Batman Vs. Superman Who Would Win

[K'Prime]

Superman horrifically out classes batman.only threw PIS does batman stand a chance.hell its not even like batman never lost to anyone lower tier then supes before

 

[true316]

Of course if logic has anything to do with it Superman would win. But in the end it just comes down to what the writer wants to do and sometimes writers turn Batman into a complete joke of a character.

Fast forward to 4:00 to see Superman get his butt kicked by Sinestro and then see how Batman handles the same opponent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRJfvldaNvQ

Batman Vs. Darkseid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y8WqbrhAs4

Seriously?!? They couldn't have given that glory moment to the Flash? Because Batman doesn't get enough already?

Then there was the time Batman sidekicked the Hulk:

Sometimes Batman is written as this all powerful, omnipotent, batgod figure and just gets ridiculous. It is why I SOOOOO prefer Nolan's version. Nolan's Batman > Omnipotent Batgod.

It just comes down to how the writers want to approach Batman.

 

[DrCosmic]

Batman wins because the writers and editors like him more.

 

[dnno1]

Of course if logic has anything to do with it Superman would win. But in the end it just comes down to what the writer wants to do and sometimes writers turn Batman into a complete joke of a character.

Fast forward to 4:00 to see Superman get his butt kicked by Sinestro and then see how Batman handles the same opponent:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRJfvldaNvQ

Batman Vs. Darkseid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Y8WqbrhAs4

Seriously?!? They couldn't have given that glory moment to the Flash? Because Batman doesn't get enough already?

Then there was the time Batman sidekicked the Hulk:

Sometimes Batman is written as this all powerful, omnipotent, batgod figure and just gets ridiculous. It is why I SOOOOO prefer Nolan's version. Nolan's Batman > Omnipotent Batgod.

It just comes down to how the writers want to approach Batman.

I'm pretty sure that Nolan's Batman would have done this, but then again, there would be no Hulk in Nolan's universe.

 

[true316]

I'm pretty sure that Nolan's Batman would have done this, but then again, there would be no Hulk in Nolan's universe.

What in the films gave you the impression that Nolan's Batman could successfully kick The Incredible Hulk in the stomach?

 

[uniqueweasel]

Against all logic, I must back the Bat, you gotta root for the underdog!

 

[dnno1]

 

[Anno_Domini]

If The World's Greatest Detective has a sharp of Kryptonite, then I give him the win. Hell, if Batman can get the chance to use red sun radiation even. And that should be one of the points of how Batman can win. He's a bloody detective; using his wits should be part of the game and that's how Superman can lose even with all of his might.

 

[dnno1]

If The World's Greatest Detective has a sharp of Kryptonite, then I give him the win. Hell, if Batman can get the chance to use red sun radiation even. And that should be one of the points of how Batman can win. He's a bloody detective; using his wits should be part of the game and that's how Superman can lose even with all of his might.

You didn't watch the video. It explains why those two reasons don't work.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Superman x rays and superhears wherever Batman is and takes him out. Laser vision takes out the kryptonite from a distance if he even chooses to let the confrontation get that far, he drops a building on Batman, x rays for body, melts remains. Only way Batman beats Superman in a fight is if Superman stalls because he can't decide on which one of the millions ways he can take Batman out to go with, and Batman somehow manages to stab him with kryptonite or one of the 2 out of 3 other ways he could possibly beat him.

Batman loses fight.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Or...Superman ends up trying to X-ray but can't if Batman is in a place lined with lead.

 

[Anno_Domini]

You didn't watch the video. It explains why those two reasons don't work.

Lol, this thread is just asking, and I gave my vote. Hey, differing opinions are cool!

 

[Kevin Smith]

In the event he can't see him he hears him though. lol. And melts/smashes/insert fatality here to wherever it is Batman's at.

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lol

I think Nolan would agree.

 

[Anno_Domini]

The director of a Superman film agrees that Superman would win, how controversial, lol.

If you think Nolan would agree, that's nice. I'm just still shocked Nolan still knows a thing or two about Superman when he blasted most of Batman's villains by calling them second-rate Jokers, lol.

Plus...Batman is the type, I feel, that would sacrifice himself if need to. What if he plants a bomb inside a lead building stacked with kryptonite and so when Superman only uses his hearing and then fires off his heat vision...would that kill them both? Or would the heat radiate the kryptonite into red or black?

 

[Kevin Smith]

Did Nolan really say that? Holy crap! lol....where does he say that at? Jw.

I just thought the video was funny and he technically doesn't answer the question. lol. I love how he just goes "really" and his hand gestures hahaha...that's pretty much the same reaction I always have to this fight.

Both are self sacrificing, I think most heroes in the DCU are, but if they both die then nobody really wins though. lol, how would you even determine the winner in that scenario if you were to even try? Whoever died first I guess? lol. The best laid plans always involve Batman having X amount of time to conjure up this stuff which ultimately only stalls Superman for a few seconds. There's not much time to be had when you're fighting a guy who's faster than a speeding bullet though.

 

[BatLobster]

Well, as of this point Batman has already won their most iconic clash in all of fiction (TDK Returns).

And that's the thing to keep in mind. Superman wouldn't want to kill Bruce. But Bruce doesn't have to hold back at all. Give him any sort of equalizer and watch out Supes.

