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Many sites are reporting that instead of Loki like many people thought it would be, The Avengers would be going up against the Skrulls. This hasn't been confirmed by Marvel, but by inside sources.

http://movies.ign.com/articles/109/1091649p1.html

http://screenrant.com/avengers-movie-villains-skrulls-rob-61051/

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Poniverse/news/?a=18337

The Avengers Will Face the Skrulls in 2012

Several insider reports have revealed who may be the actual villains in The Avengers movie(s); and why Marvel Studios doesn't need to chase down character rights.

It's been assumed for several years now that Marvel Studios ensemble film The Avengers will follow the continuity of the original comics run; where Loki gains control over the Hulk to unleash his fury on Earth, which causes the superhero team to assemble for the first time. Last night I learned that this may not be the case, and apparently I'm not the only one who's privy to this information. Two fellow entertainment journalists, one being our own DCMarvel_Freshman, were tipped to this information around the same time as I was; and by two other sources close to the production.

The highlight of this insider scoop (DISCLAIMER: which has not been confirmed by the studio itself) is that the shape-changing alien race the Skrulls are being used as the main antagonists for The Avengers. Not only that, but the Skrulls will 'brainwash' and use the Hulk in a similar fashion Loki did in the comics. Don't expect a full on alien invasion, though; that will have to wait for a sequel. The Skrulls' role will be largely clandestine, similar to the way S.H.I.E.L.D. operates.

For those of you wondering who the Skrulls are, here's a brief synopsis courtesy of Marvel: 'The Skrulls are an extraterrestrial humanoid race who have created a vast interstellar empire, the oldest known empire still in existence, within the Andromeda Galaxy.. A Skrull can mentally cause the unstable molecules that comprise his or her body to become pliant, enabling him or her to assume other forms through muscular expansion and contraction. Once a new shape has been assumed (human, animal, alien), it takes a conscious act of will to assume another form or revert to natural.. Although the Skrulls became aware of Earth (due to its nearness to a natural warp-space access point) eons ago, it was not until recent times that they considered Earth’s threat. Their first regular surveillances of Earth began in the 1930s. To date most of the Skrulls’ excursions to Earth have been extremely small-scale, with no more than a handful of soldier-infiltrators being dispatched at any given time. It is not yet known how the death of the current ruling family will affect official policy toward Earth or the government of the empire in general. '


Apparently, the Skrulls won't be the only alien race to be introduced in The Avengers; their enemy, the Kree, will also have a presence as Earthly allies. This isn't surprising information, considering a young actor by the name of Kevin Pennington has been rumored to portray a character by the name of Noh-Varr; who just so happens to be a Kree. Though I couldn't get confirmation that Noh-Varr is Pennington's role, at his point, all signs are pointing to 'yes.'

That's not all, True Believers, the last bit of information I managed to talk to this source about was regarding comic character film rights, and how Marvel Studios is planning on bringing fan-favorites like Spider-Man, Wolverine and the Fantastic Four back under their umbrella. It seems like the opposite it true. Marvel has no intention of working out deals with neither Fox nor Sony in an effort to use the characters (including the ones mentioned above) in future Marvel Studios projects. Instead, they will simply, "pretend they don't exist in the Marvel Cinema Universe until those companies inevitably grow tired of them."

How on Earth will those studios grow tired of characters that offer them tent pole film franchise opportunities? It may not take as long as expected; after all, there are only so many times you can 'reboot' a character before the general movie going public looses interest. Though it may take another decade or so, that seems to be an acceptable wait for Marvel to bring their heroes home.

I would totally be up for it if they went this route.
 
LOL, Kevin Pennington is a poster on the Hype. . .
 
I also read an editorial on CBM. It was pretty good.

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/CookiepussProduction/news/?a=18356

EDITORIAL: Why The Skrulls Make Perfect Sense For "The Avengers" Villains

.....Here are reasons why The Skrulls are great choices to fight against The Avengers in 2012.

1. The Avengers will need to be very large scale, to be fair, it would be anyway with just the brilliant talent involved and the characters, but like all comic book films, the villains need to have something to make them superior to the heroes. The problem with Loki is that he is just one man going against a team of superheroes who are fairly powerful, and while Loki is a god, he still does not possess enough power to even defeat Thor. Then again, even when Loki is brainwashing The Hulk to go against The Avengers, it still would not be a strong enough plot device. You cant honestly suggest The Hulk being manipulated by Loki would be able to carry the film, can you? The Skrulls are aliens who are more then one being and can easily be made to be real threats towards The Avengers.

2. Joss Whedon does well with directing sci-fi films, like "Serenity", which has generated a lot of the positive influences everyone has on him directing The Avengers. Adding The Skrulls into the film under Whedon's direction is no doubt going to be flawless.

