Batman Begins Best Origin Movie ever ?

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The Best Super hero Origin Movie ?

  1. Batman Begins

  2. Captain America

  3. Iron Man

  4. Spider Man

  5. Superman The Movie

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  1. Tacit Ronin

    Tacit Ronin Well-Known Member

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    One wonders if Man of Steel will blow it out of the water.
     
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  2. TheGuy

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    1. Iron Man
    2. Batman Begins
    3. Firs Class
    4. Captain America
    5. Spider-Man
    6. Superman
     
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  3. TheGuy

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    If B89 is considered an origin, it's my #1.
     
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  4. Picard Sisko

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    Judging simply as origin films, I'd say:

    1. Spider-Man
    2. Batman Begins
    3. Iron Man
    4. Superman
    5. Captain America: The First Avenger
    6. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
    7. Hulk
    8. The Punisher
    9. Catwoman
    10. Fantastic Four
    11. Ghost Rider
     
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  5. TheGuy

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    I forgot Thor.

    1. B89
    2. Iron Man
    3. Batman Begins
    4. Captain America
    5. Thor
    6. Spider-Man
    7. Superman

    FF, GL, and some others don't deserved to be ranked.
     
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  6. The Caped Knight

    The Caped Knight Shield Avenger

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    1. Batman Begins - Nolan
    2. Superman - Donner
    3. Spider-Man - Raimi
    4. Iron Man - Favreau
    5. Captain America -Johnston
    6. X-men - Singer
    7. Thor - Branagh
     
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  7. Brain Damage

    Brain Damage Everything Under the Sun

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    Off the top of my head, I'd say:

    1. Batman Begins
    2. Iron Man
    3. Superman
    4. The Punisher
    5. Spider-Man
    6. X-Men
    7. Thor
    8. Captain America


    Captain America would be higher, as I thought the origin was done nearly perfectly, but the last third of the film is pretty weak.
     
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  8. the last son

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    Are we doing best first movie or origins. Is x-men really a origin movie. Or Thor?

    Best origin where the hero became the hero in order.

    Begins
    Spiderman
    Superman
    Iron Man
    Captain America
    Punisher
     
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  9. BH/HHH

    BH/HHH You Are My World

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    Man of Steel, oh wait it isn't out yet :oldrazz:

    It will :cwink:
     
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  10. The Joker

    The Joker The Clown Prince of Crime

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    Is Batman 1989 an origin movie?
     
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  11. ThePhantasm

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    No. I don't consider it to be one.

    Given that Keaton was wanting "Forever" to tell Batman's origin story, I don't think he and Burton considered 89 an origin story either.
     
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  12. BH/HHH

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    Yeah I'd agree with that, Incredible Hulk falls I to that category aswell
     
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  13. Anno_Domini

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    It's a toss up to this day between Batman Begins and Iron Man. While Batman Begins started an absolutely amazing and breathtaking trilogy, it also broke some rules with the CBMs we saw beforehand that had a very philosophical tone to it, but Iron Man is a great standalone origin since Iron Man 2 was such a bad apple and doesn't follow the stride from its origin film at all.

    And then the list would continue with Spider-Man, Superman: The Movie and Captain America: The First Avenger to round the top five origins.
     
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  14. TheGuy

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    I consider it one. The arguments presented for it are strong. The structure is just different from BB, IM, SM, and STM.
     
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  15. Zatanna

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    What are the arguments presented for it being an origin story? I certainly don't consider it one either.
     
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  16. TheGuy

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    From page 7
     
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  17. Zatanna

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    I see. I didn't go back that far.

    But I'll just say I disagree that it's an origin film and leave it at that.
     
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  18. soundofyousick

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    Yeah, Batman89 is not an origin movie, if the term is to mean anything. It does not explore enough of his origins to qualify, we do not see why he does not use a gun, how he came to be such a good fighter, where he got his gadgets from, why he chose the motif of the bat. We get the reason why he chose to fight crime, but absolutely no reasoning as to why he chose to fight it in such an unusual manner, which is actually the most interesting part of the origin of course.
     
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  19. The Joker

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    Yeah, showing a flashback to Bruce's parents being killed doesn't make it an origin movie. If it did, then a million Batman comics are origin stories lol.
     
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  20. BH/HHH

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    :up: ain't that the truth

    Batman '89 is what I would call a rookie Batman film
     
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  21. Anno_Domini

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    Doesn't Batman Forever show a flashback?

    Maybe that's an origin film too.
     
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  22. BH/HHH

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    Yeah and Superman Returns and Spider-man 3 :oldrazz:
     
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  23. TheGuy

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    That's not the point. lol. B89 followed Batman's first months in crime fighting and ended with him being recognized by the city, just like in BB. So in some ways it's an origin, with the training skipped.
     
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  24. soundofyousick

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    No it's not, not if the term is to mean anything. When they show the murder of his parents, well, that could have come out of any old 'man becomes a cop/vigilante' movie, what needs to be shown in a *Batman* movie, is how exactly he came to choose that manner of crimefighting.
    Showing the hero's origin has always generally meant how he got to that highly unusual point of gaining superpowers and coming to terms with them/deciding to become a vigilante/sh, or training and taking up a motif in Batman's case.
    What you are talking about is showing his first adventures.
     
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  25. The Joker

    The Joker The Clown Prince of Crime

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    That is the point. Just because it's set in Batman's early days doesn't make it an origin story. An origin story documents how the hero in question came to be a hero. In Batman's case the training, the choosing the image of a bat etc is all part and parcel of that.

    When Batman 1989 starts, Batman's been in Gotham for around a month or so already according to Knox. Burton completely skipped over the origin. The only reason they even flash backed to his parents being killed is because it was connected to the Joker. That was a last minute addition Burton put in during the writers strike.
     
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