa Midnight
- The running joke of Bruce not being able to hulk out was so cringy
- Missing trailer shots which for the love of God, were better than what was in the movie. The most epic shot of Wakanda battle (heroes running) was not in the movie. Thor rising his hand obviously with edited out Stormbreaker with Rocket and Groot watching in awe was not in the movie. Cap's "let's go" not in the movie. I appreciate all the stuff they did to surprise people but when the trailer is more epic than the actual film.....that ain't good.
- I'm not sure the situation where people say Strange is stupid because he gave up the stone to save Tony is what writers intended for people to think, because good lord they do. It's very clear to me that he is giving it up because in one outcome he saw them win Tony was alive but that's not really signaled well, whereas other stuff like the second gauntlet or at least a form to make one is telegraphed. In fact it's like that whole trip was just for the audience to see THAT and see how powerful Thor is. My bet is that they are gonna go back in time and try to assembly the stones before Thanos and I bet Thor is powerful enough to wear that gauntlet

 

[DalekbusterFitz]

- the post credits scene was fantastic and definitely gets me hyped for what is to come but as someone who only watches these films and doesn't follow the comics had I not read about this scene before watching the movie I'd have no idea who they are referring to

A rather Marvel-ous woman known as Captain Marvel.

 

[harlequinade]

I know that because I'm spoiler-junkie But otherwise I'd have to google the meaning

 

[kguillou]

You gotta love how they had Sam Jackson go "Motha -F---" They just couldn't help themselves.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Just saw it and it was so...fraking..good!

Loki can't be dead right? Like he wouldn't get killed off so quickly and nonchalantly right?

They did such a great job making Thanos into his own character instead of a villain with no personality that is just there to give the heroes someone to fight (Steppenwolf). Yeah he is an awful being but I actually felt somewhat for him, his and Gamoras whole relationship was heartbreaking.

 

[MarvelRudi]

I wonder how they will handle the humour in avengers 4?

 

[kguillou]

Man, I don't know if I can go back to watching the Whedon movies (especially AoU) after watching this. The Russos just master tone juggling way better than he ever did. The Russos can bring humor in one scene and tremendously heavy gravitas two minutes later without punctuating it with a quip.

 

[InvisibleWoman]

Please don't kill me for not adoring this.

This is what happens when you don't call Hawkeye.

A huge cinematic accomplishment, that's for sure. 17 - correct me if I'm wrong - movies prior to it. So this makes that movie a spectacle and a 'finale' moment. However....it's not really a grand finale at all. It's just something that needed to happen...for finale to occur. Next year.

PROS:
- they Alien3-ed Ragnarok. That opening was shockingly bold. Hiddleston was brilliant and he will be missed in those films.
- every single joke in the movie landed which was delightful because I always feel so embarrassed when something was meant to make the audience laugh and didn't. Huge, huge laughs from the crowd. Personally my favorites were Thor referring to Rocket as 'rabbit' and Cap's pure and adorable "I am Steve Rogers".
- there were really so many funny lines here and the funny/dark tones mixing didn't feel jarring at all
- fantastic interactions between the characters and lovely chemistry, especially Thor and Rocket and Tony and Strange. It was so much fun watching all these characters interact. So many moments which will make this movie so rewatchable - Strange appearing and Tony asking if he is there to sell tickets, Drax "invisible" scene, Bucky and Rocket during the battle...it was so entertaining.
- the film was very well paced. I was a bit bored at times but not "150 mins long movie" bored. I didn't feel that run time.
- it's impressive that they managed to bring back Red Skull and managed to fit in Pepper
- Okoye FTW
- Doctor Strange was about 1000x cooler here than in his own movie
- every single actor is wonderful here. The standout is definitely Tom Holland but Robert Downey Jr. comes pretty damn close perfectly balancing out funny moments and excruciating ones.
- Chris Hemsworth really gets to shine
- It was great for MCU to finally give more to do for Wanda
- Zoe Saldana was brilliant
- Josh Brolin is great and Thanos is the best MCU villain yet but of course there is little competition. Still, with all the motivation they give him he is still a bit underwritten to me and he still comes off as a mad villain and not some complex character. Of all the beings in this universe what makes him so special that he is the only one who has the will to do this?
- I did not cry but that Spiderman/IronMan scene near the end came very close
- the film really did feel very grand and there were few very brave scenes - the whole opening was honestly shocking. The scene with Thanos and young Gomora near the end was very profound and the very last scene was a brave choice
- my favorite action scene was the attack near Sanctum with Ebony Mew and Tony and Strange fighting him, you really felt the dread
- the end credits, all white on black and the title disappearing were awesome
- the post credits scene was fantastic and definitely gets me hyped for what is to come but as someone who only watches these films and doesn't follow the comics had I not read about this scene before watching the movie I'd have no idea who they are referring to

