Age of Extinction Bay video on what he wants to do with T3

[omid17]

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[Mr. Earle]

He said it would be more emotional, smaller in scale, with less action...
That is not Michael Bay!!!

Sounds good though. Maybe he heard about the negative reaction ROTF got?

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Bay is awesome. t:

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Bay is a gas bag.

He basically has no idea where to take the franchise. And he never did.

This is what happens when a director has contempt for the material and simply wants to exploit the franchise for coke money. You get a story with no where to go despite a huge established mythos.

Maybe he can give unicron moon sized testicles and have a female character leave the bathroom asking for ass tissue with her pants pulled down.

Bay knows what he's going to do. Make a loud and dumb movie then watch the sheep pour into the theater based on hype.

 

[SuperFerret]

And that's exactly what Transformers is. Big robots punching the crap out of each other.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

I oddly respect Bay all of a sudden. He's like a self aware serial killer, he knows that killing people is bad but does anyway because it traumatizes a lot of people and he'll keep doing it until someone stops him.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

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[MessiahDecoy123]

And that's exactly what Transformers is. Big robots punching the crap out of each other.

Read the comics. Transformers has alot more going for it than simply explosions. You have cyber-punk space opera. It's not like they're just big robots. They're living machines with souls. The storytelling is limited only by your imagination. They have more possible story arcs than you'd find with terminators or agent smiths. There's no reason it has to be a basic giant monster movie when the title characters have honor, fear, hatred, brotherhood, aspirations, dreams, death, a cybernetic history and culture.

The "you can't do anything more with it" is a cop out. As long as it's about an cybernetic civil war you can do just about anything. It doesnt have to be a giant monster movie. The Transformers universe allows for alot broader storytelling. They're basically living soldiers who's civil war expand the universe. The fact that they're machines with souls just makes things more interesting.

 

[SuperFerret]

It's not an issue about not being able to do anything more with it. It's an issue with expectations. For a movie based on a toy line, big action is the most reasonable route to go. Expecting Shakespeare with robots is silly.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Nobody expects Shakespeare. Did you even read my post?

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Transformers allows for more than a giant monster movie because the title characters mirror human conflicts and are living beings with their own society.

It's like saying the blue aliens in Avatar can't be interesting because they're big and blue. In fact anything you see in the Avatar trailer could be put in a Transformers movie. The whole "battle for a worlds resources" angle is perfect for a Transformers movie. The Transformers war for resources is more interesting because it fuels a civil war for intergalactic power.

The fact that Transformers were toys doesn't mean you have to ignore the comics. That's like saying you have to ignore Batman graphic novels because of the Adam West tv series.

Transformers weren't limited to toys anymore than Star Wars or the Avengers.

 

[Brother Jack]

Bay is awesome. t:

If by awesome you mean "a terrible director", then yes, he is.

 

[omid17]

lol

 

[SuperFerret]

Transformers allows for more than a giant monster movie because the title characters mirror human conflicts and are living beings with their own society.

It's like saying the blue aliens in Avatar can't be interesting because they're big and blue. In fact anything you see in the Avatar trailer could be put in a Transformers movie. The whole "battle for a worlds resources" angle is perfect for a Transformers movie. The Transformers war for resources is more interesting because it fuels a civil war for intergalactic power.

The fact that Transformers were toys doesn't mean you have to ignore the comics. That's like saying you have to ignore Batman graphic novels because of the Adam West tv series.

Transformers weren't limited to toys anymore than Star Wars or the Avengers.

You're still expecting way too much for a movie whose source material started as, and is generally seen as and known to be, a toy line.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Why are my expectations considered high by you?

Is there some unwritten rule that if a fictional story has a popular toyline you must ignore all potential explored in the comics???

 

[SuperFerret]

No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that just because someone made The Dark Knight, that you should expect that for EVERY subsequent Batman story.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

But why are you required to expect less?

Seems to me if you know there's untapped potential for a movie it is not unreasonable to expect more.

 

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I assume this is the same video where Bay talks about scaling things down and going into a more darker route.
Interesting that they are focusing more on the story. Perhaps Speilberg did have a talk with Bay about not trying to piss of everyone with negrobots , john turturro's sector 7 manlove and decepticon testicles.

As for him scaling back , i wonder if this has to do with budget issue. Surely a franchise that's able to make 400 million in the US and being a massive hit in the dvd market , wouldn't have any problem to up the budget for the 3rd movie with a tens of millions more.
Or maybe they're just trying to focuse on the bots more and not simply cram up every frame with robots that essentially have no purprose ( skorponok , the kitchen bots..etc)

 

[Ipodman]

He calls it "Tee three"! Lol...

T3: Rise of Unicron

 

[Mr. Earle]

And that's exactly what Transformers is. Big robots punching the crap out of each other.

It's not an issue about not being able to do anything more with it. It's an issue with expectations. For a movie based on a toy line, big action is the most reasonable route to go. Expecting Shakespeare with robots is silly.

You're still expecting way too much for a movie whose source material started as, and is generally seen as and known to be, a toy line.

What is the GiJoe franchise about? Two rival armies duking out for the sole purpose of selling toys. But the GiJoe movie was better than both the TF movies.
Its one thing to be asking for Shakespeare with robots and another when the movie is a pile of smelly ****.

Just because we want a coherent plot, robots that arent at two places at the same time, less explosions, more dialogue, less stupid ghettobots, etc it doesnt mean we re asking for citizen Kane.

 

[Ipodman]

I hope the new robot character designs will be closer to what we remember from the cartoon/comics...
and not just some really complicated looking machine with a Transformer name slapped on it...

 

[SuperFerret]

What is the GiJoe franchise about? Two rival armies duking out for the sole purpose of selling toys. But the GiJoe movie was better than both the TF movies.
Its one thing to be asking for Shakespeare with robots and another when the movie is a pile of smelly ****.

Just because we want a coherent plot, robots that arent at two places at the same time, less explosions, more dialogue, less stupid ghettobots, etc it doesnt mean we re asking for citizen Kane.

From what I've seen, GIJoe was also a fairly dumb action movie. Look, I'm not saying that there shouldn't be a story, I'm just saying that if you're looking for a sophisticated story in either Transformers or GIJoe or even Batman movies, you're setting yourself up to be disappointed. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than morbidly disappointed.

 

[AnorexicBatman]

You disappointed me SuperFerret. Me and everyone who worked to make a movie about a dude dressed a bat fighting a dude dressed as a clown worthy of an Oscar.

The stories are there, they just need to be adapted. Transformers is almost as deep as Star Trek when it comes to science fiction. It's thinking like your's that does not allow a franchise to reach it's true potential.

 

[SuperFerret]

I never said I don't want something to exceed previous expectations, I just don't think that you should expect it, all you do is set yourself up for disappointment.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

If by awesome you mean "a terrible director", then yes, he is.

It always amuses me how people constantly bash Bay and his movies, but still watch them. t: