Batman Vs Bruce Lee

MatchesMalone said:
Just saying the words "Chinese Samurai" makes me want to punch something.

Don't get me started on the inaccuracies of Dragon, I will not stop for a week.

That wa not a Samurai and neither was intended to be. :rolleyes:
 
raybia said:
Yeah, you have a good point. How about Batman vs. Bruce Lee's character from Enter the Dragon?(whatever his name was)


:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
MatchesMalone said:
Capoeira had more to do with that

;)


Yeah and Capoeira is sure at leas a couple of centuries older than Lee too..
 
If anyone has seen the Game of Death (the footage that Lee completed while he was still alive) I am positive that Batman could not defeat Lee. Even if he did he would be half-dead or near death himself. Lee is just too fast, strong, agile, flexible, coordinated, dextrous, and tough.
 
In my experience with Jeet Kune Do (wich is a great fighting style by the way) Batman could easily take him (in the DC universe anyway) , I think he knows it himself, or is at least very familiar with it. I always thought it used that or ju jistu due to the amount of street fighting he's had to do.

Jeet Kune Do tends to counter more than use primary attacks. Much like Ju Jistu it waits for your apponent to **** up then you get to **** him up. JKD is all about speed and "broken rythem"

Please mods, someone close these VS threads....or just start sending goatse
 
Batcrazy said:
That wa not a Samurai and neither was intended to be. :rolleyes:

Wow...just...wow. Go look at a pic of Feudal Samurai battle dress, and get back to me.

EDIT - nevermind, I did it:

Dragon:
DragonTheBruceLeeStory_2.jpg


Samurai:

Gunner2.jpg


Hmm....

Yeah and Capoeira is sure at leas a couple of centuries older than Lee too..

To clarify, I meant capoeira was an influence for Sijo Lee, not vice versa.
 
That's not a samurai. It may look similar, but if you look closer, specially at the part where little Bruce is passing by the statues in the beginning of the movie, and the one you're calling a samurai is there too, you can see the differences more clearly.

About the capoeira, I thought you meant it was a influence for todays cardio fighting systems, like tae-bo etc. Which is also true.
I was actually agreeing with you there.
 
Dude. It was a Samurai. Whether the filmmakers even knew or not, the battle armor worn by that actor in that scene was samurai-inspired. Even down to the scales on the shoulder guards and tunic.
 
Sad thing is that the masses have been conned into thinking that Dragon was an accurate biopic.The only part of that film that was true was the scene where the Raymond Chow character tells Lee Iin reference to Lee still wanting to be a star in the West)-" you want their love, our love is not good enough for you "

Draggin:The Linda Lee Story.Damn shame.
 
silentflute said:
Sad thing is that the masses have been conned into thinking that Dragon was an accurate biopic.The only part of that film that was true was the scene where the Raymond Chow character tells Lee Iin reference to Lee still wanting to be a star in the West)-" you want their love, our love is not good enough for you "

Draggin:The Linda Lee Story.Damn shame.
I know enough about Mr. Lee to see the differences between this movie and his life but I still enjoyed the movie.
 
gregtestagent said:
I know enough about Mr. Lee to see the differences between this movie and his life but I still enjoyed the movie.

It was an entertaining film, and Jason Scott Lee's performance was passionate.

As far is it resembling Lee's life....uhm,no.

If they ever get around to making a Shang Chi film,Jason would be perfect casting though.
 
gregtestagent said:
I know enough about Mr. Lee to see the differences between this movie and his life but I still enjoyed the movie.

I agree. It was the best Bruce Lee film not actually featuring Bruce himself.
 
Dear Diamond Head, You are Flawed in writing that Bruce Lee wasnt a real athlete. He could side kick waay more than 300lbs, of a heavy bag. At Martial arts competitions (where he gave demonstrations) he easily grappelled the leading world champion of one of the styles (Dan Inosanto) down. After his encounter with Wong Jack Man, He became powerful enough that they needed to reinforce his training equipment with machine parts. So mind what you are saying.

