Ben Affleck To Team With DC’s Geoff Johns On Standalone ‘Batman’ Film - Part 5

[OutOfBoose]

Bruce's physical age is unrelated to the story they were telling.

 

[Greenlite]

Just a question, how old is that Tom Brady guy who just won his fifth championship?

How old was David Ortiz when he spanked the pitchers around the park last season?

And Usain Bolt just mauled down how many runners 10 years younger than him in Rio?

Then there were Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling

 

[BH/HHH]

BATGOD is super boring. Seems like some people are happy with that. Not this guy. The point of Batman is not to just be vulnerable when around monsters and aliens.

I agree with that, I don't mind him been the smartest guy in the room but he seems to have contingencies for everything in some versions (Batman in the DCAU got ridiculous by the end). It's like when they made Superman too powerful in the pre crisis days, it just gets boring. You make them unstoppable and you are unable to create any tension whatsoever. Sure we know the hero will win by the end but you need to go through some drama before you get to that point.

 

[Nardz937]

Just a question, how old is that Tom Brady guy who just won his fifth championship?

How old was David Ortiz when he spanked the pitchers around the park last season?

And Usain Bolt just mauled down how many runners 10 years younger than him in Rio?

Then there were Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling

Also, John Cena is 40 years-old and recently won his 16th World Championship.

 

[idiot09]

The guy was helpless AF against Doomsday. This Batman aint overpowered. He got knocked out by one parademon punch.

 

[shauner111]

Just a question, how old is that Tom Brady guy who just won his fifth championship?

How old was David Ortiz when he spanked the pitchers around the park last season?

And Usain Bolt just mauled down how many runners 10 years younger than him in Rio?

Then there were Randy Johnson and Curt Schilling

Again, they don't do what Bruce does every night in his fictional world.

 

[shauner111]

I agree with that, I don't mind him been the smartest guy in the room but he seems to have contingencies for everything in some versions (Batman in the DCAU got ridiculous by the end). It's like when they made Superman too powerful in the pre crisis days, it just gets boring. You make them unstoppable and you are unable to create any tension whatsoever. Sure we know the hero will win by the end but you need to go through some drama before you get to that point.

Exactly. I'm not just going out of my way to crap on everything this universe has to offer, because I feel like they nailed Supermans level of power. Batman is fine for the most part but it takes me out of the film when I see Batman having 3 huge fights without ant breathing room, moving around like a champ each time and taking bullets to tbe head (and just grunting it off). Everytime I see a clip from the warehouse scene (one of the scenes I still like from the movie), I just think "BATGOD". Writers usually do this so he can match the heroes around him or even the fantastical villains. He struggled with Doomsday but he was incredibly quick, never seemed out of breath. I liked that he didn't do much damage and was running away. But there's also times when they could written in a scene where he was useful on a non-physical level.

Another thing was the training montage. Which felt like an excuse for Zack to show muscles in his movies. He admitted that the mecha suit is all about survival. Bruce should be working on speed instead of power. The suit does everything and isn't about strength anyway because no matter how buff he gets, it's nothing to Supes. At least make him favor some of his body, cuz you know, he's getting up there in age.

I prefer a Batman who struggles with some rabid dogs, or gets blindsided by the Joker or whatever the case may be. Technology or not, he's a man, and that's the most interesting thing about the character. He's not like the rest of the Justice League. So don't power him up in order to make the character feel as special. Treat him the way he truly is.

 

[The Batman]

Also, John Cena is 40 years-old and recently won his 16th World Championship.

Lol, Pro wrestling is not a legit sport. Cena did not earn those championships by being better than anyone else. He is playing a role, and the company hands him a fake championship as part of playing that role.

 

[metaphysician]

That does seem a little farfetched, but in all honesty I'd expect some writer to give Batman that same type of ability.

Its more than far-fetched, it flat out shouldn't have worked. Kyle's ring literally *didn't* work for anyone but Kyle. He could hand it to you to put on your own finger, and it wouldn't do a damn thing for you.

Which is to say, like the rest of Identity Crisis, that fight was utter nonsense and should not be taken to mean anything other than "terrible writing happens." Using it as evidence basically destroys whatever argument you are making.

 

[Zero_Effect]

lol I like how some are arguing the realistic nature of a fictional character...

 

[Da-Scribe]

Yeah I ain't t reading these walls of text. Batman is physically a beast. It's never depicted otherwise. Not worth arguing about.

