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Discussion in 'Misc. Films' started by Tg11, Aug 29, 2015.

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Favorite Die Hard film

  1. Die Hard

  2. Die Hard 2

  3. Die Hard With a Vengeance

  4. Live Free or Die Hard

  5. A Good Day to Die Hard

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  1. Octoberist point blank

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    The idea of another Die Hard at this point kinda makes wanna throw up. Bruce could barely run in the 5th movie. It was just close-up shots of him shooting guns.

    And no, no more Gruber relatives please. It's been done before (well in the third movie).
     
  2. STARMAN Rebel With A Cause

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    I guess I'm one of the few that likes Die Hard 2 more than the third and fourth film. Though I enjoyed those movies overall too.

    You can see the natural decline in stretching the original concept out to five films although only the last one is truly terrible, IMO.
     
  3. STARMAN Rebel With A Cause

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    The first two movies have plots based on novels. Just in case anyone is interested.
     
  4. Tg11 Registered

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    With a Vengeance had it all, great villain with Jeremy Irons playing Alan Rickman's brother Hans' brother Simon and Simon he was calculating but also methodical but also McClane having to match wits with Simon too but also what made it great was Samuel L Jackson
     
  5. Supernova Registered

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    I find myself watching vegeance more as time has gone on. Something about him and jackson working together to stop a terorist in new york worked for me. The first is classic of course.
     
  6. Daywalker89 Blood's thicker than water

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    Agreed, they need to let this franchise die now. That pile of garbage was the final nail in the coffin. The thought of jai courtney turning up again makes my stomach churn aswell. There is nothing more to be done with this series, if a 6th film gets the green light then the world has come to an end lol
     
  7. Spider-Aziz Dummy Dragon Holo

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    I think 3 and 4 are based on novels as well.
     
  8. Lord All Mighty

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    5 was the first Die Hard movie whose script actualy started as a Die Hard.
     
  9. STARMAN Rebel With A Cause

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    Yeah. Die Hard was based on a novel called Nothing Lasts Forever by Roderick Thorpe. The protagonist is Joe Lealand. They actually made a movie with that character starring Frank Sinatra called the Detective.

    The second movie is based on the novel 58 Minutes by Walter Wager.

    The third movie came from a spec script called Simple Simon and was turned into a Die Hard film.

    The Fourth film was inspired by an article in Wired magazine and I believe a script called WW3.

    At least I think that's all correct.
     
  10. Zantera Registered

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    Definitely the first. How is that even a question?
     
  11. Maximus 36 Registered

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    Never knew that existed! I definitely prefer that ending. Thanks for letting us know!
     
  12. Loki882 Registered

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    If they're going to do a 6th (and hopefully final) one, then give it to someone with actual talent. Why, after the (surprising) success of LFODH, they thought to themselves "lets get John Moore and Skip Woods, they're the people to carry this franchise forward into the future" is something that I'll never understand.

    Oh and give MEW a bigger role this time.
     
  13. henry_9305 Registered

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    I heard that the script of With a Vengeance was originally written for Lethal Weapon 3 or 4. The writer said the first hour of the movie is exactly the same as his original script except changing the characters.
     
  14. STARMAN Rebel With A Cause

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    Yeah. Supposedly the spec script was given consideration for Lethal Weapon 4 but was not originally written for that franchise either.
     
  15. Teelie Jokerface

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    As I have heard it, the script for Die Hard Five was specifically written to be a Die Hard movie whereas no previous script was originally intended for that purpose.
     
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    A new tower 30 years later would be like "Speed 2" on a boat. It's been done before the first time.

    Why not stick McClane in a new shopping mall looking for presents?
     
  17. Tg11 Registered

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    McClane in a shopping mall that is something, him taking on bad guys in a shopping mall especially at Christmastime that would be something to do especially putting him in a scenario where he is on his own with no help from no sidekicks or nothing similar to the first Die Hard where he was all on his own
     
  18. Loki882 Registered

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    I like him better with a sidekick honestly. It's more fun to see Willis play off of someone, especially these days. And he's ALWAYS had "sidekicks:"

    -DH-Sgt. Powell.
    -DH2-Fred Thompson and that engineer guy.
    -DH3-Zeus Carver.
    -DH4-Matthew Ferrell.
    -DH5-Jack McClane.

    Honestly I want a full-on team up between him and Lucy (since we didn't really get that in DH4 and he's never really had a female ally before).
     
  19. Tg11 Registered

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    Die Hard 6 if it gets the greenlight if he were to team up with his daughter Lucy then where does that leave Jack? But for Holly she should definitely return to the franchise though, McClane's ex-wife there would obviously still be some love there
     
  20. superboy13 Farmboy

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    I was incredibly bored one day and wrote a treatment where Lucy gets the whole family together for Christmas dinner because she has big news for them. They go to this big restaurant atop of a 5-star hotel where some big political thing is also taking place. So we start with family dinner (Holly, Matt, Jack, Lucy and John) until **** goes down. Y'know, wrong place, wrong time, McClane style.

