Batman is still the most profitable solo superhero ever

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DC COMICS EXTENDED UNIVERSE

est. $6.48 billion

•Box office – $5.276 billion[454]
•Home video sales – $704 million[ge]
•Merchandise sales – $500 million[457]

BATMAN

est. $25 billion

•Retail sales – $20.202 billion[bm] ◦Home video – $1.212 billion[bn]
•Box office – $4.994 billion[bo]
•TV revenue – $40 million[148]

And they didn't list JOKER (2019) yet!
 
Spider-Man?

Raimi, TASM, MCU Spider-Man ($5.75B) and appearances in Civil War, Infinity War, Endgame ($5.998B). If you're including SS, then you have to include those 3.

Retail Sales $28B.

List of highest-grossing media franchises - Wikipedia

TV revenue $880M

Unless you just mean, most profitable DC solo superhero.
 
Total gross of the Batman movies:

$4,992,988,243

+

$746.8 million
Suicide Squad (no superheroes; Batman appears; featuring Joker and Harley Quinn, as well as other Bat-villains)

+

$657.9 million
Justice League (Batman as main character, Superman as secondary character - WW, Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg at that point still not having had solo movies)

+

Joker... 1 billion.


When you think of Spider-Man, Avengers movies don't count at all for so many reasons.
 
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Batman is in the scene with deadshot for a minute.

Batman is in the scene with Harley & Joker for a minute and a half.



And the cameo scene at the end is about a minute.



And you want to consider Joker as a Batman film, even though all you see is a young Bruce Wayne for a few minutes.

So you want to consider 3 and a half minutes as significant time but Spider-Man's screen time in CW (8 min, 35 sec), IW (7 min, 15 sec) and EG (3 minutes) doesn't count?

Even if I would agree, which I don't, your TV revenue is $440M less and your overall retail sails is $8B less. So regardless based on your information sites, Spider-Man still is more profitable.
 
JOKER:

The movie features NO superheroes. The movie focuses on the archenemy of Batman.
Thomas Wayne is one of the main characters.
Bruce Wayne is on it, as well as his origin event.
Arthur Fleck is Said that, JOKER is not a superhero. He is not an antihero. He is the archenemy of Batman.
This movie properly belongs to the Batman Franchise.


AVENGERS:

The Avengers movies feature Spider-Man in a very limited role. It's a glorified cameo. Said that, Spidey was depicted in three Avengers movies featuring very successful solo superheroes having solo movies under their belts LMAO.

There are no successful movies about Green Goblin, Electro, Dr. Octopus, Shocker and Prowler. Otherwise, they would be part of the Spider-Man franchise as well.


SUICIDE SQUAD:

Batman has a cool cameo.
The movie has no superheroes (except Batman, see above). It focuses on Batman's villains. Harley Quinn, Joker, Deadshot, Killer Croc.
It's a movie about Batman's villains.
It belongs to the Batman franchise.


That's it, guys.
 
Even with your mental gymnastics, which again I don't agree with since Batman appears significant less in SS than Spider-Man does in either CW or IW, Spider-Man still has made more money in merchandise and tv revenue so Spider-Man is the most profitable solo superhero ever by your logic.
 
Erzengel said:
Even with your mental gymnastics, which again I don't agree with since Batman appears significant less in SS than Spider-Man does in either CW or IW, Spider-Man still has made more money in merchandise and tv revenue so Spider-Man is the most profitable solo superhero ever by your logic.
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"Suicide Squad" is about Batman's villains.

Batman rules the TV universe:

Team-Ups[edit]
Web series[edit]
Animation[edit]
Super Friends[edit]
DC Animated Universe[edit]
Other[edit]
  • 1968–69: Superman, produced by Filmation; featured Batman in Batman with Robin the Boy Wonder segments; Batman segments were later repackaged as The Adventures of Superman and Batman with Robin the Boy Wonder (voiced by Olan Soule)
  • 1970: Batman appears in three animated educational shorts as part of Sesame Street's first season. Olan Soule reprises his role of Batman
  • 1972: The New Scooby-Doo Movies, produced by Hanna-Barbera; Batman and Robin appeared in episodes "The Dynamic Scooby-Doo Affair" (9/16/72) and "The Caped Crusader Caper" (12/16/72), where Olan Soule again portrays the Caped Crusader
  • 1997: Appeared in the Animaniacs episode "Boo Wonder"; Adam West reprises his role as the Caped Crusader
  • 2004: Teen Titans; appears in silhouette in the episode "Haunted", in a flashback sequence
  • 2004–08: The Batman; in this series, Bruce Wayne is a young crime fighter just three years into his career as Batman. He is voiced by Rino Romano
  • 2005–06: In Krypto the Superdog, Batman himself makes no appearances, but his pet dog Ace the Bat-Hound does, although Ace prefers to refer to himself as "Batman's partner", rather than his pet
  • 2008–11: Batman: The Brave and the Bold; based in part on the comic book series of the same name, the series has Batman (voiced by Diedrich Bader) team-up with several other DC Comics heroes
  • 2010–13: Young Justice; the animated series of Young Justice features Justice League members as well as Batman voiced by Bruce Greenwood, who played the role in the animated film Batman: Under the Red Hood[23]
  • 2012: Mad; when their fellow heroes feel under-appreciated, they appeal to Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman about being called "Super Friends"
  • 2012: New Teen Titans short, "Red X Unmasked"; a cameo appearance as one of the people under the mask of Red X and says his famous line from Batman: The Animated Series, "I am Vengeance, I am the Night, I am," but his mask comes off before he can say his name; voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson
  • 2013-2018: Teen Titans Go!; Batman makes non-speaking cameo appearances in the episodes "La Larva de Amor", "Girl's Night Out", "Books", "Sidekick", "Slumber Party", "Thanksgiving" and "Real Boy Adventures". In the season five episode "Real Orangins", he is seen in a flashback to Robin's time before the Titans, explaining in a comedic fashion how Batman and Robin parted ways, Kevin Conroy reprised his role.
  • 2013: Beware the Batman; a CGI animated series that features Katana as Batman's sidekick[24] (voiced by Anthony Ruivivar)
  • 2016-18: Justice League Action; Batman appears as one of the three lead characters in the show, with Kevin Conroy reprising his role.[25] He has claws in his gloves in an attempt to look more slender than most other incarnations of the character. His child-self is voiced by Tara Strong.
  • 2019-: Harley Quinn; Batman is set to appear in the upcoming animated series on DC Universe, with Diedrich Bader reprising his role.
  • 2019: Scooby-Doo and Guess Who?; For the fifth time, the World's Greatest Detective will team up with Mystery Inc. in the season finale of the series, with Conroy once again providing his voice.
  • 2019: Young Justice: Outsiders; A continuation of Young Justice, it focuses on the events that take place directly after Young Justice.
 
Erzengel said:
Even with your mental gymnastics, which again I don't agree with since Batman appears significant less in SS than Spider-Man does in either CW or IW, Spider-Man still has made more money in merchandise and tv revenue so Spider-Man is the most profitable solo superhero ever by your logic.
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Bug boy is a main character in Infinity War, so I think counting his small role in Endgame is more suitable to be compared to Batman in Suicide Squad.
 
Supperhero said:
"Suicide Squad" is about Batman's villains.

Batman rules the TV universe:

Team-Ups[edit]
Web series[edit]
Animation[edit]
Super Friends[edit]
DC Animated Universe[edit]
Other[edit]
  • 1968–69: Superman, produced by Filmation; featured Batman in Batman with Robin the Boy Wonder segments; Batman segments were later repackaged as The Adventures of Superman and Batman with Robin the Boy Wonder (voiced by Olan Soule)
  • 1970: Batman appears in three animated educational shorts as part of Sesame Street's first season. Olan Soule reprises his role of Batman
  • 1972: The New Scooby-Doo Movies, produced by Hanna-Barbera; Batman and Robin appeared in episodes "The Dynamic Scooby-Doo Affair" (9/16/72) and "The Caped Crusader Caper" (12/16/72), where Olan Soule again portrays the Caped Crusader
  • 1997: Appeared in the Animaniacs episode "Boo Wonder"; Adam West reprises his role as the Caped Crusader
  • 2004: Teen Titans; appears in silhouette in the episode "Haunted", in a flashback sequence
  • 2004–08: The Batman; in this series, Bruce Wayne is a young crime fighter just three years into his career as Batman. He is voiced by Rino Romano
  • 2005–06: In Krypto the Superdog, Batman himself makes no appearances, but his pet dog Ace the Bat-Hound does, although Ace prefers to refer to himself as "Batman's partner", rather than his pet
  • 2008–11: Batman: The Brave and the Bold; based in part on the comic book series of the same name, the series has Batman (voiced by Diedrich Bader) team-up with several other DC Comics heroes
  • 2010–13: Young Justice; the animated series of Young Justice features Justice League members as well as Batman voiced by Bruce Greenwood, who played the role in the animated film Batman: Under the Red Hood[23]
  • 2012: Mad; when their fellow heroes feel under-appreciated, they appeal to Superman, Batman, and Wonder Woman about being called "Super Friends"
  • 2012: New Teen Titans short, "Red X Unmasked"; a cameo appearance as one of the people under the mask of Red X and says his famous line from Batman: The Animated Series, "I am Vengeance, I am the Night, I am," but his mask comes off before he can say his name; voiced by Kevin Michael Richardson
  • 2013-2018: Teen Titans Go!; Batman makes non-speaking cameo appearances in the episodes "La Larva de Amor", "Girl's Night Out", "Books", "Sidekick", "Slumber Party", "Thanksgiving" and "Real Boy Adventures". In the season five episode "Real Orangins", he is seen in a flashback to Robin's time before the Titans, explaining in a comedic fashion how Batman and Robin parted ways, Kevin Conroy reprised his role.
  • 2013: Beware the Batman; a CGI animated series that features Katana as Batman's sidekick[24] (voiced by Anthony Ruivivar)
  • 2016-18: Justice League Action; Batman appears as one of the three lead characters in the show, with Kevin Conroy reprising his role.[25] He has claws in his gloves in an attempt to look more slender than most other incarnations of the character. His child-self is voiced by Tara Strong.
  • 2019-: Harley Quinn; Batman is set to appear in the upcoming animated series on DC Universe, with Diedrich Bader reprising his role.
  • 2019: Scooby-Doo and Guess Who?; For the fifth time, the World's Greatest Detective will team up with Mystery Inc. in the season finale of the series, with Conroy once again providing his voice.
  • 2019: Young Justice: Outsiders; A continuation of Young Justice, it focuses on the events that take place directly after Young Justice.
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Let's end this.

This is the site where you got some of your information.

List of highest-grossing media franchises - Wikipedia

Spider-Man is higher than Batman and the TV revenue is $880M to $40M. What other possible angle are you going to go for?

Spider-Aziz said:
Bug boy is a main character in Infinity War, so I think counting his small role in Endgame is more suitable to be compared to Batman in Suicide Squad.
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He has as much screen time as Cap did. I would easily consider that more significant than SS.
 
List of highest-grossing media franchises - Wikipedia

Spider-Man is higher than Batman and the TV revenue is $880M to $40M. What other possible angle are you going to go for?
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According to WIKI: 28 billion dollars Spider, 25 billion dollars Batman... BUT:

LMAO. On that list, they did not count the movies: Justice League; Suicide Squad; Joker. As well as the comic book sales and the merchandise profits for Bats.

COMIC BOOK SALES profits:

Batman - 477 million
Spider-Man - 380 million



That's life, man.
 
Spider-Aziz said:
Bug boy is a main character in Infinity War, so I think counting his small role in Endgame is more suitable to be compared to Batman in Suicide Squad.
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'Avengers Endgame' is a superhero team movie where Spider operates among many superheroes who had successful solo movies before and inbetween the Avengers movies:

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Hulk
Black Panther
Ant-Man
Dr. Strange
Guardians of Galaxy
Captain Marvel


Batman is the absolute lead character of "Justice League". He is 100% the primary character. Superman appears in the second half, Aquaman/Flash/Cyborg haven't had solo movies at that point, Wonder Woman had her solo movie just months before.
 
Venomfan said:
Venom made a ton of money. Does it not count because it sucks? Is that how the goal posts will move? What bizarre criteria
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The terrible "Venom" movie doesn't belong to the Spider-Man Movie Franchise. First of all, generally speaking, Venom is a standalone superhero, not Spider-Man's supervillain anymore. Since decades. He got his own resonance, not related to Spidey.
Most importantly, they stripped the cinematic version of spider-powers and spider-symbol.
The Venom movie doesn't count.
 
Erzengel said:
IW is easily an ensemble movie just like JL.