3. It makes sense to the overall story, so far all we know is that Nick Fury is forming The Avengers. We know absolutely NOTHING as to why Fury is forming The Avengers and The Skrulls would be a perfect and meaningful explanation. Popular beleif had been that Fury is forming them to take on The Hulk, and while that may be partly true, forming a team with heavy hitters like Tony Stark, The First Avenger and A God just seems a bit over the top to defeat The Hulk. Really, if this was the case, Fury could just contact Thor and that could probably be the end of it. Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D assumingly know about everything going on in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and with something as big as an alien occurance anticipated, it would make sense to gather some of the earth's mightiest heroes to tackle them.

4. The inclusion of The Skrulls could potentially add a lot more drama, considering that they can shape shift, and *supposively* they can change themselves to look like other humans and beings which means they could easily take on the form of say Nick Fury, Agent Coulson and any S.H.I.E.L.D agent. Hell, they could even make themselves to look like any member of The Avengers.

5. Marvel is now well known to add easter eggs and hints to other superheroes or anything occuring in the Marvel films, and with the idea that The Mandarin could be in Iron Man 3, The Skrulls could set him up very nicely. That is, if Marvel decides to go the comic book route with The Mandarin and have his rings being of alien technology.

6. It may mean nothing at all, but The Skrulls had played a part in the Ultimate Avengers 2 animated movie and because of this, Marvel may have felt they would be the easiest villains to recognise in the film to non-comic book readers...

Those are just some specific points that I felt should be noted for the possibility of The Skrulls being The Avengers villains, and I hope you all agree with these points!
 
Loki is like the Avengers film's Brainiac-- a terrible idea that only fanboys want.

I always viewed the Skrull as a Fantastic Four villain first and an Avengers villain second.

The Skrull will require a far reaching conspiracy of infiltration-- that is their power. It could be awesome, or it could be a massive fail.

I was thinking they would use an individual character who could fight the Avengers.
 
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Loki is like the Avengers film's Brainiac-- a terrible idea that only fanboys want.

I always viewed the Skrull as a Fantastic Four villain first and an Avengers villain second.

The Skrull will require a far reaching conspiracy of infiltration-- that is their power. It could be awesome, or it could be a massive fail.

I was thinking they would use an individual character who could fight the Avengers.


Wait, why is Brainiac a terrible idea? After 4 movies with Lex Luthor and 1 with a Lex Luthor rip off, Brainiac would be a great addition.
 
FF are a big part of the mythos and the Skrull War and Marvel has no intentions of bringing them back in? Stupidest logic ever. And if there is no alien invasion, I am wondering if Hulk will be the main villain in the movie???
 
Loki is like the Avengers film's Brainiac-- a terrible idea that only fanboys want.

I always viewed the Skrull as a Fantastic Four villain first and an Avengers villain second.

The Skrull will require a far reaching conspiracy of infiltration-- that is their power. It could be awesome, or it could be a massive fail.

I was thinking they would use an individual character who could fight the Avengers.

Loki is far from a terrible idea.
 
Wait, why is Brainiac a terrible idea? After 4 movies with Lex Luthor and 1 with a Lex Luthor rip off, Brainiac would be a great addition.

It's a weak character, boring design, ridiculous name, and Superman has a number of villains that are the most powerful characters in comics which would be more interesting on film: Darkseid, Kalibak, Doomsday, etc.
 
I know alot of people who hate the Ultimate Universe will be mad at this decision as this seems to be the plot of Ultimate Avengers, but you know I'd like this over Loki.
 
I know alot of people who hate the Ultimate Universe will be mad at this decision as this seems to be the plot of Ultimate Avengers, but you know I'd like this over Loki.

Yeah, I'm one of those guys. I hate the Ultimate Universe. I also think this is an AWFUL idea. It's the whole concept of aliens that loses it for me. The reason why Iron Man took off is that they based the story around character and tried to tie it to reality. Having a god of thunder and a giant green man-monster will be tough enough to ground without throwing in a swarm of shape-shifting aliens. Will that simply be too over the top for general audiences? I guess they made bagillions with a dumb story and giant blue aliens with Avatar so who knows any more? It seems like we have to get on board with Skrulls and not whine about it until we see what transpires.

I trust Marvel and Whedon but I really worry about this project with this news.
 
It's a weak character, boring design, ridiculous name, and Superman has a number of villains that are the most powerful characters in comics which would be more interesting on film: Darkseid, Kalibak, Doomsday, etc.

And how does that apply to Loki, one of marvel's finest villains?
 
I don't really think this provides for very dynamic villainy.

I, for one, would like human villains with human motivations and human emotions. Give us one dynamic villain, please.
 
