Best season of Smallville?

[Serene]

Yeah, so what's your point? I never said she wasn't justified in her actions storylinewise. What I was saying that as Lex was trying to reconcile with Clark, she happened to call. Now we really know what came between the two, was it the fact that Clark stands for truth, justice and all that stuff and Lex stands for pure evil but no I was wrong it was actually Lana Lang

Because she made a phone call???

Either we have serious miscommunication issues, or your arguments make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Meh. Moving on.

 

[avidreader]

nah, it was just my turn not to get it..

LOL! I have a reputation.

 

[Obsidian]

Last season. The worst were probably the 3rd and 4th. I'm sick of the FOTWs. I don't want to see them return. Kryptonian villians are much more interesting and more enduring than the angry kids who got superpowers from Kryptonite.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Yeah, so what's your point? I never said she wasn't justified in her actions storylinewise. What I was saying that as Lex was trying to reconcile with Clark, she happened to call. Now we really know what came between the two, was it the fact that Clark stands for truth, justice and all that stuff and Lex stands for pure evil but no I was wrong it was actually Lana Lang



What other toothpicks are there, everything else thats come between them they've always talked about it and sorted it out, I mean Clark can get past that he investigated him for 3 years but not that he fancies Lana

A girl can really set the fire for 2 rivals. Shiiiet ask Nas and Jay-Z (Carmen), Big and Pac (Faith) lol. You know dudes stay getting mad over poo-tang lol

 

[TKodami]

A girl can really set the fire for 2 rivals. Shiiiet ask Nas and Jay-Z (Carmen), Big and Pac (Faith) lol. You know dudes stay getting mad over poo-tang lol

I gotta agree with SL on this one. Lana's not the only cause of rivalry between Clark and Lex, but a girl can easily come between two men, let alone (ex)friends. And they can stay pissed about it for a looong time. Even if their hatred may stem from some other place, they'll fixate on the girl. Just how it is sometimes.

Does it sound like I'm talking about it from experience?

 

[Brainiac 8]

Last season. The worst were probably the 3rd and 4th. I'm sick of the FOTWs. I don't want to see them return. Kryptonian villians are much more interesting and more enduring than the angry kids who got superpowers from Kryptonite.

What's funny about this is that out of the five seasons, season three had the smallest FOW ratio.

Plus if done correctly, FOW episodes are not always that bad. Some of them are pretty darn good actually.

 

[Brainiac 8]

GRRRR....stupid lag.

 

[TKodami]

What's funny about this is that out of the five seasons, season three had the smallest FOW ratio.

Plus if done correctly, FOW episodes are not always that bad. Some of them are pretty darn good actually.

Mortal for example. Gone and Blank for further evidence.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

I'd rather see Clark fight FOTW than have him hold back like in the movie and not even throw a punch and just float like Jesus....

Yeah...I'm being scandalous and what?

 

[TKodami]

I'd rather see Clark fight FOTW than have him hold back like in the movie and not even throw a punch and just float like Jesus....

Yeah...I'm being scandalous and what?

Why can't he float like Jesus and then punch the crap out of a FotW? That would easily be my favorite epsiode ever if they do that. up:

 

[Brainiac 8]

Mortal for example. Gone and Blank for further evidence.

Stray, Ryan, Fragile, Hourglass, Hug, Heat, Whisper, X-Ray, Visitor...just to name a few excellent episodes that were FOW episodes.

I'd rather see Clark fight FOTW than have him hold back like in the movie and not even throw a punch and just float like Jesus....

Yeah...I'm being scandalous and what?

Preach it!

 

[avidreader]

The interesting thing about the FOTW is that they are all sporned from Clark. Each and every one of them relates directly back to him and it gives him that extra incentive to set things right. What he sees in most of them is what he shouldnt be and he is also like the father of them teaching them to use their powers for good.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

A girl can really set the fire for 2 rivals. Shiiiet ask Nas and Jay-Z (Carmen), Big and Pac (Faith) lol. You know dudes stay getting mad over poo-tang lol

Yeah a girl can, but a girl shouldn't be the reason for the hatred between Superman and Lex Luthor.

Because she made a phone call???

Either we have serious miscommunication issues, or your arguments make absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Meh. Moving on.

