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This is a continuation thread, the old thread is [split]541551[/split]
This is nitpicking at its worst.
In response to someone in previous thread, no, Pepper and Tony aren't married yet. Tony invites Wong to the wedding.
Ah yes youre correct.
I guess Strange meant, congratulations on being Engaged.
Or I misheard.
Folks just can't enjoy nice things.
Is Tony going to get his wedding to Pepper or will it be a funeral instead that everyone is attending?
In any event, there's likely to be some kind of funeral at the end of A4.
I don't see Tony having Vision (who was JARVIS before) with him at his wedding. He was with Tony since 2008.
My opinion on how it'll play out:
Tony and Steve reconcile. Tony tells Steve he's getting married. After a battle that not only almost kills them, but brings them closer, Tony offers Steve the role of Best Man. Fast forward to the 3rd Act, Steve sacrifices himself to save Tony and many others, but before he does, tells Tony he won't be able to fulfill his duties as Best Man. Steve dies. The movie ends with a memorial for Steve, and a big beautiful wedding for Tony and Pepper, with a pic of Cap and his shield standing where the Best Man wouldve stood.
My opinion on how it'll play out:
Tony and Steve reconcile. Tony tells Steve he's getting married. After a battle that not only almost kills them, but brings them closer, Tony offers Steve the role of Best Man. Fast forward to the 3rd Act, Steve sacrifices himself to save Tony and many others, but before he does, tells Tony he won't be able to fulfill his duties as Best Man. Steve dies. The movie ends with a memorial for Steve, and a big beautiful wedding for Tony and Pepper, with a pic of Cap and his shield standing where the Best Man wouldve stood.
The women were front and center. No one was "fridged". Stop it ya'll.
Fridging doesn't require a female character's only role being dying to motivate a male hero's anger and desire for revenge. If that's what the character is used for at some point in the story, even if she has other uses within the story, then it fits the definition of the phrase.
My opinion on how it'll play out:
Tony and Steve reconcile. Tony tells Steve he's getting married. After a battle that not only almost kills them, but brings them closer, Tony offers Steve the role of Best Man. Fast forward to the 3rd Act, Steve sacrifices himself to save Tony and many others, but before he does, tells Tony he won't be able to fulfill his duties as Best Man. Steve dies. The movie ends with a memorial for Steve, and a big beautiful wedding for Tony and Pepper, with a pic of Cap and his shield standing where the Best Man wouldve stood.
Fridging doesn't require a female character's only role being dying to motivate a male hero's anger and desire for revenge. If that's what the character is used for at some point in the story, even if she has other uses within the story, then it fits the definition of the phrase.
He didn't just look sad once. Mantis alluded that he was grieving when she had him under and after the snap, he told the child Gamora that his plan cost him everything. He was clearly mourning the entire time.
You realize this is a 2 part movie, correct?
Further on your above post, Thanos says he regrets it...and was openly SOBBING when he did it. Call me crazy, but I think people when they cry and showing sadness. In this instance, sadness for what he was about to lose. This is then followed by a look of shock/denial once the deed is done.
Also, why do you think he was not answering Nebula during the fight? To spare her, or to spare admitting what he did to himself?
Saying that Thanos briefly looked sad is outright incorrect though. In the thick of intense battle, Mantis gets hold of him, subdues him and is rocked back by his intense emotions, which she identifies as grief. Then we have Thanos in an interior moment after the snap being confronted by the ghost of his conscience, a simulacrum of little Gamora within the soul realm where he articulates the cost of his actions.
I once got into a debate where you literally argued the merits of "briefly looking sad" in a movie and how effective you felt that actually was.
That's not true in the slightest. For a character to be fridged their only role in the story is to be attacked an/or die for the sole reason to motivate a character. If that was the case then almost every character in this movie was fridged.
At the very end of the film, when Thanos snapped his fingers, the characters we saw die were all loved by someone left behind. They were halves of pairs, for the most part. The first was Bucky, whose death left Steve bereft and lost. Wanda followed the Vision into death. Rocket was left to mourn Groot, again. Tony had to hold Peter in his arms as he turned to ash. Surely the themes of loss and sacrifice were woven through IW for a reason and will carry over into Avengers 4.
But from an execution standpoint thats just her saying hes sad. It's also somewhat redundant, because we already know he was sad about it. Im aware that he was sad, and that the movie said he was sad and that a character says he is sad, and that he has a weird vision of little Gamora that indicates that he is sad.
I didn't consider that an effective portrayal of the issues at hand that were introduced, or a satisfying resolution. Dont know what to tell you.
this would be nice.