BvS Batman V Superman Box Office Prediction - - - Part 12

[Jumpman]

Why do they keep giving this guy money?

Lord, I get you don't like him but you sound like you want him severely punished.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

This is prety much Warner Brothers/DC at the moment with Snyder:

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Shareholders didn't make those decisions. They trust in the execs they vote in. Someone very high up is protecting Snyder. He's like that rich kid who never applies himself to anything because he has his parents money to play with.

So he's like Johnny Manziel?

 

[Poni_Boy]

Why do they keep giving this guy money?

You tell me. No other director that I know of has a record like this with this kind of money and keeps getting more to play with. Savvy?

 

[jmc]

Lord, I get you don't like him but you sound like you want him severely punished.

I don't want him punished, I just don't get why they would put this level of trust in someone who is, at best, inconsistent.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

You tell me. No other director that I know of has a record like this with this kind of money and keeps getting more to play with. Savvy?

The Wachowski's did until Jupiter Ascending.

 

[InspecktahDeck]

What's the sweet spot of money this has to hit to keep moving forward with JL, but get rid of Snyder?

 

[Val_Zod]

You tell me. No other director that I know of has a record like this with this kind of money and keeps getting more to play with. Savvy?

I'd imagine he's really good at negotiating. Snyder managed to get Ben onboard to play Batman even after he swore off Superhero movies.

 

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

What's the sweet spot of money this has to hit to keep moving forward with JL, but get rid of Snyder?

Under a billion is a safe bet.

 

[king666]

Dawn of the Dead (Universal) - Budget: $26 million / BO: $102,356,381

300 - Budget: $65 million / BO: $456,068,181

Watchmen - Budget: $130 million / BO: $185,258,983

Legend of the Guardians - Budget: $80 million / BO: $140,073,390

Sucker Punch - Budget: $82 million / BO: $89,792,502

Man of Steel - Budget: $225 million / BO: $668,045,518

 

[Boom]

Make it a character film. Focus on Superman and Clark instead of special effects. I'm not thinking Deadpool's budget, but, you know, somewhere in the 120M range. Keep it as low as possible.

This may sound sacrilegious, but I'd almost consider toning Superman's power set down a notch.

I'd approach the physics of Superman like the Fleischer cartoon. You really get a sense of weight in the way he moves. Closer to Hercules and Samson.

 

[Poni_Boy]

The Wachowski's did until Jupiter Ascending.

They made The Matrix first. That's what got them bankrolled

 

[Jumpman]

I don't want him punished, I just don't get why they would put this level of trust in someone who is, at best, inconsistent.

Because of his talent and unlike the Wachowskis, he hasn't lost SERIOUS money for them like they have.

He's basically been in the middle between Eastwood, Nolan, and Affleck results vs the Wachowskis.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I'd imagine he's really good at negotiating. Snyder managed to get Ben onboard to play Batman even after he swore off Superhero movies.

Ben always wanted to be Batman. Giving him some creative control of the character plus a big check is all it took from WB

 

[Lord]

I heard great things about Cloud Atlas though, it was only after Jupiter Ascending that people went to saying they haven't made a good film since matrix 1 again.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

When your critical peak is a remake of a horror movie classic what even is your life/career?

 

[Zero_Effect]

The Wachowski's did until Jupiter Ascending.

McG, who almost directed a Superman movie, had a decent run for a few years.

 

[Jumpman]

They made The Matrix first. That's what got them bankrolled

300 did for Snyder. MAN OF STEEL kept the train going.

 

[johnboy3434]

100%. What's his box office history so far with WB? Can somebody list the movies budgets/box office? I'm on my phone hard to get it all

All of his movies have been under Warner except for Dawn of the Dead.

300 (2007)
Budget: $65 million
Worldwide Gross: $456 million
--Domestic: $211 million
--Foreign: $245 million

Watchmen (2009)
Budget: $130 million
Worldwide Gross: $185 million
--Domestic: $108 million
--Foreign: $78 million

Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole (2010)
Budget: $80 million
Worldwide Gross: $140 million
--Domestic: $56 million
--Foreign: $84 million

Sucker Punch (2011)
Budget: $82 million
Worldwide Gross: $90 million
--Domestic: $36 million
--Foreign: $53 million

Man of Steel (2013)
Budget: $225 million
Worldwide Gross: $668 million
--Domestic: $291 million
--Foreign: $377 million

 

[Poni_Boy]

Because of his talent and unlike the Wachowskis, he hasn't lost SERIOUS money for them like they have.

He's basically been in the middle between Eastwood, Nolan, and Affleck results vs the Wachowskis.

Eastwood, Nolan and Affleck won WB big box offices, awards and critical acclaim. So they're allowed missteps here and there. Snyder has lost WB serious money

 

[Lord]

When your critical peak is a remake of a horror movie classic what even is your life/career?

uhm.......John Carpenter's best film was arguably The Thing, a remake of a horror movie classic.

 

[Poni_Boy]

300 did for Snyder. MAN OF STEEL kept the train going.

You can't compare those two at all really. One is a moderately successful one-off and the other is a genre changing blockbuster trilogy.

 

[daddydivine]

Man that 300 made SERIOUS profit.

 

[Jumpman]

Eastwood, Nolan and Affleck won WB big box offices, awards and critical acclaim. So they're allowed missteps here and there. Snyder has lost WB serious money

Not like the Wachowskis, he hasn't. Not even close. Look, I love SPEED RACER and greatly admire ASCENDING both those two and ATLAS lost serious money IN A ROW. MAN OF STEEL stopped the bleeding for Snyder.

This one kind of does the same thing.

 

[GreenKToo]

It's no skin off my back, but I see no way they can continue with snyder, even if BvS makes a profit. Most either don't like BvS, or, are indifferent to it, or, outright hate it.
The anticipation for JL, once they find out snyder is directing it, will be very low.
It's a no win.

The BO doesn't lie. If it had any goodwill, it would be doing great right now, not limping along.