BvS Batman/Superman Pushed Back to 2016 - Part 1

[Poni_Boy]

Exactly. There are 250 to 300 people on the set of a tent pole. You can't start production on a whim. These movies are as it is monstrously expensive.

Not to mention the two big aspects: unions and insurance

 

[InJustice]

What part of the statement "Deadline is a legitimate entertainment news entity and doesn't report on things without doing thorough vetting" did you miss?

No news agency is infallible, but dismissing the Deadline report out-of-hand just because it conflicts with what Warner Bros. said several days ago is ridiculous.

As for Gal's comments, just because she doesn't start filming until May doesn't mean that filming on the movie as a whole is still being delayed until then even if it were going to be at the time Warner Bros. announced that it was.

So you're going to take Deadline's words over a company that came out and stated their intentions? This argument is going to be circular, I could easily say the same to you, "dismissing WB's press release because of Deadline's article is ridiculous." The only difference is that Deadline is prone to mistakes, whereas WB has come out and stated their intentions. If you ask me, I take WB's press release over Deadline's in terms of validity, since y'know...the company said it.

As for Gal, that may be the case, but as Poni and slumcat stated, it's ****ing expensive to start production, so you can't just start on a whim.

 

[slumcat]

The location should be available. The cameraman should be available. The designers should be available etc. etc. etc.

 

[DigificWriter]

What part of "Deadline is not infallible" do YOU not understand?

No news agency is ever infallible, but, aside from FOX News and its associated media enterprises, most news agencies don't report on things without having 'done their homework' and verified what they're reporting on.

So you're going to take Deadline's words over a company that came out and stated their intentions?

Yes, because the Deadline report is much more recent, and because, as I've stated, Deadline is not going to report on something they have not thoroughly vetted.

 

[slumcat]

No news agency is ever infallible, but, aside from FOX News and its associated media enterprises, most news agencies don't report on things without having 'done their homework' and verified what they're reporting on.

Jesus christ my friend, do you live in utopia?

On my earth I atleast know that that is not the case. There is no honor is journalism is all I can say.

 

[Poni_Boy]

No news agency is ever infallible, but, aside from FOX News and its associated media enterprises, most news agencies don't report on things without having 'done their homework' and verified what they're reporting on.

Then why did Deadline report 20 or so people to play Captain America that Marvel didn't even screentest? Then why does THR continue to mention Terrio involved with this movie when the studio doesn't mention him? Then why did Variety say Michael Douglas is the villain in ant-Man when he isn't?

That's the WHOLE DAMN point. They ARE wrong from time to time. STUIO PRESS RELEASES are not wrong. Fox News has NOTHING to do with this because they aren't part of the entertainment news machine but by mentioning them in the same sentence is seems you're unaware of how this industry works. So, once again, entertainment news accuracy works like this -- from 100% accurate to unconfirmed speculation:

Studio press release > Trades (plural) > major news outlets (i.e. EW, TV guide) > Actor/director/producer interviews > aggregate news outlets > blogs/fansites > Twitter/Facebook/messageboards

 

[Poni_Boy]

Yes, because the Deadline report is much more recent, and because, as I've stated, Deadline is not going to report on something they have not thoroughly vetted.

Deadline pulls stuff out of their a** quite a lot. Again, as anyone who works for the trades or another legitimate news outlet. Do you even know who Nikki Finke is? She may not be there anymore with her Toldja crap but that outlet has, and does, still follow her mantra "it's better to be first and wrong than second and right"

 

[InJustice]

Yes, because the Deadline report is much more recent, and because, as I've stated, Deadline is not going to report on something they have not thoroughly vetted.

That's horrendous logic then. How can you even prove that they thoroughly checked to see if their news has legs? You're talking as if they actually do that, whereas it's much more likely to assume that they don't give a crap about checking news, just as long as they're the ones to showcase it first. At least WB's press release makes sense because it's coming straight from the source.

 

[DigificWriter]

^ Do you work in Journalism? My experience has been that most legitimate news agencies are not going to report on information they have not verified. This doesn't mean they're always going to get everything right 100% of the time, but that's just life.

 

[Poni_Boy]

If all the trades (or at least three of them) don't report the same big news then that news is inaccurate in some way, shape or form. Bottom line. End of story. If you don't agree with that it's because you're naive to this industry.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Wait... Terio is out?

