Comics Best Spidey/Green Goblin story?

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They are the greatest rivals and enemies so I strung together some of their greatest encounters here, take a look:

Amazing Spider-Man #14: Green Goblin first appears and tricks Spider-Man into a desert to "shoot a movie" to boost his reputation. There he and the Enforcers tag team Spidey and if the Hulk hadn't gotten involved the GG might've killed old web-head then and there.

Amazing Spider-Man #17: Convinced he is better than Spider-Man and all superheroes and needing to prove it to the world Gobby jumps in and surprises Spidey at Fash's Spider-Man concert party....thing. Gone is the stupid broom from his first appearence and in enters the glider They battle and the Human Torch gets in the act. Gobby is overwhelmed but when hearing that Aunt May had a heart attack or stroke from two muttering security guards, Spidey ditches the fight and leaves in the publics' eyes that he is a coward and Gobby is victorious.

Amazing Spider-Man #26-#28: Green Goblin vs. Crime Lord. Gobby vs. Crime Lord with spidey in the middle.

Amazing Spider-Man #39-#40: Gobby does the very thinkable, he figures out Spidey has a spider-sense and dounces him with a chemical that dulls it. He follows Spidey after a battle and discovers Spidey is Peter Parker, Harry's supposed friend. Goblin laughs with intensity at this as the day is his.. He quickly and easily ambushes Spider-Man as Peter Parker and tears him a new one taking him to a chemical plant at Oscorp at which he reveals at, he is Norman Osborn, Harry's father! The two fight and a chemical explosion goes off giving Norman amnesia causing him to forget he is the Green Goblin. Spider-Man thinks Gobby is gone for good when Peter Parker interrogates Norman at the hospital.

Amazing Spider-Man #96-#98: Thre dreaded and feared: drug issue(s). In it Norman breaks down from chemicals and remembers his alter-ego and has an identity crisis and gives in to the Goblin. Meanwhile his son Harry Osborn is tripping off LSD and pills he bought and goes trippy. He overdoses just as Green Goblin attacks his and Peter Parker's apartment in an attempt to kill both of them! AT which point he reveals himself to be truly far gone by almost blowing up his own son but in the end losing the battle to amnesia yet again.

Amazing Spider-Man #121-#122: The dreaded turning point. Norman is back and meaner than ever. This time he goes too far as the Goblin trails Peter Parker to find him dating Gwen Stacy. In a crude move he kidnaps Pete's girlfriend and takes her to the George Washington (or Brooklyn, take your pick) bridge for an ultimate showdeown. In the hey frey Goblin tosses Gwen off the top of the bridge and when spidey tries to save her, accidentally snaps her neck from the impact of the webline. Hence SPIDER-MAN KILLED GWEN STACY AT THE HANDS OF THE GREEN GOBLIN. Oh the irony. Peter goes on a rampage to find Norman even blowing off his best friend Harry when he overdoses on LSD again leading him right back to a warehouse where Norman is planning. They battle and Spidey nearly beats GG to death but pulls the last punch and will take Norman to jail instead. But GG pulls a remote to the glider to kill Spider-Man instead, but Spidey ducks and the glider impales GG instead. And to quote the book "And so the proud man dies not on a ring of gold but a piece of tin."

Amazing Spider-Man #135-#137: The Green Goblin is back! But this time he is in the form of Harry Osborn. Having tailed Spider-Man to the warehouse drugged up, Harry found out his father was the Green Goblin. He had hid the body away from the costume to make it look like Norman was not the Green Goblin. But it drove him mad and in dispair and in these issues when he finds the Spidey costume in Pete's room while Pete's in teh shower he goes over the edge. He takes the goblin formula and goes ape**** on Spidey almost beating him. He then plants a bomb over Aunt May's head after missing his oppurtunity to kill the webhead in the warehouse his father died. But Spidey defeats Harry and difuses the bomb. He takes off Harry's stuff and lets the police cart him away to the loony bin. He screams that he knows Peter Parker is Spider-Man and he is the Green Goblin, but no one believes him because he is too young to be the Green Goblin that first showed up years ago.

