Ben Affleck IS Bruce Wayne/Batman - Part 1

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He's not gonna drop out as an actor now, if he wasn't happy I'm pretty sure he'd have dropped out all together now rather than waste everyone's time.

It's a possibility. He spent months ensuring everyone he was directing.

Pretend this isn't Batman for a second. Is the idea of the guy leaving completely really so out of the question?
 
He'll be leaving sooner than we initially assumed. The whole endeavor hasn't really benefited him in any way (outside of some extra money) and in many ways set him back on all the hard work he achieved in his directing career.

You could tell from interviews that his heart doesn't seem to be in it anymore.
 
Wait, how are you so sure Affleck is gonna walk out of the role?

Sure, it's a possibility at this point, but I don't see how him not directing the movie automatically equals "He'll be leaving sooner than we initially assumed".
 
He'll be leaving sooner than we initially assumed. The whole endeavor hasn't really benefited him in any way (outside of some extra money) and in many ways set him back on all the hard work he achieved in his directing career.

You could tell from interviews that his heart doesn't seem to be in it anymore.

There was some article stating he earned 30m+from BvS. Not enough to soften that heart tho. First world problems.
 
Wait, how are you so sure Affleck is gonna walk out of the role?

Sure, it's a possibility at this point, but I don't see how him not directing the movie automatically equals "He'll be leaving sooner than we initially assumed".

Oh, no guarantee at all. Hell, it's not even that likely. But his departure as director, and the continued rumblings of problems with the DCEU as a whole, make it a little more likely than before.
 
Oh, no guarantee at all. Hell, it's not even that likely. But his departure as director, and the continued rumblings of problems with the DCEU as a whole, make it a little more likely than before.

Which is too say, still very unlikely, so why waste time on it.
 
He'll be leaving sooner than we initially assumed. The whole endeavor hasn't really benefited him in any way (outside of some extra money) and in many ways set him back on all the hard work he achieved in his directing career.

You could tell from interviews that his heart doesn't seem to be in it anymore.

I don't understand how that even applies. If anything, his portrayal of Batman alone redeemed the stank of Daredevil. He's been in one film, and cameo'd in another, and both times his portrayal was praised. In terms of his directing career getting set back, what? He didn't direct anything yet in the DCEU, and his last directorial work was Live By Night, which has nothing to do with DCEU. If anything, his continued association with Batman is keeping him in a positive light.
 
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I still dont know why some folks keep bringing up Snyder.

He wont direct this.

His own wife has stated he will take a break after JL.
 
Which is too say, still very unlikely, so why waste time on it.

Because it's a valid thing to discuss, if you're not sticking your head in the sand? For those of us who believe the DCEU has been one poorly judged misstep after the other, the idea of Affleck thinking the same thing privately is not such a strange idea - and nor is the idea that he may feel that staying part of the project is not a good idea for him creatively. Look, I'd love it if the DCEU was better, and had been relatively smooth sailing all of this time, but it hasn't been. The prospect of Affleck bailing is a possible one, and therefore a decent point of discussion and argument.
 
Oh, no guarantee at all. Hell, it's not even that likely. But his departure as director, and the continued rumblings of problems with the DCEU as a whole, make it a little more likely than before.

Oh I agree. I was just responding to Pfeiffer's statement, is all.
 
Because it's a valid thing to discuss, if you're not sticking your head in the sand? For those of us who believe the DCEU has been one poorly judged misstep after the other, the idea of Affleck thinking the same thing privately is not such a strange idea - and nor is the idea that he may feel that staying part of the project is not a good idea for him creatively. Look, I'd love it if the DCEU was better, and had been relatively smooth sailing all of this time, but it hasn't been. The prospect of Affleck bailing is a possible one, and therefore a decent point of discussion and argument.

and I rebut with a why obsess over something not likely to happen when after its been discussed already you could talk about something else that actually has a possibility, like which director will it get.

Especially because he has already given us his answer in no uncertain terms, an answer that matches up with previous statements.
 
It's a possibility. He spent months ensuring everyone he was directing.

Pretend this isn't Batman for a second. Is the idea of the guy leaving completely really so out of the question?

Of course not but I think given his relationship with WBs he'll still star.
 
and I rebut with a why obsess over something not likely to happen when after its been discussed already you could talk about something else that actually has a possibility, like which director will it get.

Especially because he has already given us his answer in no uncertain terms, an answer that matches up with previous statements.

Fine. I think you're in serious denial, but carry on... I won't mention it again.
 
Saying posters are in denial is pathetic.

As is denigrating somebody's opinion and thoughts when they doesn't agree with yours. He's impolite, then so am I. Valid subject of discussion. Wrong to shut it down because it doesn't agree with your world view.
 
Now that Affleck isn't going to save the DCEU anymore, let's look towards the Rock now :funny: The guy is known to boost franchises by just being attached
 
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Now that Affleck isn't going to save the DCEU anymore, let's look towards the Rock now :funny: The guy is known to boost franchises by just being attached

Snyder [x]
Affleck [x]
Terrio [x]
David Ayer [x]

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I can't help wondering if maybe he's just playing a little hardball. David Lynch initially dropped out of Twin Peaks series 3 and then signed back on once he was happy with what the network offered. I realise a big studio like WB and a TV network aren't really on an even keel and a few other directors have dropped out of DC movies already, but he's a bigger deal than Seth Grahame-Smith, Rick Famuyiwa or Michelle MacLaren, and is more likely to hold a little sway with the studio. I mean, the guy clearly seemed passionate about making the best Batman movie he could, and he's a long time fan of the character, so to seemingly abruptly drop out so close to production seems a little jarring.
 
So Ben Affleck went from dropping out as director to dropping out of the DCEU entirely? That's pretty fast even by the Hype forum's standard. :o
 
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I'm not shocked Ben isn't directing the solo, but I'd be pretty shocked if he left the DCEU all together. I don't think there's any reason to. Audiences seem to love him as the character.
 
So Ben Affleck went from dropping out as director to dropping out of the DCEU entirely? That's pretty fast even by the Hype forum's standard. :o

That all came from Mark Hughes' article over at Forbes where he was basically thinking out loud about some sources he refused to listen to, so it was basically stemming from nothing. Of course, it manifests into rumors on clickbait sites of Affleck leaving entirely. Unfortunately, everything Ben said about still being onboard (directing) and excited to focus entirely on bringing The Batman to life is going to be met with moans because just last week, Affleck talked about how everything was a go, so, who knows what the real intentions and stories are that are mounting about Affleck.
 
But, wait, hold on, I'm not entirely convinced that behind the scenes drama is the reason he dropped out. Call me naive but I'm taking Affleck's words at face value. Isnt it possible that he realized, "s***, this is gonna be a near insurmountable task for me, I wanna do this, but can I juggle this many balls without ****ing it up?" Especially in light of Live By Night, Affleck's gotta be feeling a little defeated inside and may just not have the mental amd physical energy to write, direct AND star in another film, one thats gonna have a big budget and featuring a character so many people are attached to.

He said it himself in one of his many off the cuff interviews (im paraphrasing) " making a mediocre Batman movie is not an option." I think Affleck just maybe realized that its better for the film if he is not under all this pressure and he can focus on just being an amazing Batman. I dont necessarily believe that him dropping out is a result of heated behind the scenes arguments with the suits. If that did happen, I think he'd just peace out all together.

I'm gonna go right and say it, if anything WE drove Affleck away from this. The guy's only human and you just KNOW all that annoying badgering from the press wore him down and got him frustrated. I think he had a moment of clarity where he simply said "I dont think im up for this."
 
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