Will Bruce Lee win Mhd Ali in a Boxing only match? Yes. Not because of prejudice here. Truthfully, Bruce could send a heavy bag moving with a punch. The toughest fellows who faced Muhammed Ali, Like "powerhouses" like george foreman could make Great Dents in 200lb heavy bags. Dents <<< to actually moving the Bag. Plus bruce had always retained Ali's movements and techniques, floating and stinging. As a result while he would be equal to Ali in combat movement and timing, Bruce would win Ali in two areas: the power at the point of contact & the reading of Ali's moves. Ali would only read the punches movement, But Lee sizes everything up beforehand, coz that's what wing chun teaches him.

On Bruce Lee vs Batman: Matched evenly...coz Bruce had a wealth of official training which evolved. Bat's is not an actual master in any of his skills...he was just extremely skilled that's it.

On Dragon: the Bruce Lee story, it was a made up presumptuous account of his story. Except for the implications of the locations in his life, the events were all fake. Jason-scott lee acts well as bruce lee, kudos for that!
 
Bruce Lee trained Batman. Sensei and student do not fight.

gregtestagent said:
And he kicked Chuck Norris's ass link

So now there is nothing keeping Chuck Norris from going rogue:(
 
mano012sg said:
Will Bruce Lee win Mhd Ali in a Boxing only match? Yes. Not because of prejudice here. Truthfully, Bruce could send a heavy bag moving with a punch. The toughest fellows who faced Muhammed Ali, Like "powerhouses" like george foreman could make Great Dents in 200lb heavy bags. Dents <<< to actually moving the Bag.
Err... woah. Heavy bags move pretty easily. They swing all the time when people punch them. Leaving a dent in one, on the other hand, is quite the accomplishment.
Anyway, it's a foregone conclusion that Batman would ruin anyone's ****, living or dead. He's the goddamn Batman! :batman:
 
They would be evenly matched, but then Lee would mysteriously slip into a coma, and Batman would save his life.
 
Ronny Shade said:
They would be evenly matched, but then Lee would mysteriously slip into a coma, and Batman would save his life.

So wrong in so many ways...
 
Bruce Lee would kick his ass so hard he will think he is Robin right after being raped by Batman
 
Qoèlet said:
Err... woah. Heavy bags move pretty easily. They swing all the time when people punch them. Leaving a dent in one, on the other hand, is quite the accomplishment.
Anyway, it's a foregone conclusion that Batman would ruin anyone's ****, living or dead. He's the goddamn Batman! :batman:

Yo man I see that You Lurve rebutting me and seeking me out. Heavy bags move pretty easily when people punch, or make it better kick them. To make a dent is accomplishment. True. Very True. when making a big dent is well making a dent and moving means it sways a little. I can do tat if i push the bag, knock it, throw my body to tackle it. But:

Then tell me can you kick a 300lb heavy bag to the ceiling, and stop it with another kickbefore it sways to you? Do that first ok. 300lbs= 150 kg. Do it, or at least punch it so that it actually swings well away from you. DO IT!!!

Professional Boxers can't even do that, for if they did their heavy bag will be much heavier so that the bag doesnt move. else it defeats the purpose of a Heavy bag understand? You are at best able to make a huge dent with a powerful sound. That's power, that came from george foreman. Dent equal daamge,true. but after your dent, when the bag flies! that Is what bruce lee was capable of. If you don't understand, go and read up the correct books and websites like "Search engine: 'Bruce lee: the philosophy of a human being'" first.
 
Qoèlet said:
Err... woah. Heavy bags move pretty easily. They swing all the time when people punch them. Leaving a dent in one, on the other hand, is quite the accomplishment.
Anyway, it's a foregone conclusion that Batman would ruin anyone's ****, living or dead. He's the goddamn Batman! :batman:

Yo man I see that You Lurve rebutting me and seeking me out. Heavy bags move pretty easily when people punch, or make it better kick them. To make a dent is accomplishment. True. Very True. when making a big dent is well making a dent and moving means it sways a little. I can do tat if i push the bag, knock it, throw my body to tackle it. But:

Then tell me can you kick a 300lb heavy bag to the ceiling, and stop it with another kickbefore it sways to you? Do that first ok. 300lbs= 150 kg. Do it, or at least punch it so that it actually swings well away from you. DO IT!!!

