Battlefield 3 - Part 1

[Wolvieboy17]

Well yea, thats why I never brought it into the arguement at any point. I was clearly talking about the mac. You seem to be taking it as a PC VS Console argument though, no idea why. Well, lets say it is then, why would you pay £1000 for a Mac, that supports very few games and a £200 console, right? When you can pay £400 for a equally or more powerful pc that supports all games and a £200 console? Where is the logic? There is none. It's a fanboy reply.

The logic, dear boy, has just been ignored by you completely. You point would make sense, if it was directed at somebody who has not purchased anything and is weighing up what to do. My point, which you ignored, was at this point, everyone has already decided on a computer. Everyone in this thread obviously already has a computer, either PC or Mac, and/or a console. If whatever platform they have already chosen doesn't allow them to experience the Battlefield 3 computer version in it's proper form, then the cost isn't worth it if that game is the only reason they would want one.

Thats completely subjective and you could factually argue otherwise.
Hell, the post above was basically "i want my game to look like this".

And for someone who doesn't want to turn this into a console vs Computer thing, you're certainly going about it strangely if you're going to suggest there is factual potential to argue console isn't as enjoyable as computer gaming.

Just because you might buy it for Zelda doesn't mean you can buy older or newer games for the platform. I agree though, I would never buy any platform based on a hyped game, I done that a few years back with Metal Gear Solid 2 as I enjoyed the first one. The game was terrible imo.

This was exactly my point. Everyone here has already made up their mind on what platform they wish to game. That's all Pat means and all he's ever meant when he weighs up the pro's and cons of console vs PC, in that it would be too expensive to go to PC (or Mac) after you're already on console.

Sure there are plenty of other titles that are good for computer gaming, but if someone hasn't felt the need to buy whatever they need for computer gaming prior to Battlefield 3, then you can assume that's the only game they're interested in, in which case it isn't worth it.


Anyway, I think console looks good enough for me. The thing I would love to try on computer would simply be the 64 players. I could see that being crazily intense. I'd love to see that on Karg Island.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

The logic, dear boy, has just been ignored by you completely

Actually, even though the original conversation had pretty much nothing do with consoles what-so-ever. Or even Battlefield 3, with no outside point to make. I have replied and continued to reply to your logic out of courtesy.

You point would make sense

But it does make logical sense, he gave an example to get a mac and my argument is that the pc cheaper. It's pretty simple really. That's the argument.

everyone has already decided on a computer. Everyone in this thread obviously already has a computer, either PC or Mac, and/or a console. If whatever platform they have already chosen doesn't allow them to experience the Battlefield 3 computer version in it's proper form, then the cost isn't worth it if that game is the only reason they would want one.

What has this got to do with a pc VS mac value wise? Nothing. And if it did, my point would still stand, a pc is more value for money. If it didn't, the point would still stand.

And for someone who doesn't want to turn this into a console vs Computer thing, you're certainly going about it strangely if you're going to suggest there is factual potential to argue console isn't as enjoyable as computer gaming.

I didn't say that at all. I said you could specifically argue this game is better on the pc with factual evidence. e.g. 64 player, better graphics, faster loading, 60fps, faster loading e.t.c.... Objectively, you can say the pc version is better. You can do that with alot of games. It doesn't automatically mean I claiming outright a platform is better than another. Again though, what exactly has this got to do with the original point? Nothing. I'm replying to your arguments again. It's outragous.

Sure there are plenty of other titles that are good for computer gaming, but if someone hasn't felt the need to buy whatever they need for computer gaming prior to Battlefield 3, then you can assume that's the only game they're interested in, in which case it isn't worth it.

Right, so, whats this got to do with anything? A pc is cheaper than a mac regardless of what it's being used for. A £400 pc will run Battlefield 3 well above console settings. A £1000 mac wont run Battlefield 3 as far as i'm aware. Outside of that for multi-use, they more of less do the exact same thing. The way I see for, there is more value in the pc regardless. Steve Jobs Buddhism didn't seem to help with his price points. Apple products are ridiculously expensive. Much like Adidas, Nike or Mercedes a large part of the price point is in the brand name.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Jesus you're a major butt pain. I was referring to what started this all, which was Balthus and Pat purely talking about the potential of buying a PC or a Mac jsut for the purposes of playing Battlefield 3. You came in saying how much cheaper it would be to get a PC. It doesn't matter whether a PC is only 20 bucks, all I was saying was that any platform is expensive if you're buying it for only one game, which is what Pat and Balthus were saying.

Anything else you have to say about computer gaming, I honestly don't care, I've heard it all before and I know I'll hear it again, it's simply not relevant.

As much as you TRY to be objective, and you may not be aware of this, but every single thing you type about computer gaming simply sounds like you're trying to shove the comp gaming lifestyle down other posters throats.