Amazing Spider-Man: #178#180: The **** hits the fan here. Harry has gone missing and Liz has had enough. Aunt May is in the hospital and needs Peter to sign her to have surgory but only MJ is there with Aunt May as Spidey is stuck battling a returned Green Goblin who is crazier than ever. he captures Spidey ready to sell him to the mob but a rival gang frees Spidey. In this series GG nearly kills Silvermaine and defeats Spidey only unable to kill him because his masked prisoner escapes....HARRY OSBORN. A second Green Goblin appears and it is Harry Osborn and it is revealed that this is a third generation Green Goblin, Harry's institution psychatrist who followed harry's claims and was going to use it to write a field book but goes mad with power instead and becoems the Green Goblin, ready to kill Harry and Peter. He unfortunately loses a one-on-one for Harry and blows himself up. Harry vows never to put the costume on again and retires with Peter back to Liz Allen and finally an apparently happy ending.

Amazing Spider-Man #314: Nearly 20 years later (our time) the happy ending wasn't so happy afterall. Harry is awoken to his true Goblin self by the dispicable Hobgoblin II (Jason Mendale(sp?) who is after the Goblin formula that the first Hobby had and all the Green Goblins did. He gets more than he bargins for though when he wakes the Green Goblin out of slumber.

Spectacular Spider-Man #177-#184: Ah the meloncholy of Harry finally sets in, in the Child Within. Unfortunately it is 7 issues long and way too long to describe (and I don't have all the issues) so suffice to say Harry goes too far gone to come back. It is revealed he has been depressed all his life and we see how far his father has screwed him up all his life and why he is such a cruel person imself deep within. There is no going back for Harry at this point and he gets away at the end, like any good goblin should.

Spectacular Spider-Man #189: The return of Harry in possibly his most poignant story. Here he kidnaps his wife, son little Normie and brother-in-law Mark (the former MOlten Man) into his old Osborn Estate (a home that scared him too much as a sane Harry Osborn to live in) and there tortures his family. He literally beats Mark for being band abuses his wife mentally as she goes on the verge of a mental breakdown of seeing her husband reduced to a madman who is pretending to be his father dressed in a Halloween costume. Always around him pictures of he and his father painted and mounted. He even sets the seeds of maddness in his son as he forces his to side against his mother. And then of course you got him living an exploding Spider-Man in MJ's bed and Peter trying to stop it and being the guest of honor at the cooky dinner party that ends Harry as the GG finally being caught and carted off in chains taunting he knows who Spider-Man is and soon he will reveal it to the entire world.

Spectacular Spider-Man #200: The Goblin has another last stand. Here Harry is maricoulously (or lazily written) released where he tries to turn over a new leaf. He scares MJ as Gobby but won't hurt her, meanwhile scaring his wife into accepting him as "normal." He then makes plans to kill all of his father's old friends calling them "snobs" who tried to keep his father down. He does it in the guise of a charity building but not before Spidey has anything to say about it. But as Peter enters this world he enters it when MJ and little Normie are in the building (little Normie is getting ****ed up and enjoying destroying Spider-Man dolls). In this time GG actually defeats Spider-Man. But he can't kill him because he breaks his promise to MJ if he lets her die, much less his son. In a moment of identity crisis, he chooses to be a hero and saves them. He comes back for Peter at MJ's urging puts his ailments (from an overdose on Goblin Formula) to its limits and dies from an O.D. Spider-Man rides with him in the ambulance to the hospital. He is D.O.A. once he is there though.