Professional Boxers can't even do that, for if they did their heavy bag will be much heavier so that the bag doesnt move. else it defeats the purpose of a Heavy bag understand? You are at best able to make a huge dent with a powerful sound. That's power, that came from george foreman. Dent equal daamge,true. but after your dent, when the bag flies! that Is what bruce lee was capable of. If you don't understand, go and read up the correct books and websites like "Search engine: 'Bruce lee: the philosophy of a human being'" first.
 
Qoèlet said:
Err... woah. Heavy bags move pretty easily. They swing all the time when people punch them. Leaving a dent in one, on the other hand, is quite the accomplishment.
Anyway, it's a foregone conclusion that Batman would ruin anyone's ****, living or dead. He's the goddamn Batman! :batman:

Yo man I see that You Lurve rebutting me and seeking me out. Heavy bags move pretty easily when people punch, or make it better kick them. To make a dent is accomplishment. True. Very True. when making a big dent is well making a dent and moving means it sways a little. I can do tat if i push the bag, knock it, throw my body to tackle it. But:

Then tell me can you kick a 300lb heavy bag to the ceiling, and stop it with another kickbefore it sways to you? Do that first ok. 300lbs= 150 kg. Do it, or at least punch it so that it actually swings well away from you. DO IT!!!

Professional Boxers can't even do that, for if they did their heavy bag will be much heavier so that the bag doesnt move. else it defeats the purpose of a Heavy bag understand? You are at best able to make a huge dent with a powerful sound. That's power, that came from george foreman. Dent equal daamge,true. but after your dent, when the bag flies! that Is what bruce lee was capable of. If you don't understand, go and read up the correct books and websites like "Search engine: 'Bruce lee: the philosophy of a human being'" first.
 
Very hard decision. In a normal fight, Bruce Lee would win. With all those wonderful toys, Batman would win.
 
mano012sg said:
Then tell me can you kick a 300lb heavy bag to the ceiling, and stop it with another kickbefore it sways to you? Do that first ok. 300lbs= 150 kg. Do it, or at least punch it so that it actually swings well away from you. DO IT!!!
Odd: In your last post he was punching the bag. Now he's kicking it. Never mind that how hard Bruce Lee kicks has nothing to do with the point you were trying to make about how hard he could punch, maybe you could make up your mind: which is it?
In any case, you're basing this, I assume, on that single quotation on the website you made reference too. Well, here's the thing: we have an eye-witness account, given possibly several years after that fact, which provides few details. Never mind that, in hindsight, this fellow might very well be slipping into hyperbole. In actual footage of Lee training, which I unfortunately cannot provide here, you can see him kicking, for one, a pad held by another man, and then what appears to be the infamous heavy bag on his patio, as described by Mr. Jay described it. My first observation: the bag looks too small to be 300 pounds (perhaps Lee had more than one bag on his patio? Who knows?). My second: the footage consists of Lee going off-screen then running back to deliver a side kick. This is how he kicks, again and again. The bag certainly goes quite a ways but it damn well ought to when the guy is getting a running start before hitting it.
 
silentflute said:
In a ring with rules-absolutly.On the street, Lee would have slaughtered Ali.

He did in fact train to tapes of Ali to study his techniques.As far as speed,Lee was faster than Ali.
True Silent Flute, Bruce, as an Asian was a lot faster than a Western boxer. Given, Ali was a light-weight (not in terms of the weighting categories ok?) boxer compared to his pals, in his hey days, Bruce was more worried about if Ali made contact with him. He was commenting about Ali's hand size actually! But speed wise, not just was Bruce probably at least 1.5times faster, but fighting science wise, self-trained to read his opponent's intentions. Ali was a little inferior to Bruce in this respect, in that he relied on judging his opponent's punching range and speed. Yeah it takes hell of a lot of attention to detail, but ATTENTION lapsing was what Bruce used as a signal to launch his attacks. He demoed this in the Bob Wall scene in Enter the Dragon.
 

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