Yeah, I'm one of those guys. I hate the Ultimate Universe. I also think this is an AWFUL idea. It's the whole concept of aliens that loses it for me. The reason why Iron Man took off is that they based the story around character and tried to tie it to reality. Having a god of thunder and a giant green man-monster will be tough enough to ground without throwing in a swarm of shape-shifting aliens. Will that simply be too over the top for general audiences? I guess they made bagillions with a dumb story and giant blue aliens with Avatar so who knows any more? It seems like we have to get on board with Skrulls and not whine about it until we see what transpires.

I trust Marvel and Whedon but I really worry about this project with this news.

I never wanted this to be tied to reality; this isn't Nolan Batman, this is the Avengers. It's science fiction/ superhero film.

This sounds to me like it will be a half Ultimates half 616 story. Kree Skrull War plus Ultimates alien invasion. I'm more concerned with the fact that they want this to be a multiple film arc instead of exploring more interesting characters like Kang and Ultron.
 
I like this idea a lot.

I never cared for the idea of having Loki be the enemy and controlling the Hulk. I know it's accurate to the old comics but Loki is already going to be the villian in Thor and this way we can hopefully see Hulk fight along side the Avengers as opposed to fighting against them.
 
Wtf? Did he really just say Loki would be a terrible Fanboy decision???

Loki is a Fantastic villan... He is Othello's Iago but a Sorceror/Strategist/Manipulator... loki is a Genuis and would be the perfect villan for the job... one man outwitting some of the strongests hero's in the world.. how does that sound terrible?:huh:
 
If this is true, my optimism for the film just made a bee-line for the exit.

This is ultra CHEESE. IMO the "general" audience (no, not your comic purists) will laugh at this concept.
 
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I'd prefer to keep them for the mooted FF reboot.

If they wanna Go with The Invading alien race thing, I say go with The Kree.
 
If this is true, my optimism for the film just made a bee-line for the exit.

This is ultra CHEESE. IMO the "general" audience (not not your comic purists) will laugh at this concept.

It depends on how they do it. If the aliens are more Star Trek than they are Star Wars or MIB, the cheese factor may not be an issue at all. Could be something like the movie Invasion with Craig and Kidman, as bad as that was. I am not an expert on the mythos so I can't tell you if it will translate well in live action, and they made it clear it at least won't be another Independence Day. It's still an issue though, why de-thaw Cap if you aren't even using a remotely connected villain? "Hey folks, time to bring back Cap because he can save us from the Skrulls..." not gonna work.
 
It depends on how they do it. If the aliens are more Star Trek than they are Star Wars or MIB, the cheese factor may not be an issue at all. Could be something like the movie Invasion with Craig and Kidman, as bad as that was. I am not an expert on the mythos so I can't tell you if it will translate well in live action, and they made it clear it at least won't be another Independence Day. It's still an issue though, why de-thaw Cap if you aren't even using a remotely connected villain? "Hey folks, time to bring back Cap because he can save us from the Skrulls..." not gonna work.
Unless they go the ultimates route and it turns out some of the Nazi are Skrulls :(
 
It's still an issue though, why de-thaw Cap if you aren't even using a remotely connected villain?
When you find the perfectly preserved body of Captain America frozen in ice, your first thought is not "Are any of his old enemies still active? If not, we might as well leave him frozen"
 
Fine... you are studying the body, reintegrating him to modern times, now go out there and kick ass against aliens? I am not saying everything has to make sense in a CB movie, but I would think the government would want to secure their investment before throwing him out there. I just think with the groundwork from IM and Hulk, audiences will have a tough time buying an intergalactic war far out there somewhere. I know Wheldon won't go crazy with it, but just the premise is sketchy this early. Before you throw Norse Gods at me, we haven't seen Thor yet. There may be a plausible, or scientific explanation they come up with for heavenly realms. Look it how Rowling handled it with HP. I doubt it will be as far fetched as that per say.
 
I would personally prefer the Skrulls appear in the Fantastic Four remake and have the villains in the Avengers be Dr. Doom and Kang.

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Did someone say something about shapeshifting aliens?

Whether the Skrulls appear in Avengers or Fantastic Four (or both, like a talent trade), the storyline has the opportunity to be the greatest conspiracy theory ever told or a complete joke depending on their execution. It could be like the Twilight Zone or it could come off as Spiderman 3.

The Skrull are a story of infiltration rather than invasion. It's a story that could be really eerie and go to some dark places.
 
That's what I am thinking. The Skrulls will be very human like those 5th Element guys in human bodies (only with a brain), or the MIB aliens in transports and disguises, and they will prep for the invasion. If that is the case, good. But I still say it is too early for a full blown invasion in a sequel. Maybe by part 3. I am also wondering who the actual threats will be, outside of a brainwashed Hulk. Are they just going to brain wash existing heroes and villains? Use them as pawns? It works just as well as HYDRA, but where will the threat in THIS movie come from?
 
What if The Skrulls make a deal with Loki? I don't know, I'm happy with either.
 

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