    Here's some dialog bits for *****s and giggles:

    JOHN is at the RECEPTIONIST’s DESK. He’s UPSET.
    JOHN: Well, check again!
    HOLLY, JACK, LUCY and MATT walk up to him.
    RECEPTIONIST: I’m telling you, there’s nothing under-
    HOLLY: Reservation’s under “Gennero”.
    JOHN (to Holly): Why Gennero?
    RECEPTIONIST: Ah, here it is. Table six. Follow me.
    They do.
    JOHN: There’s three McClanes here, only one Gennero.
    MATT (to Lucy): And me.
    LUCY (to John): And Matt.
    JOHN (to Holly): And the kid.
    MATT: Older than your son, actually.
    Jack GLANCES at Matt.
    MATT: B-but shorter. Weaker, too.

    McCLANE: Gennero-Farrell? Is this a joke?
    LUCY: I already changed it to Gennero years ago, I can’t change it back to McClane, Dad.
    McCLANE: But Farrell? (to Matt) No offense.
    MATT: Taken.
    LUCY: I knew you’d make a fuss.
    McCLANE: My own daughter doesn’t want my name...
    HOLLY: John...
    McCLANE (to Jack): You’re still McClane, right?
    JACK: Off-duty, sure.
    McCLANE: See?
    A beat.
    McCLANE: Off-duty?
    JACK: The Agency assigns us fake IDs for field operations.
    McCLANE: What’s your “field operations” name?
    JACK: It doesn’t really matter.
    McCLANE: No, come on, we all wanna know.
    MATT: I don’t.
    HOLLY: Let it go, John. Enough.
    JACK: It’s Johnson.
    McCLANE: You’re an agent Johnson? Goddammit, Jack.

    And the last scene:

    JACK and MATT are taking a badly injured JOHN to an ambulance. HOLLY and LUCY walk next to them.
    LUCY: Uh, night’s kinda ruined now, but... I had something to tell you.
    JOHN: Can it wait until tomorrow, honey?
    LUCY: Mom, dad... I’m pregnant.
    JOHN and JACK GLANCE at Matt.
    MATT: Did I bang my head? ‘Cause I’m seeing double...
    HOLLY hugs Lucy TIGHT.
    HOLLY: Congratulations, honey!
    JOHN leans on Matt.
    MATT: Hey, hey, John, buddy... look, uh, let’s take a moment here, huh?
    John PATS Matt on the shoulder. He half-smiles. Also could be wincing in pain.
    JOHN: At least someone will play with those dolls of yours.
    MATT: They’re COLLECTIBLE ACTION FIGURES and so NOT for playing-
    John limps his way to LUCY and hugs her. Jack puts his hand on his sister’s shoulder, smiling.
    JOHN (to Lucy’s ear): Him?
    JACK: Uncle Jack, huh?
    Lucy LAUGHS. She jokingly slaps John.
    LUCY: Dad...
    JOHN: I’m proud of ya, kiddo.
    John sits on the back of the ambulance. Two paramedics walk up to him. They’re all standing around John as the camera PULLS AWAY.
    JOHN: Can I get my morphine now?

    Also, John has two cats in his apartment: Hans and Simon.


    I know, I know. Fan fiction, huh? I'll shut up now.
     
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    I love it, I really really loved it but then they would all have to go up against a villain it wouldn't be Die Hard without a villain
     
  22. superboy13 Farmboy

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    Oh, they do! That hotel where a political thingie is happening? That's where you introduce the villain and **** goes down.

    I just found another little scene buried in my hard drive:

    WAITER is standing next to the MCCLANE’s table.
    HOLLY: ...and I’ve never seen your father so upset before! Not since The Lion King, anyway.
    Everyone laughs.
    JOHN (to Matt): What’s so funny.
    Matt looks at the rest. “Why me?”
    MATT: Dude, you cried at a kids movie.
    JOHN (as he laughs): I can hurt you.
    Matt stops laughing. He’s right.
    WAITER: Sorry to interrupt, will you order any pre-dinner drinks?
    MATT: Uh, sure, (points at Lucy), two sprinkled waters-
    Jack looks at John. They smile.
    MATT (CONT’D): and... Holly?
    HOLLY: Make it three.
    JACK: Just beer.
    JOHN: Atta boy. Scotch for me.
    LUCY: Dad. I thought you’d quit.
    JOHN: Didn’t stick.

    (there's an earlier scene that I can't find where John is smoking outside the hotel and Holly tells him she thought he'd quit and he gave the same response)
     
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    - oh they'd have him team up with a shy blonde Verizon sales person. She'd help him with phones and communication

    She'd make a joke about his flip phone

    McClane would say his son-in-law has been nagging him about getting a new phone

    At the end mcClane has his present for Lucy but it's ripped to pieces. He used the stuff animal to conceal a gun

    McClane- you think she'll still take it?

    Verizon sales lady- she accepted you right?

    Frank Sinatra Christmas song plays
     
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    The female blonde could be his sidekick but mostly he would go at it alone against the bad guys picking them off one by one like how he did in the first Die Hard but one of the hostages in the mall could be either his ex-wife Holly or his daughter Lucy
     
  25. AVEITWITHJAMON Badass Cloud

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    If we do get a DH6, I hope from the start they take it more seriously than they did 5. From the director announcement onwards we knew that one was going to be poor.
     

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