Again, you're trying to move the goalposts so that Batman comes out on top despite a list that clearly shows Spider-Man is ahead.
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The JUSTICE LEAGUE movie is a Batman movie in disguise.

Batman is the lead character and the drive of the story.
Superman is a secondary character and just appears in the second half.
Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg haven't got solo movies at that point.
Wonder Woman had a solo movie just months before. Maybe she can be considered as the co-lead of the movie. Think about "Batman & Wonder Woman (+ their friends)".
 
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Supperhero said:
SUICIDE SQUAD:

Batman has a cool cameo.
The movie has no superheroes (except Batman, see above). It focuses on Batman's villains. Harley Quinn, Joker, Deadshot, Killer Croc.
It's a movie about Batman's villains.
It belongs to the Batman franchise.


That's it, guys.
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SS has a Flash cameo, too, not just Batman. And it includes as a major character from start to finish the separate superhero Katana (whose comics connections with Batman were entirely removed for the movie). And by your own standards, Deadshot has clearly become his own leading character a long time ago, as well, as the main star of the SS comics. And El Diablo, Enchantress (and Incubus), Slipknot and Captain Boomerang have never had anything to do with Batman at all to begin. Also Amanda Waller and Rick Flagg are characters totally indepedent of Batman as well. Even the movie's version of Killer Croc was strippped of all meaningful Bat-related backstory beyond the vague notion that he once got into a fight with Batman and lost (but wasn't captured).
 
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Bayne said:
SS has a Flash cameo, too, not just Batman. And it includes as a major character from start to finish the separate superhero Katana (whose comics connections with Batman were entirely removed for the movie). And by your own standards, Deadshot has clearly become his own leading character a long time ago, as well, as the main star of the SS comics. And El Diablo, Enchantress (and Incubus), Slipknot and Captain Boomerang have never had anything to do with Batman at all to begin. Also Amanda Waller and Rick Flagg are characters totally indepedent of Batman as well. Even the movie's version of Killer Croc was strippped of all meaningful Bat-related backstory beyond the vague notion that he once got into a fight with Batman and lost (but wasn't captured).
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The Suicide Squad is about a team mostly composed of Bat-villains. Deadshot has been one of Batman's villains for MOST of its comic book life. There's the JOKER, as well as HARLEY QUINN. There's Killer Croc. There are no superheroes in the movie, except for BATMAN. That's undeniable.

The Flash cameo in BvS lasts 3 seconds at best. LOL.
 
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BATMAN FRANCHISE - List of Movies (so far):

Batman (1966)
Batman (1989)
Batman Returns (1992)
Batman Forever (1995)
Batman & Robin (1997)
Catwoman (2004)
Batman Begins (2005)
The Dark Knight (2008)
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (2016)
Suicide Squad (2016)
Justice League: Batman & Wonder Woman (2017)
Joker (2019)
Birds of Prey (2020)
The Batman (2021)
The Suicide Squad (2021)

Total: 16 movies.


Live action TV series:

Batman (1966-1968)
Gotham (2014-2019)
Batwoman (2019)
 
Wikipedia just inserted 'Joker' in the gross of the Batman franchise.
Suicide Squad and Justice League are still missing:

Batman in film - Wikipedia
 
Supperhero said:
The Suicide Squad is about a team mostly composed of Bat-villains. Deadshot has been one of Batman's villains for MOST of its comic book life. There's the JOKER, as well as HARLEY QUINN. There's Killer Croc. There are no superheroes in the movie, except for BATMAN. That's undeniable.

The Flash cameo in BvS lasts 3 seconds at best. LOL.
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You have incorrect facts, or else a poor understanding of the word 'undeniable'. The Flash *is* in Suicide Squad, too. So is Katana.

The Joker is not a member of the squad, nor a major villain, just a cameo. The Suicide Squad roster is traditionally drawn from all over the dc universe and is not born primarily of Batman comics and Deadshot is primarily associated with the squad at this point, not with Batman.

Also, the Squad in the movie consists of Harley, Deadshot, Flagg, Enchantress, Croc, El Diablo, Slipknot, Captain Boomerang, and Katana. 9 characters. Only 2 (or 3 if you absolutely must count Deadshot) even remotely connected to Batman in the film. Plus Amanda Waller, a major character who also has no connection to Batman in the film.
 
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