CONS:
- the special effects of people turning into dust were horrendous. When Bucky started disappearing I was hoping it will get better but nope. Also the way the scene was handled....maybe it was too fast, I didn't think the gravity of it was felt. It was felt more in the post credits scene. Perhaps if we actually saw a montage of people all over the planet disappearing it would better. Star-Lord quipping didn't help. It was just terribly executed. I cry during everything and here I was just so puzzled about how BAD it looked that it kept me from being emotional
- what is shocking to me is how shocked people are about that ending. This isn't the last movie. Also some of those who died in the awful dust CGI have sequels announced. Why are people shocked? The next one where some if not all of original Avengers inevitably die a noble death to reverse what happened is gonna be shocking and emotional, not this
- Look, I like these films. I do. But for movies with budgets this huge they are really missing amazing, "wow!" shots. There was nothing in this movie that was a visual so amazing you were in awe.
- there are comparisons to Fury Road being made online and I just...no. Doctor Strange does cool stuff and it's fun watching characters fight side by side but on visual level/action movie scale there was nothing particularly memorable here. That Wakanda scene where some alien creatures are charging at them? Oh give me a break.
- Think about that - Winter Soldier has that elevator fight and the highway fight. Civil War has airport fight with tons of cool stuff. Avengers has stuff like Natasha jumping off Cap's shield. Not one single breathtaking action set piece here. It's cool these characters are fighting together but visually it just didn't look good.
- Thor's scenes are massively overhyped. Bridge scene in Ragnarok was better
- Cap's team has so little to do, Widow is almost laughably underused in that she doesn't do or say much BUT of course they have her in a cat fight with Promixa Midnight
- The running joke of Bruce not being able to hulk out was so cringy
- Missing trailer shots which for the love of God, were better than what was in the movie. The most epic shot of Wakanda battle (heroes running) was not in the movie. Thor rising his hand obviously with edited out Stormbreaker with Rocket and Groot watching in awe was not in the movie. Cap's "let's go" not in the movie. I appreciate all the stuff they did to surprise people but when the trailer is more epic than the actual film.....that ain't good.
- I'm not sure the situation where people say Strange is stupid because he gave up the stone to save Tony is what writers intended for people to think, because good lord they do. It's very clear to me that he is giving it up because in one outcome he saw them win Tony was alive but that's not really signaled well, whereas other stuff like the second gauntlet or at least a form to make one is telegraphed. In fact it's like that whole trip was just for the audience to see THAT and see how powerful Thor is. My bet is that they are gonna go back in time and try to assembly the stones before Thanos and I bet Thor is powerful enough to wear that gauntlet

Nice review. Very thorough. I don't agree with your criticism of the action scenes though. I think there were some of the best action sequences I've ever seen in a CBM. Just because they didn't have gimmicky moments like someone jumping on Cap's shield didn't make them any less amazing. The Edinburgh fight scene was flawless. I particularly liked it before Cap & Co showed up. The Wakanda and Titan battles were some of the biggest and most complex action scenes ever seen in a CBM. Like the bit where Thanos throws a moon at Iron Man... that was a stunning visual.

However, of course life would be boring if we all agreed lol. One woman's vanilla is another woman's chocolate fudge sundae.

 

[JIVE]

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Actually, Strange probably participated in the plan against Thanos because in that timeline it still required his help to prevent Thanos from killing Stark or Nebula at an earlier point during that fight (or also, killing one of the Guardians in a non-Guantlet way that couldn't be reversed).

It's convoluted but it's not that hard to write around. Also, if Strange didn't participate in the fight and simply handed over the time stone, Thanos would have known something was up... and once he had the stone, his suspicion could lead him to eventually examine all the timelines himself to see the one that Strange was working from.

Completely agree. Strange would naturally follow the events the way he saw it in his vision where they succeeded, up until the point in which he parishes. I am curious whether or not Strange tampered with the Time Stone, and also curious if everyone who perished are now in Soul World. Perhaps Strange has a way of communicating with Tony, explaining the remainder of the future that works. I suspect the quantum realm in Ant Man and the Wasp will lead to the Avengers victory through time travel and the multi-verse, combined with the strength of Captain Marvel.

 

[DaddlerTheDalek]

I saw it today... Holy. ****ing. ****! Epic and Shocking!!!

 

[The Riddler]

^ He saw the timeline where they removed the gauntlet and they still failed is the implication. The only timeline that succeeded is the one where he willingly gives the timestone.

why not give the timestone up earlier then, is my point.

 

[Tony Stark]

Man, I don't know if I can go back to watching the Whedon movies (especially AoU) after watching this. The Russos just master tone juggling way better than he ever did. The Russos can bring humor in one scene and tremendously heavy gravitas two minutes later without punctuating it with a quip.

I really like AoU, but Whedon does have a bad habit of putting his stamp on everything. However as far as a classic Avengers storyline, I liked the plot of the film. Obviously comparing to IW, well, there is no comparison, IW is a thrilling and haunting film that people will be talking about for decades from now.

 

[PacificBoy]

why not give the timestone up earlier then, is my point.

The way I saw it, Tony was pivotal in the one timeline which they succeeded, so he must be kept alive at all costs, even at the cost of the time stone.

 

[Tony Stark]

why not give the timestone up earlier then, is my point.

The answer is that was a failed timeline. What you saw is the only timeline that worked. Maybe in another timeline he tried giving it to Thanos and then Quill kills Strange for it and Thanos kills Stark and everyone else and still gets the stone. The timeline in the film is the 1 in 14 million timelines that "worked".

 

[The Big G]

Choose your ending: Empire Strikes Back or Infinity War?

 

[JIVE]

why not give the timestone up earlier then, is my point.

Thanos would know something strange was going on if Strange gave him the stone without putting up a fight. He needed it to look as if it was a last resort - which, he would have been shown in the vision.