My arguments make perfect sense, if you don't know what they mean then that means one of three things:

1) You are ******ed

2) You are to blind in your love for the show you can't find fault in it

3) You can see the fault but just won't admii it to yourself.

I'm betting it's either two or three because if it's one I just wasted a few minutes of my life with this post.

In smallville everything is perfectly placed, if Lex gets a phone call from Lana while he's trying to reconcile with Clark, it a pretty safe assumption that they're implying that Lana is a key factor in the splintering of their relationship.

 

[Billy Batson]

I only chose season two because it has "Rosetta." That's the episode that solidified me as a Smallville fan.

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Thing is you gotta look at like this: First off Lex and Clark cant just wake up one day and be like "Hey I'm Evil" and "Hey I fight for Truth and Justice and all that stuff" (**** the Amerikkkan way) there's a progression to it. True this could be done without Lana but the show is called Smallville and throughout the history of Superman Lana Lang played a pretty major part at that stage in his life. Now if your gonna make show called Smallville obviously your gonna have to involved her in the show. We know this.
But know I do somewhat agree with some of the complaints of the "Fans" (and I use that term cautiously but that's another slice of pizza) that she's has been written in a very bad way into the show's structure (spefically the arc in season 4) however with that said I personally think it has less to with them placing an emphasis on her centrally to the show rather than what they place her in is bad storylines specifally again the Season 4 arc.
With that said I think this current position is much better if you look at the historical viewpoint of the show rather than just Superman ( I agree its hard because how these character's lives reach but this is about the journey). By looking at it like that the show in it's final couple seasons looks like it's coming full circle and (hopefully) focusing on the 3 main characters (because irrespective of our likes or dislikes of them they are the main 3). And the dynamics and stakes are a little bit more higher than a Dawson Creek generic WB love triangle because each one is now at the next stage in there life (Lex more darker, Clark maturiing picking up on his abilities).
To me this leads to 3 positive and intresting options. First, your putting Lana in a much better central storyline that relates to the mythology is an improvement rather than Witches, Vampires and such and such. From there you got 2 things: Firstly from the aspect that Lana breaks from Lex-Zod and goes to Clark and finally (at will at this point) finds out his secret. Suddenly things become more clear and perspective. And this has to happen. Lana finding about Clark's Secret is almost iconic because it allows Clark to have the confidence to move foward and embrace his destiny without the hangups and secrets that reserved him prior. For Lana it allows her to have a friend for life and be the first to understand the value of Superman in this world. And this isnt a Smallville thing this is something that bridges the gap in the Superman mythos.
But then the option is she stays with Lex and thats intresting to take a bold and different approach (and theres nothing with changing an altering mythologies so much as long as the basic stay, which they are). In the comics Lex becomes president and Pete Ross is VP and he's married to Lana. Now we aint got Pete so what if Lana stays with Lex? That adds an interesting element because throughout the show we've seen Lex become darker and evil but there's that element of good (or not good but rather a sign of hope) if Lana is his only positive it makes him a more interesitng and complex villian who's struggling and that adds a further element of tragedy (bad relationship with his pops, dead mom etc) and villians like are always interesting when you add a complexity and mulit-dimesion. Especially the tragedy of loss of innocence that may still linger ( Killing Joke as a para-example)
So it works well. Obviously I say this as a Lana fan but I know I would rather see this than the same old Clana stuff or the witch/vampire story it's part of the journey to the mythos and places the characters well.
As far as things being perfectly placed, it's a superhero show on the WB not exactly 24 you have to have a certain amout of suspended disbelief when watching various genres of ficiton.

When you look at it like that *shrug* there's really nothing to be mad or even resort to insulting other people in this thread...it's just TV

 

[Serene]

My arguments make perfect sense, if you don't know what they mean then that means one of three things:

1) You are ******ed

2) You are to blind in your love for the show you can't find fault in it

3) You can see the fault but just won't admii it to yourself.

I'm betting it's either two or three because if it's one I just wasted a few minutes of my life with this post.

In smallville everything is perfectly placed, if Lex gets a phone call from Lana while he's trying to reconcile with Clark, it a pretty safe assumption that they're implying that Lana is a key factor in the splintering of their relationship.