Peter Parker Spider-Man #75: The end of revelations. It is Halloween night and Spider-Man is out (Ben REilly) as Peter rushes to the hospital to see his baby. There is a sense of carelessness from the hospital staff who can't help him find his wife and daughter. He is then drugged and kidnapped and wakes up in the original Spider-Man duds in the hands of....NORMAN OSBORN. Back from the dead as it were. He reveals that the Goblin Formula gives you an advanced healing factor and his body mended itself hours after Spider-Man left him for dead. He was then to seek revenge but found his son trying on the Goblin gear so instead put a "lookalike" in the coffin and went to attend shady tidings in Europe over the last years leaving Harry to make him proud. But no....Peter Parker killed his son and Norman came back wanting revenge. He is now one personality, evil son of a *****. He has gathered all of Peter's friends over the years (Betty, Flash, Liz, JJJ, Robbie, Gloria, the whole gang) inside the Daily Bugle for a "Halloween Party" but locked them there to blow up. He reveals he has tortured Peter from Europe. Having blackmailed Ben's friend into saying Peter was the clone. But Peter was too damn resilent, he had already beaten Ben to a pulp. He then taunts JJJ and reveals his (JJJ knowing Norman Osborn's voice) return before Spidey keeps him from dropping him to his grave. In a very personal battle on top of the Daily Bugle explosions abound. Ben saves everyone inside and brings the booby trapped bombs in the news room to Peter who is struggling with Norman. When all seems won the remote control glider goes after Peter but Ben jumps in the way as it sends him off a building, killing Ben Reilly. Spidey turns in a huge rage against Norman. Spidey tries to blow GG up and kill him for good but he taunts he will be back and he has already won, taking from Peter what Peter took from him. When he gets to the hospital he discovers GG stole his baby May and in all liklihood killed her.


Spectacular Spider-Man #251-#255: Norma nOsborn has returned to the grave saying he hid back in Europe to avoid public scrutiny faked his own death. The public seems convinced he is the Green Goblin because of a book Ben Urich with the help of Spider-Man wrote about the Osborn family. However, Norman buys the Bugle and makes it all pro-slush and tries to get Urich to write his type of stuff. Only Peter, MJ, Liz and Urich (and JJJ, ironically) look at him as dirt as even Betty and Flash fall for his **** once a new Green Goblin (IV by my count) who kidnaps Norman's grandson, Little Normie. As it turns out Norman has made Spider-Man a dead man by having him framed for murder by killing a low level thug and sufficating him with webbing. He uses JJJ's money (who hates Norman) to produce a 5 million dollar bounty on Spidey's head. The world tries to save Normie as the new Goblin threatens and belittles Norman Osborn, all are convinced but a few. Spidey ends up having to save NOrman Osborn from the green Goblin after a business deal goes sour for Normie's life on the Brooklyn Bridge. Norman Osborn begs Peter Parker for his help. He then allows Normie to be saved by some civilian while Spidey does battle with Goblin IV who seems to die. Norman seems thankful and even Peter and MJ wonder if maybe he had no part to play....but of course he does as he pulled the strings all along and has a new apprentice to the Goblin thrown. And he has finally cleared his name too.


Spectacular Spider-Man #259-#261: Goblin kidnaps Roderick Kingsley, the original Hobgoblin from prison. It is Goblin vs. Goblin, the originals this time though. As it turns out Kingsley claims to have Osborn's journal that proves he is the GG. Norman and the new Gobby kidnap him and make him spill the beans. But Hobby takes them on a detour as he in fact does not have the book. The two Goblins work together and capture Spidey while looking for the book, but Norman refuses to let Hobby unmask Spidey. Once Norman realize Hobby has been lying to him, it is world war III in a warehouse over this ****. Spidey esscapes and defeats the fourth Green Goblin as Norman and Hobby are set to fight each other to death in a burning warehouse, but Peter reluctantly gets in the middle, NOrman gets away hiding his face and good ol' Hobby escapes out of the country too.

Spider-Man: The Final Chapter: Why would you vote for this? Screw the issues. Suffice as to say that Norman becomes mystically charged and more evil than ever. He reveals that Aunt May is not really dead (ugh!) but he hired an actress with plastic surgery he drugged to play her in #400 and that she is really alive with a drug in her head that will blow up the world or some ****. GG is finally defeated (again) and webbed by Spidey in front of the Daily Bugle which he has blown up the foundation of. Spidey holds up the building while the occupants escape before it crumbles. GG goes to prison where the guards who unmask him are promptly murdered by the Gathering and Norman's true identity is safe again.