 

[Master Chief]

lol Spock was responding to the idea that it would be too expensive to get a PC that can run BF3 smoothly. Pat basically said a good PC would cost more than buying a Mac and a console.

Anyways Pat what are your system specs? Coz if you're willing to shop around chances are you might be able to upgrade your PC to run most current games in the $300 price range. If your computer isn't that old you probably just have to upgrade the video card and memory.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Pat's a Mac user, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[Master Chief]

Well that's a bummer. But I guess not playing games is a fair trade when you don't have to deal with drivers and the rest of the BS that comes with Windows hahah.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Well, that's why Pat has said he has a PS3 AND a Mac :P

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Jesus you're a major butt pain. I was referring to what started this all, which was Balthus and Pat purely talking about the potential of buying a PC or a Mac jsut for the purposes of playing Battlefield 3. You came in saying how much cheaper it would be to get a PC.

agree it looks exponentially better, but not for the price it costs to get ur PC there, or to buy a PC that can run it. I mean for that kind of money you are far, far better off getting a Mac and just sticking with a Ps3 or Xbox.

And?
To repeat, yet again. For the price of a fairly low spec mac not used for gaming, or indeed a higher spec used for gaming, that can't or can run Battlefield 3, for that price, a pc that is more powerful than either console, is generally still cheaper. So, how is a mac better value for money? It isn't. The fact of the matter is the console version is at a similar setting to the pc's lowest setting, which can run on a 8800gt. This card is so out-dated it isn't even sold anymore. Basically, a mid end, not a high end pc, can run Battlefield 3 well above the console settings and at a much cheaper price than a spec comparable mac would. Even higher end pc's (like mine) are still cheaper the average price of a mac. Macs are far more expensive than a custom built pc. Regardless of use. What he said was factually wrong. I corrected him. I was objective. The world is now a better place.

Now, what has any of the crap you have said, any of it, got to do with anything? Nothing. Zilch. You are now ranting on about me liking the pc, which you have complained about multiple times now. What other 25 off-road arguments can I expect? None, this argument is over. Your rambunctious attitude has soured this morning forever.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I've soured your morning FOREVER?!? The eternity that is several hours? For that, I am truly sorry.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Actually my whole point was the Mac is just better than the PC. That was pretty much it. But i thought that was common knowledge? Just as the iPod is better than every other MP3 player, the iPhone is the best smart phone on the market and the iPad the best tablet.


I also meant id like to own a gaming PC as its pretty much the only "console" i dont have(the Wii doesn't count), but again, i can't get a PC for the same price of a PS3 and have there be any benefit for it. There aren't any exclusives i like so i wouldn't be willing to pay a lot just to get those incredible visuals, even though they really are amazing.

 

[Paroxysm]

I've never seen someone get so defensive about PC's, it's actually really sad and hilarious all at the same time.

Spock: You needs a chill pill, you're being more annoying than usual.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

It's fair enough to get defensive about PC, I mean, Political Correctness is something we should ALL take note of.

 

[Paroxysm]

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

I wonder when Spock is gonna realize that console gamers don't care what PC/console debates, unlike vice versa.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Yeah....I was just sayin' I wish BF3 was as pretty as the PC version. Didn't mean to start World War 3.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

DICE really needs to do something about boosters. I'm coming across them more and more. It sucks because every time I see someone boost, I'm forced to team kill them and I can only do it so many times before I'm kicked.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

3 games in a row, boosters. One dude had 26,000 points by the end of the match. I killed him. Multiple times.

 

[Balthus Dire]

Oh, God...boosters????? I thought I'd never have to deal with that again after dropping COD.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

Oh, God...boosters????? I thought I'd never have to deal with that again after dropping COD.

Yea, its pathetic.

They just sit at the spawn and shoot and repair their EoD bot.

 

[Paroxysm]

They also need to fix the spawn locations in TDM.

 

[Balthus Dire]

They also need to fix the spawn locations in TDM.

That's why I never play TDM. I tried a few games of it to get some ribbons and see if it was any good, but the spawns were just so ridiculous I don't even have the desire to go back to that.

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

I wonder when Spock is gonna realize that console gamers don't care what PC/console debates, unlike vice versa.

I hate to tell you son, but every single post on the last two pages is me replying to one started by a console user. Maybe it will help in the future if you read threads, it helps alot.
Alternatively you can hold hands and use the power of good. I would still recommend reading though.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

Technically, it wasn't a debate UNTIL you replied to it

 

[Why Are You Crouching Spock?]

Back to Karkand Gameplay Video and Impressions

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Yeah....I was just sayin' I wish BF3 was as pretty as the PC version. Didn't mean to start World War 3.

I wish it was too Gotta wait until next gen for that.