1) Your spelling sucks.
2) Your grammar sucks.
3) You're rude, and your points are nonsensical.

4) Plonk.

 

[NHawk19]

1) Your spelling sucks.
2) Your grammar sucks.
3) You're rude, and your points are nonsensical.

4) Plonk.

LMAO how do you argue with that?

 

[The Kid]

one of them was extremely good... I think it was season 3.

 

[Jack O Lantern]

1) Your spelling sucks.
2) Your grammar sucks.
3) You're rude, and your points are nonsensical.

4) Plonk.

They're not nonsensical, anybody with any sense can tell that the reason Lana happened to call at that time was to symbolise that she is playing a major factor in the splintering of their relationship. If that's not the reason give me the real reason.

As for my grammar and spelling from my experencies that is only brought up when the person I'm debating with is backed into a corner and refuse to admit that I have a point so instead contiue to dig a even depper whole for themselves, so either come back with a mature counter argument or stop replying.

 

[Kaboom]

They're not nonsensical, anybody with any sense can tell that the reason Lana happened to call at that time was to symbolise that she is playing a major factor in the splintering of their relationship. If that's not the reason give me the real reason.

As for my grammar and spelling from my experencies that is only brought up when the person I'm debating with is backed into a corner and refuse to admit that I have a point so instead contiue to dig a even depper whole for themselves, so either come back with a mature counter argument or stop replying.

5) tautological

(that isn't a good thing)

 

[Jack O Lantern]

5) tautological

(that isn't a good thing)

I know what it is. The only reason that I'm repeating myself is because nobody but Super_Ludacris ( who made some good points) will make a decent reply, I'm just asking for a mature ounter argument I have no time for immature people that love for a show stops them from admitting that it has flaws

 

[Kaboom]

I know what it is. The only reason that I'm repeating myself is because nobody but Super_Ludacris ( who made some good points) will make a decent reply, I'm just asking for a mature ounter argument I have no time for immature people that love for a show stops them from admitting that it has flaws

tautological does not mean repeating oneself.

 

[NHawk19]

I know what it is. The only reason that I'm repeating myself is because nobody but Super_Ludacris ( who made some good points) will make a decent reply, I'm just asking for a mature ounter argument I have no time for immature people that love for a show stops them from admitting that it has flaws

A decent reply isnt always one that you want to or enjoy reading.

And I have to admit that these topics are getting harder to discuss because they just go round in circles, with neither side gaining any ground. Part of that is because what a person likes is subjective, and that alone means when interpreting raw data one person will look for a way for said data to support their arguement. Sometimes it's easily seen other's it's not, but it's there in many many forms.

 

[Brainiac 8]

They're not nonsensical, anybody with any sense can tell that the reason Lana happened to call at that time was to symbolise that she is playing a major factor in the splintering of their relationship. If that's not the reason give me the real reason.

As for my grammar and spelling from my experencies that is only brought up when the person I'm debating with is backed into a corner and refuse to admit that I have a point so instead contiue to dig a even depper whole for themselves, so either come back with a mature counter argument or stop replying.

What your not seeing is that their friendship was doomed to failure from the moment they met in the pilot. Lex befriended Clark solely on the basis of finding out how he and Clark survived that car crash. Lex has been using Clark throughout the show with this motive in mind.

I'm not saying that Lex has not done good things and tried to be a good friend to Clark, but throughout the whole thing he has betrayed Clark's trust, lied to him, and continued to study him even though on many occasions he said he had stopped.

Clark has known about all of this, and hasn't fully trusted Lex since the third season. He has tried to help Lex through the darkness, but it's been to no avail thus far. The thing with Lana is just one more thing that's adding a little more strain. It hasn't totally turned them against each other though, and I don't think that's what Al and Miles has in mind.

The story isn't done yet, so we still are waiting to see how it'll fully play out. But Lana coming into the picture is just a small thing in an already crumbling relationship betwee Lex and Clark.

 

[avidreader]

Great points B8. Another reason for the Lex/Lana relationship is to show Lana that honesty and truth isnt always the best and right approach. That sometimes you just have to rely on your gut instincts and what you know to believe is right.