Trick of Light (Amazing and Peter Parker Spider-Man #25, Volume 2): In this we get a great little psychological story. Norman goes back to the house that his father drove him mad with. Locked alone in the dark as a boy during a stormy night by his father he learns to love the dark and it warped his mind ever since. He intends to make an heir witih this house. Peter Parker has been drugged by Norman into pretending he is the Green Goblin (I guess Peter is Goblin V? Then that's right) and he kills or tries to kill his own friends anyway at the time. Spidey then comes nad saves him. Peter figures it out and is drugged up the wazhooe and has hallucinations of his parents, Uncle Ben and you name it. Norman takes Peter to this house and will make Spidey an heir to the Goblin and Osborn legacy. Peter thinks Norman is nuts but after weeks of torture where if he chooses light he is electricuted Peter continues to fight, even as the drugs make Norman into Uncle Ben. While at first resilent by the end of three weeks Peter is a bearded, broken cowering man scared of light. Norman gets Peter about 5 inches away from drinking the Goblin formula and turning into a Goblin himself permanently when he remembers what his aunt said and throws it in Norman's face. They have their most graphically drawn grapple on the buildings roof in a rainstorm with blood flying. Norman decides to leave this for another day where their next fight will end with one killing the other.

Peter Parker Spider-Man (Volume 2) #44-#38: An arguable good conclusion to the saga (though Marvel can't leave a good story dead, as we all know) as Goblin and Parker prepare for the final shodown. Goblin visits his son at the graveyard who he calls weak and refuses to visit ever again. He laments that he is a father without a son and Peter is a son without a father. He makes one last offer for Spidey to join and continue the Osborn legacy, when Peter refuses, he captures Flash Thompson, who is trying to recover and fills him with enough whiskey that he is like 8 times over the legal limit. He then puts him in a semi and drives it into Peter's school (killing Peter's hamster for the record). Flash is in a coma and peralyzed as Norman escapes despite Peter's spite in public of Osborn. He mocks Flash along with Harry to Peter's face. They have a final showdown at a chemical plant where after televising to the world that it was Spider-Man's fault that Gwen Stacy died and GG tried to save her, mocking Gwen's boyfriend should hate Spider-Man, the **** hits the fan. When Spidey has the upperhand GG mocks he will have another wife and child, a true heir and he'll just kill the weak little Normie (too much like Harry) to keep the bad genes out. Spidey beats Goblin to the point of killing him. But stops. The two sit there, enjoy a conversation. Lament the past and GG reveals he almost called himself Mr. Coffee which they share a laugh over. Peter misses Gwen and decides that he loves her taht in her memory he won't be a monster like Norman and will not kill Norman. He won't even put Norman in jail, because being Norman is life without parole. He challenges Norman to kill his aunt or wife, he won't stop him because in the end he is resilent and Norman is alone. Spidey wins. Norman goes to his office, pulls a gun out of his desk and puts it in his mouth. Seemingly committing suicide over this sad truth.

Mark Millar's 12 issue run: Despite seemingly committing suicide in Paul Jenkins' great character study, in the first 12 issues of Marvel Knights: Spider-Man Norman is back. After seemingly being anti-climactically defeated by Spidey in the first issue GG is finally arrested by the police and anti-climtically revealed to be Norman Osborn. In prison he convinces one of his guards to help his sick wife with a potion that cures her but days later puts her in a coma and kills her. He then promises to reveal where Pete's kidnapped aunt is if Peter will spring him from prison (Scorpion is now working for GG and knows who Spidey is). Peter agrees but brings Black Cat along to try and keep things in order. Once they free NOrman, he unleashes the Sinster Twelve don't ask, where many of Spidey's best enemies are given the role of background lackies as the Avengers and FF show up to the rescue. Spidey also bests Scorpion Venom in this run to find GG has kidnapped MJ and taken her to the top of the Brooklyn Bridge, there GG is about to drop her like Gwen. But Doc Ock shows up to try and kill Norman. In the crossfire, Peter saves MJ and Norman escapes to see another day. He sends a letter to Peter saying he'll be back and until then he'll keep Pete in his prayers.

Woo, there you go, the most memorable Goblin storyllines with some synopsis I found and some I wrote. Took too long but choose.
 
Gotta go with SSM #200.... one of the greatest Spider-Man issues ever, actually. Ignoring Norman's subsequent ressurection several years later, it's an incredible conclusion to the Green Goblin legacy.... and the perfect farewell to the long-standing character of Harry Osborn.

All hail DeMatteis.... :o
 
It's very close between SSM #200 and ASM #121

The but i'm going tp go with SSM #200, the build up is fantastic and the issue very well written.
 