 

[Poni_Boy]

That's exactly what it is KalMart

 

[InJustice]

^ Do you work in Journalism? My experience has been that most legitimate news agencies are not going to report on information they have not verified. This doesn't mean they're always going to get everything right 100% of the time, but that's just life.

Whether I am working in journalism or not is irrelevant. Therein lies the problem, you've essentially generalized your experiences as if it's the ONLY truth, committing a confirmation bias fallacy.

There have been so many events (not just limited to the entertainment industry) where news are reported for the sake of being first, rather than validity. Celebrity deaths (hoaxes) are a good example.

 

[Mysteryman]

I certainly believe there has been a delay.
I hope it starts up again as soon as possible .

 

[DigificWriter]

I don't really care if there's been a delay or not. I choose to believe Deadline's reporting because of their status as a legitimate entertainment news entity. We shall see whether or not that reporting turns out to be accurate based on what happens in the next little while.

 

[slumcat]

It seems that some may be more inclined to believe there was never a delay because they don't want there to be one....

Yeah I think is delusional fan devotion in a way.

 

[Poni_Boy]

Naaailed it

 

[slumcat]

Naaailed it

God almighty what in whole wide world is that??????????????

 

[Poni_Boy]

First set video. Didn't you hear production already stated? That's Zack swinging over their heads filming hand held footage

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

First set video. Didn't you hear production already stated? That's Zack swinging over their heads filming hand held footage

And some were complaining about "shaky cam" before.

 

[NoLaNitE007]

WB said production (i.e. first unit filming) takes place Q2 2014. That is the last, certified factual piece of information that has been released. Anything else that didn't pass the trade smell test is just speculation.

It costs upwards of $100,000 per day of production for a tentpole genre movie (twice as much if you're using IMAX or 3D cameras). You don't just enter production whenever you feel like it. The start and end dates of a production have to be greenlit by the studio, it's not up to the filmmakers. Zack and Co can do as many months of pre-pro (much lower cost) as they'd like -- and they should -- because all that background work will help them to minimize actual production days.

Yeeeeessssssss! t:

 

[NoLaNitE007]

More time is a good thing. At least it should be.

It WILL be....it WILL be!

 

[roach]

Are we not taking into account that perhaps whatever was causing the delay is no longer a factor and the studio may have said go if you can?
"While Warner Bros. recently pushed the release date for the movie from 2015 to 2016, word is that production is not being delayed and the main players have been summoned to start work right away."
Seems like the plan has changed.

 

[roach]

Again, you generally don't officially 'call it', send the crew home for months and then change your mind about it a week later. And even though the delay seemed last minute, they take a lot of things into account when they do something like a reschedule with something of this magnitude. Not saying it's completely out of the realm of possibility...but it is a very, very big machine that doesn't exactly turn on a dime.


Actually, based on 'word is...' it kinda' seems like an assumption or misinterpretation of hearsay.

Movies are not well scheduled things...they are full of chaos and confusion.

It could be one of those 'off the record' type things.

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

2014-01-17 Warner Bros. - Zack Snyder’s Much-Anticipated Superman/Batman Film Moves to May 6, 2016. Warner Bros. Pictures’ All New Peter Pan Adventure Flies into a July 17, 2015 Release Date. "The decision was made following the shift of the start of production to second quarter of this year."

2014-01-22 MLive - Warner Bros. 'Batman vs. Superman' filming likely moved to 'sometime this spring,' Michigan Film Office says "Because of the schedule changes, filming will likely start sometime this spring," wrote Michigan Film Office spokeswoman Michelle Grinnell in an e-mail to MLive.com."

2014-01-22 The Hollywood Reporter - Gal Gadot Reveals The Length, Cost of Her Wonder Woman Role "Good Evening also revealed that Gadot is scheduled to start filming in May, thanks to the revised production schedule for the feature after last week's announced delay on the project, which saw a shift in release date from July 2015 to May 2016."

2014-01-24 Deadline - Fox Pilot ‘The Middle Man’ On Pause As Ben Affleck Becomes Unavailable To Direct "While Warner Bros. recently pushed the release date for the movie from 2015 to 2016, word is that production is not being delayed and the main players have been summoned to start work right away. Additionally, I hear Affleck has other film commitments in the spring, when The Middle Man pilot is scheduled to shoot."