It's the type of thing that at first just seems like a typical fanboy debate, but it's actually a pretty philosophical quandary when you really start taking their personalities into account and what they stand for, etc.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Well, as of this point Batman has already won their most iconic clash in all of fiction (TDK Returns).

And that's the thing to keep in mind. Superman wouldn't want to kill Bruce. But Bruce doesn't have to hold back at all. Give him any sort of equalizer and watch out Supes.

In a Batman book because the book featured Batman as the protagonist, so even though it's DKR, they had to let Batman win as much as they could.

Bruce wouldn't want to kill Clark, either, if he even could.

Even is TDKR story though, if the fight would have lasted one moment longer i.e., Superman allowing Bruce to do **** to him because he doesn't want to really hurt him and knows he can, Superman would have won.

It's the type of thing that at first just seems like a typical fanboy debate, but it's actually a pretty philosophical quandary when you really start taking their personalities into account and what they stand for, etc.

If you take all of that into account they wouldn't even be fighting in the first place though. Why would they?

 

[Enriquespy]

Batman, because he has much more money!!!!!!

 

[Rocanrol]

Batman superpower is being Batman, and that's more than enough to defeat the big blue boy. I'm pretty serious about it. For the same reason Constantine have that friggin' luck, Batman have the upperhand being the "Dark Knight".

Superman wouldn't even think about harming Batman without him knowing it.

 

[BatLobster]

In a Batman book because the book featured Batman as the protagonist, so even though it's DKR, they had to let Batman win as much as they could.

But they depicted a scenario in which you could believe in Batman getting the upperhand. That's the whole point. He used his resources and tech to stay in the fight for as long as possible until Oliver came through with the kryptonite arrow. In theory it should just be a simple squash for Superman...yet here we are having this discussion. That's the beauty of it

Bruce wouldn't want to kill Clark, either, if he even could.

Of course not. But if there's an equalizer in play, Bruce is coming out on top as he's the more skilled fighter. And I don't think Bruce would willingly enter a fight with Superman unless he had access to kryptonite. Remember the question isn't "Who is more powerful?", it's "Who would win?". That's a more loaded question that has to take more into account. If Superman just randomly jumped Bruce, Bruce would be done in less than a second.

Even is TDKR story though, if the fight would have lasted one moment longer i.e., Superman allowing Bruce to do **** to him because he doesn't want to really hurt him and knows he can, Superman would have won.

In any given scenario Superman could easily win. Again, it's the fact that this is even a discussion that speaks volumes of how powerful of a figure we've constructed Batman to be, despite being merely human.

If you take all of that into account they wouldn't even be fighting in the first place though. Why would they?

I wouldn't say they have the rosiest relationship. Batman is often depicted as the paranoid member of the Justice League who doesn't fully trust the superpowered beings, etc. It all depends on the story, but I don't think of their alliance as an easy one at all. The ultimate reason for them to fight in any story is because they are both extremely powerful iconic figures but for very different reasons and it's interesting territory for a writer to explore. A bright and optimistic hero vs. a dark and grim avenger. Man vs. God, etc. etc.

 

[Shikamaru]

Only options on the poll are either Batman or Superman. If I could, I would vote for a tie and I firmly believe that.

Both of them are the exact opposite of each other. What Superman can do, Batman can't. What Batman can do, Superman can't. This is why they work so well together and a clash between them can go either way. These men are essentially the top 2 most respected heroes in the DCU. Superman is the guy everyone in the DCU tries to be like and is aspired by while Batman is the guy everyone in the DCU doesn't want to ever mess with. Hope and justice. Superman strikes hope into good people while Batman strikes fear into bad people.

Batman also doesn't beat Superman in every encounter they have either. This is a big misconception people have. In reality, there have been just as many times when Superman has beat Batman than there have been times when Batman beat Superman. It is just that the times when Batman has beaten Superman are more memorable and are seen in more iconic books (i.e. TDK Returns) thus giving the impression that DC just loves to turn Superman into Batman's ***** over and over again. Another thing to keep in mind is that half to most of the times Batman has beat Superman was with the help of Kryptonite.

Batman would also never kill Superman either. Sure that he would probably go more all out on Superman in a situation where they both believed the other had to be stopped but neither men would kill each other because they are like brothers to each other, something they both admitted. Heck, Clark's death affected Bruce just as much as his parents' death did.

 

[ThePhantasm]

Batman is my favorite, but come on, Supes would definitely win.

Although in terms of who is the most powerful hero of them all, sometimes I think it is Supes... and sometimes I suspect that it would be the Flash, if he fully let loose.

 

[dnno1]

Lol, this thread is just asking, and I gave my vote. Hey, differing opinions are cool!

Fair enough.

 

[dnno1]

What in the films gave you the impression that Nolan's Batman could successfully kick The Incredible Hulk in the stomach?

This:

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The fact that Hulk was holding his breath with his eyes closed. That would give Nolan's Batman the chance to kick him in the stomach or somewhere lower than that. He would have had some exoskeletal device to assist him in delivering a kick strong enough to smash a car or something. Don't get me wrong, Nolan's Batman would not have kicked him with just his leg. He would have some type of assistance with from one of his toys along with it to make it more realistic.

 

[dnno1]