I really liked The Last Stand-story. Second I liked Norman drugging Peter to be Goblin. It was the first nowadays Spiderman I bought. I don't like Gwen Stacy-story, *sigh* it's been repeated and ruined and now boring.
 
I really wanted the vote Death in the Family. But Millar's run was just too good.
 
Man, this is TOUGH!!!

I love Millar's run....

But it pales in comparison to ASM #39-40...

Which pales in comparison to ASM 121-122...

Which, with everything else, pales in comparison to SSM #200, which is the way the Goblin Legacy should have ended, as opposed to resurrecting Norman and ruining ASM 121-122.
 
Spider-Man 75 is sick, however, just to add to your statement, Peter does know of Osborns involvment in the Hospital, however Osborn may be sick, but he ain't stupid, killing the kid to get a rise out of Pete is one thing, taking is away from him, for use as a future trump card is another.

Back to story, Osborn is at his best here, he practically destorys Spidey again and again, but Pete keeps standing, stronger each time. From the chilling intro with Osborn running into his grandson on Halloween night, to poor Benjy becoming "dust in the wind" this is Green Goblin vs Spider-Man with the volume turned up :up:
 
I love the story too. I would never have brought Norman back, but IF HE HAD TO COME, no way to do it better and JRjr's art really sells it:

Anyway my top 5:

1. ASM #121-122: Death of Gwen Stacy/The Goblin's Last Stand, 'nuff said

2. Death in the Famiily: Not a big fan of the art but Jenkins' 4 issue arc nails the character and their relationships to new levels. A brilliant story that ends how the Goblin Legacy should end if Norman had to be resurrected (I like Millar's run but them fighting after this story...just seems wrong. Norman has lsot for good, and he knows it).

3. Spectacular Spider-Man #200: Great end for Harry Osborn.

4. The Drug Issues: Classic GG

5. Trick of Light: Norman brainwashes Pete into being Spidey in the first part which was decent but to see how depraved Norman is in Jenkins' issue and how far down he takeks Peter. This is no black suit he hoenestly tortures Pete into the point where he is not resilent but a broken man willing to become a Goblin. Intense and very errie storyline.

Honorable mentions go to the above mentioned PPSM: #75, the end of Revvelations and of course to SSM #189 that defined Harry's character and what he did to his family and ASM #39-#40, where everything changed.

My opinion though.
 
ASM #39 and #40 for me.

Of course i LOVE the Death Of Gwen arc, but i think ive become somewhat...de-sensitized towards it, as i've read it so much recently (a few family members have asked to read it in anticipation to Gwen's appearence in the upcoming movie, so i seem to be trotting it out every damn week-end, lol)...

But, #39 and #40....wow. There was just something real creepy about watching the Goblin actually stalk Spider-Man, culminating in his attcking Peter right on Aunt May's front lawn!


Great stuff!


Stan did a similar story with Loki attackng Thor in his mortal guise of the slightly handicapped Don Blake at around the same time, iirc.
 
This is a toughie. A lot of these stpries are my favourite Spidey stories.

As SSM#200 is my single greatest Spider-man issue ever, I suppose I have to go with that. But then I have a soft spot for ASM #121-#122, but then a soft spot of Death In The Family, but then a soft spot for SSM #177-#184, but yet another soft spot for ASM #39-#40. Damn looking back, Goblin has had some awesome stories.
 
I pose a question to fellow fans of the Spidey/Goblin rivalry, how do well do you think Raimi captured the characters and Goblin in particular (considering though he obviously based it more on the first 100 issues Goblin and not the reinvented one-personality Norman Osborn monster brought back to us in the '90s though).
 
My favorite is Death In the Family.
 
None of the above:
"The Goblin Lives!" in the second issue of "The Spectacular Spider-man" This was actually a magazine that lasted a whopping 2 issues. It's the first time Norman gets his memory back, and he invites Peter and co. to dinner. After Norman collapsed at the beginning of the issue after watching a movie of Spider-man vs. the GG, Peter spent the whole issue freaking out that he might remeber he was the GG from that episode. At dinner, it's pretty obvious he's back in GG mode, and he can barely contain himself from attacking Peter right then and there. They fight as Peter tries to stop him from going to Aunt May's house. It being the 60s, both Peter and Norman wind up getting high on a hallucenigenic pumpking bomb (seriously). I think it was reprinted in King Sizer Spider-man #5 as "the Green Goblin memorial issue" after the death of GG/Gwen story.
 