 

[BH/HHH]

Lol, Pro wrestling is not a legit sport. Cena did not earn those championships by being better than anyone else. He is playing a role, and the company hands him a fake championship as part of playing that role.

I think he was been sarcastic.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Just wait till Batman encounters Swamp Thing and drenches him in Weed-B-Gone.

Has Bats ever met Swamp thing?

 

[shauner111]

Lol, Pro wrestling is not a legit sport. Cena did not earn those championships by being better than anyone else. He is playing a role, and the company hands him a fake championship as part of playing that role.

I agree with you that it's an irrelevant comparison to make. But in reality, it is a legit sport, it's just that it's scripted. They're still athletes/entertainers. And the reason why a character/talent is given the title by the company is because the company believes that the person earned the spot to carry the company on his or her shoulders (as well as for storyline purposes but it's mainly to do with what I said). So you can say that Cena "earned" it. In Vince McMahon's eyes anyway, which is debatable lol.

But yes, I know what you're saying.

All of the comparisons are irrelevant because they're not going through what Bruce supposedly goes through on a nightly basis. Having his life at stake every night for 20 years. Fictional character or not, the Batfleck is unrealistic in how he moves and handles situations at his age.

 

[Broseph44]

Some of the posts in here

 

[Da-Scribe]

If this were realistic Batman would've been in jail already. It's inherently fantastical.

 

[Patchwork Man]

Has Bats ever met Swamp thing?

The Bat has tangled with Swamp Thing on several occasions.

The first time was during the great 1970s Wein/Wrightson run. In #7, "Night of the Bat," ST and Batman are both looking for the same guy, the big cheese of a criminal organization named Mr. E. "Mystery"...haha, geddit?

The second time was during Alan Moore's epic run (with equally epic art by Steve Bissette and John Totleben), in #53, when Abigail was in GCPD custody and ST went into full Swamp-god mode and turned Gotham into one giant exhibit with about as much effort as it takes you to sharpen a pencil. Awesome story. If ST ever gets back into film, this issue would make a great basis for the third film.

Look at the people by his feet.

 

[shauner111]

If this were realistic Batman would've been in jail already. It's inherently fantastical.

So one major thing is unrealistic, so everything else must not have common sense or reality? That's always such a lazy defense. What's next, wellll nobody would dress as a bat sooooo..we can dismiss everything else!

 

[Patchwork Man]

Yeah I ain't t reading these walls of text. Batman is physically a beast. It's never depicted otherwise. Not worth arguing about.

I recall reading a story where Batman and a certain important character owned by another publisher faced off, and the "fight" ended in a draw with both knowing there'd be no point to continue. They knew neither would emerge the victor.

 

[Greenlite]

Again, they don't do what Bruce does every night in his fictional world.

lol I like how some are arguing the realistic nature of a fictional character...

Bat is fictional but him kicking thugs ass at 45 y/o is unrealistic

 

[BlueLanternKal]

He can fight space aliens, werewolves, mutants, and metahumans. But fighting at 45 is where the line is drawn. Never mind that George Foreman won the title back as an old ass man or that Bernard Hopkins was unbeatable at around 40 years old.

Not only is Batman fictional, but he traveled the globe for 7 years picking up more than 120 different martial arts and techniques from the greatest masters alive.

He's 45 so he can't fight anymore.

 

[Da-Scribe]

So one major thing is unrealistic, so everything else must not have common sense or reality? That's always such a lazy defense. What's next, wellll nobody would dress as a bat sooooo..we can dismiss everything else!

It's called suspension of disbelief. There's no way that Batman could've lasted more than a year with what you're suggesting. It's ridiculous and does not make sense for this universe.

 

[shauner111]

What am I suggesting?

 

[shauner111]

He can fight space aliens, werewolves, mutants, and metahumans. But fighting at 45 is where the line is drawn. Never mind that George Foreman won the title back as an old ass man or that Bernard Hopkins was unbeatable at around 40 years old.

Not only is Batman fictional, but he traveled the globe for 7 years picking up more than 120 different martial arts and techniques from the greatest masters alive.

He's 45 so he can't fight anymore.

Why are you insisting on not reading properly? I never said he's too old to fight. I said they should show him struggling a little bit.

 

[Da-Scribe]

I ain't playing this game.