Discussion in 'Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice' started by Thread Manager, Dec 26, 2013.
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My gut feeling is that is what they are going for. It would create a strong emotional tie between the characters, and give both of them character arcs that are intertwined.
I've got to go for now, but the conversation was fun.
Ditto. I was disappointed at first when this movie was announced because I wanted a Supes sequel. But then I got to thinking about what Batman's inclusion really means. And if done well, it could be such a complex and moving exploration of these characters and how they interact.
I think we could get something like, especially since Terrio is on board to revise the script and he did an excellent job of tightly interlocking characters in that film.
I feel more optimistic about it too now that he's on board. This could be really ****ing good.
Agreed. Bring in JP and BOOM.
That's a BEST MOVIE EVER recipe right there.
Why would they cast a pair of Hype posters in this movie? I mean, they're cool guys, but how do we even know they can act?
I think Affleck knows that people expect him to hog up the spotlight as batman, but he's a comic fan and he understands this is a supes sequel first and foremost.
and with him and Terrio involved with the script, I'm confident that this is gonna be the best DC movie yet. Call me crazy if you want to, but I truly believe it has a chance to be better than TDK.
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I actually think this is a big part of the appeal for many viewers of TDK. Until that film, I doubt much of the GA was aware of his "one rule" and while he doesn't take it to the extremes of how Frank Miller's Batman will do it or how he will save the Joker in Arkham Origins, the fact that he would rather crash than run over the Joker as he guns down citizens, and then later saves Joker from death baffles fans. Nolan's Batman is very much a victim of his psychological need to save everyone...resulting in him finally being forced to confront that issue in an unwinnable situation when he must choose between letting Two-Face kill Jim Gordon's son, or kill Harvey Dent.
However, if you want something a little darker and more violent with a practiced ambivalence, I could see that working. It would certainly be par for the course with Snyder at the helm.
Yeah, I agree. Aside from JL, this is the DC movie I've been waiting on for a long time.
I wasn't sure where to ask this, but since this was slightly brought up a few posts ago in this thread, I wanted to get everyone else's thoughts on this as well....
On a realistic level, how many of Batman's villains would you guys say would be qualified and more than likely to be given the death penalty IF the rules of the real world actually applied to Gotham when it came to their court system. And if so, which villains in particular?
Ben Affleck yet again listed for the Razzies this year for his performance in Runner Runner. This would be his 9th nomination!
Funny, because Affleck's performance is pretty much the only thing people seem to like about that film
Well the Razzie voters clearly thought differently.
like the a previous poster mentioned, Affleck was the most redeemable quality about that movie, that performance further sold me on him being a kickass bruce wayne.
Damn, NINE razzie noms? I wonder what the record is for an actor or actress.
Killer Croc, Black Mask, Ra's Al Ghul and The Joker.
I can't believe that Affleck and Arterton get nominates yet somehow Timberlake escapes!
Vulture actually did an article saying that Runner Runner was the final straw and that Timberlake should quit acting for good. And yet he's not listed here!
I think Timberlake kind of sucks as an actor. I even felt he gave an overly showy performance in The Social Network, which is supposedly his most acclaimed work. It just felt kind of like stunt casting to me.
it makes sense considering how the anti-affleck movement has been going strong for more than a decade now, and Timberlake has escaped any criticism that deserves to go his way.
I'm really hoping he knocks it out of the park in BvS, he is the RDJ of the DC Universe now.
Nonsense. I've said it a zillion times, and people seem to just ignore it...
Bruce Wayne kills a huge number of people in Batman Begins. The "I don't have to save you" logic doesn't hold up when you directly cause the situation from which a person needs saving. In court, Batman would be charged with murduring Ra's, even if it wasn't first degree.
But forget Ra's... He exploads the League of Shadows! He commits arson resulting in the death of untold scores of people- from nameless ninjas to the fake Ra's, to the criminal they asked him to behead (worst of all).
He kills Talia. It may not be murder, but he fires the shots that directly cause her to die from a broken neck.
Batman's kill count in TDKT is probably somewhere between 5 and 50, depending on how many LoS ninjas died in the explosion.
It's possible that this thematic hypocrisy is intentional commentary on how Wayne is capable of justifying things through mental gymnastics, but I think it's more than likely an example of lazy, hollow writing.
Lots to like about TDKT but it is thematically bankrupt, and is less realistic than the 89 Batman by far.
^ Let's see.
TDK trilogy deathcount..by Bruce.
1.The league of Shadows explosion (fake ra's DEFINITELY dies, and Ducard has a MUCH smaller army when the LOS returns.) That's over 1.
2. Ra's is left in a train to die. At least two, so far.
3. The truck driver probably bought the farm.
4. Even assuming he didn't, Two face had to die. 3-4
5. He totally cause Talia to wreck her vehicle and die. 1.
Okay, so about five deaths (four of the truck driver survived), with the final film having the lowest body count. Not counting all the people who were lost in the fire. That would probably put the tally over ten-from someone whose no-kill code is stated repeatedly throughout the course of a trilogy.