DACrowe said:
I pose a question to fellow fans of the Spidey/Goblin rivalry, how do well do you think Raimi captured the characters and Goblin in particular (considering though he obviously based it more on the first 100 issues Goblin and not the reinvented one-personality Norman Osborn monster brought back to us in the '90s though).

I haven't read all the issues with the Green Goblin in it, but as for the movie... I'd have to say the Goblin was a very true to those early issues. I thought Defoe did a great job with the part. The hightech design of the suit and the mask kind of got in the way though.
 
shinlyle said:
Man, this is TOUGH!!!

I love Millar's run....

But it pales in comparison to ASM #39-40...

Which pales in comparison to ASM 121-122...

Which, with everything else, pales in comparison to SSM #200, which is the way the Goblin Legacy should have ended, as opposed to resurrecting Norman and ruining ASM 121-122.
Those older stories are sentimental favorites for sure... but Millars story HAD me... emotionally... more than the others. May-be because it was longer... and I knew Gwen's story and the others before I read them. I just haven't been so deliciously ANXIOUS to know what "happens next" in a story since Millar's MKSM.
 
Captivated said:
Those older stories are sentimental favorites for sure... but Millars story HAD me... emotionally... more than the others. May-be because it was longer... and I knew Gwen's story and the others before I read them. I just haven't been so deliciously ANXIOUS to know what "happens next" in a story since Millar's MKSM.

Agreed. Millar's run was great. It really had me hooked and I always say that's one of the first stories someone should get if they haven't read Spider-man yet. It was easy to pick up and just a fun read from the start.

While ASM 121-122 were instant classics...my favorite story is SSM 200. A thrilling issue from start to finish.
 
I would have voted for Spectacular Spider-Man Magazine #2, which came out in 1968.

(AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON THE POLL... :cmad: :cmad: :cmad: )

Arguably one of THE best Spidey/Green Goblin stories ever told. :word: :up: :word:

:yay:
 
The thing about this is that in a real sense, up to his death, the Goblin stories are really one epic saga. Each of his appearances up to ASM #122 built upon the last, with the Goblin becoming increasingly psychotic and dangerous. So in that sense I don't feel that one stands out above the rest. they're all just a steady progression towards an inevitable ending.

And so in that sense I really haven't taken any post 122 appearances by the Goblin too seriously. The Norman that came back isn't the Norman that died. Neither is the Goblin. What we've gotten is an amalgam of Lex Luthor and the Joker. A Death in the Family is about the best story that's been done post-resurrection. Millar's run was garbage. One of THE WORST runs anyone has ever had on Spider-Man IMO.
 
ASM #121-#122: Famous Death of Gwen Stacy/Goblin's Last Stand storyline
 
Death in The Family is by far the best story, but the art lowers it a bit for me. Just to happy for such a brilliantly dark story. So for me, I voted for Trick of Light... it was just as brilliant, a wonderful stepping stone up to Death in the family, and perfectly drawn. Third for me is the classic death, obviously, but Revelations gets mad points for being in the Clone Saga and bringing him back in a way I didn't hate(rare, with resurrections).

And one final note:
Millar sucks and his run on Spidey is all I have to go off of to say that. The entire thing reeks of self parody(Brock auctioning off his suit like it's at the goddamned Academy Awards?) and wrecks several charecters(Goblin coming back with NO motivation- pointless after the masterful ending he was given in DinF) . Why ANYONE would like or enjoy his 12 issues is beyond me in every way, why it's got such a good reputation is up there with the impossible question of say, the meaning of life.
 
"A Death in the Family" story arc by far.

I've read these over and over, they are so good.
 
Spectacular Spider-Man # 200 hands down for me. It was a great story all around and it hasn't been tainted yet! (knocks on wood).

And I enjoyed the tie in with the Clone Saga about how Harry's death set Osborn off...pretty much started the Clone Saga, if you think about it. :o
 

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