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Battle of the Comic Book Films Tournament(2020 Edition)

Ledger elevated TDK just like Thanos elevated IW.

If Ledger's performance was less impressive TDK probably would've been another Batman Begins, great but not necessarily the best.

But I don't think it's fair the say the death is the main reason for TDK's dominance.

Alot of actors have died without boosting a movie they recently starred in.
 
I don't think there's anything respectful about essentially claiming that people who voted for TDK did so because Heath Ledger died.

I'm amused that 12 years later there are still some people that think the fans are so sentimental over an actor's death that they constantly choose TDK as the best. I mean by that silly logic shouldn't Black Panther be winning this or at the very least be in the final vote after the recent sad passing of Chadwick Boseman?
 
The Dark Knight

Infinity War/Endgame combined and treated as one film would be the only way I could have been tempted otherwise.

Logan while great, is not as rewatchable as TDK.
 
I just. don't agree with Loganpool.

That's fine. We don't have to agree. In fact, most people don't agree with my opinions. I'm a free thinker that thinks WAY outside the box. To be honest, a lot of my opinions could be considered controversial. That's just who I am. I question everything. I didn't think this was gonna be one of them though. And if I offended anybody, I sincerely apologize. I hope everybody has a safe and happy Thanksgiving.
 
That's fine. We don't have to agree. In fact, most people don't agree with my opinions. I'm a free thinker that thinks WAY outside the box. To be honest, a lot of my opinions could be considered controversial. That's just who I am. I question everything. I didn't think this was gonna be one of them though. And if I offended anybody, I sincerely apologize. I hope everybody has a safe and happy Thanksgiving.
What? It's just opinions about movies.

My opinion on Joker or Superman: The Movie is not popular either.

Have a great day.
 
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When I watch the Dark Knight I don't think that Heath Ledger died, I'm not one of those who think art value goes up after the artist dies, I think of how awesome the experience of watching this movie is.

And for the fun of it, I'll paraphrase a line Batman spoke in that movie: "This match just showed you.. that it's full of people... ready to believe in awesome"
 
The moment is upon us, the finals.

i will be giving this match up 48 hours so everyone has time to vote. Let's goooooo!

The Final Battle

The Dark Knight
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The Avengers
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VS

Logan
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TDK but Logan is a close second.
 
*cough* My opinion is that, no, The Dark Knight isn't abnormally popular because of Heath Ledgers death. That is silly.

. . . its abnormally popular because it was a high quality DC movie in a time when DC spent a decade failing to produce movies while Marvel was putting out multiple films a year. Then in comes The Dark Knight, Jesus to BB's John the Baptist, to show why DC "really is" the superior comic line after all, thus heralding an era when truth and righteousness once more rules, and where everyone forever after acknowledges the supremacy of DC over Marvel.

( And then the Avengers came out, completely changed the pop culture landscape, and demonstrated that the new benchmark of eternal victory was, in fact, just an outlier spike in quality. And some people have still not forgiven Marvel for that. )
 
*cough* My opinion is that, no, The Dark Knight isn't abnormally popular because of Heath Ledgers death. That is silly.

. . . its abnormally popular because it was a high quality DC movie in a time when DC spent a decade failing to produce movies while Marvel was putting out multiple films a year. Then in comes The Dark Knight, Jesus to BB's John the Baptist, to show why DC "really is" the superior comic line after all, thus heralding an era when truth and righteousness once more rules, and where everyone forever after acknowledges the supremacy of DC over Marvel.

( And then the Avengers came out, completely changed the pop culture landscape, and demonstrated that the new benchmark of eternal victory was, in fact, just an outlier spike in quality. And some people have still not forgiven Marvel for that. )
Marvel vs DC can burn in hell.

I just like other Marvel films more and honestly if I was factoring in impact I would have to elevate certain things I don't want to elevate.

Avengers is a bit of a problem there but nothing compared to other movies...

The forum leans Marvel anyway, so you could hardly claim DC bias.

Zack Snyder saw to this.
 
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The forum leans Marvel anyway, so you could hardly claim DC bias.


All the mods like the MCU the most, that's what gathers the most consensus. The Snyder stuff not so much. I think that's reflected in the majority of users, not just the mods.

Wonder Woman
Shazam
Aquaman

All seem to be popular movies.

Batman in general.

This place started as Spider-Man Hype by the way.

Any bias against The Avengers is a fantasy from my perspective.
 
...At this point, I'm wondering if anyone in this thread who favors Logan/Avengers can do so without harboring some off-the-mark explanation for TDK's popularity.

I just think Logan is a better film overall—from the acting to general pacing. TDK hasn’t held up on repeat viewings when it comes to any scene not including Ledger (with the exception of Two-Face at the very end). Logan also packs the emotional punch that the entire Nolan trilogy was unable to achieve.
 
I just think Logan is a better film overall—from the acting to general pacing. TDK hasn’t held up on repeat viewings when it comes to any scene not including Ledger (with the exception of Two-Face at the very end). Logan also packs the emotional punch that the entire Nolan trilogy was unable to achieve.
Disagree, but Logan deserves consideration as the best comic book movie.
 
I think the fair consensus is that TDK is the best with Logan, SM2, Infinity War, Winter Soldier, and Into the Spider-verse rounding out the top 6.

That's based on other countdowns I've witnessed.

Into the Spider-verse and Infinity War do better in other countdowns.

I think a better system is everyone submit a top 25 and then each movie gets a certain amount of points tallied based on their rankings.
 
I think the fair consensus is that TDK is the best with Logan, SM2, Infinity War, Winter Soldier, and Into the Spider-verse rounding out the top 6.

That's based on other countdowns I've witnessed.

Into the Spider-verse and Infinity War do better in other countdowns.

I think a better system is everyone submit a top 25 and then each movie gets a certain amount of points tallied based on their rankings.
This was the system used for the unbelievably awesome animated TV Tournaments we used to have.
 

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