Llama_Shepherd
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Oh, wow really?
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I think they should use Guy, Kyle or a completely new character as GL.
Also to say Steph works as Nightwing because people only know Dick as Robin and don't know who Nightwing is plain dumb. Who is Nightwing on Young Justice (the most popular show of the DCU block)? Dick. Who was Nightwing on The Batman, Batman: TAS? Dick. Who was Nightwing in Teen Titans Go!? Dick. Who is NIghtwing in the comics (the place Smallville Season 11 is now marketing to)? Dick. Dick is iconic to take him out is one thing but to give everything he worked for to someone who never even earned it is another. Do you even know the history of Nightwing and how he got his name and who he even came to before taking that name? This is why Steph should not be called Nightwing. It was like a right of passage between him and two people he saw as father figures (Batman and Superman). All Steph is really remembered for is stealing the Robin suit and Batman taking it away from her. Then almost getting herself killed and then becoming Batgirl where if you blinked you would have missed it. This is why it is a wrong move I get BQM has a special place in his heart for her but that shouldn't cloud your judgement.
Nah, Hal all the way! I'm a huge fan of that guy. And I'm close to being unable to picture a GL story without him, especially if it comes to something that's dear to my heart like Smallville. But hey, I'm not gonna start an argument here to avoid ending up like the Stephanie Brown thing lol. I'm just in wait and see mode. Since they got Batman, they can get anyone from now on.
No I am not talking about the rep of the book. I am talking about the shows rep that's what I am talking about. The show has had a reputation on putting off comic fans for years now and not only that Superman fans and now that's where it is being marketed to for it's lifeline and to come in at 96th for an debut issue isn't good for the show it was. As I have said before I enjoyed the show and enjoy the comic but if it wants to be as successful as Buffy use to be then it needs to realize it can't follow the usual Smallville format and has to try and reach out to comic fans as well. That's all I am saying because when the show ran and they started adding more heroes and all you hear people say getting the SV treatment for characters in the comics and show (and that wasn't meant as a good thing). You don't want to start off with your first major hero getting talked about the same way to where people who thought things would be different in the comics see nothing has changed.And still we don't know anything of sv world's batman. Plus nothing on stephaine. Like others have said maybe this batman has had other sidekicks, and they are off doing solo thing. Or maybe like sv did with many characters merged aspects/traits of different characters into one new thing. That is why we need to see whole story before we ***** out totally.
And for me sure sv made some silly story/character deals over the yrs. But I still think most character par a few namely pete/lana ended up pretty good characters.
As for rep I really haven't heard anything totally negative on sv book. And across many forums I go too have heard good things same with going to my local comic shops. And sure the print issues may be low on sales charts. But dc is really pushing the whole digital deal. So they probably care a slight bit more on digital sales. And also we have to remember they are getting. 3 digital chapters/full book, and the full physical book profits. So overall they still making money.
And here is all that matters to DC KalKaiDangerman, here's some news for you:
http://www.comiclist.com/index.php/news/smallville-season-11-1-sells-out-and-goes-back-to-press
You don't represent the comic world, and neither do some comic book nerds on an internet message board. That's the reality.
Oh for god's sake get over yourself. You guys take this stuff way too seriously. This isn't a sign of disrespect to Dick in any way. Again - let's see WHY she is Nightwing and then debate over how bad it is. Million things could've happened, we don't know any of the facts behind it. Any. Ooh, they chose Stephanie over Dick. Blasphemy! Go burn poor Miller on the stake for it. Let's learn some actual info about and decide if we'll condemn it after. Jeez.
Actually yes it does and yes that still is the case for comics. Sorry to break it to you but digital isn't that big yet. It may be one day but for right now as far as comics goes it still is mainly a print media unlike the newspaper. So if it isn't doing well print wise it does speak volumes. Now why is that? Because like movies and CD's you can download it for free if you want to so digital you really don't make to much money on. That's why they are losing money on it if you can go anywhere and download the weekly issue and then to not have the print issues sell well at the same time. Think of it like Superman Returns. Superman Returns for a mostly non action movie brought in over 200 million dom the total box office was over $400 million, DVD's and Blu-Rays sold well and was well like and praised by critics, had a Superman that most of the fans loved and even respect to this day but here is the catcher much like SV it held a mix reaction on fans and they were vocal about. Now WB/DC still were about to go ahead and even went into casting and scouting locations however things change and they felt it didn't do well enough for them. Now if you didn't want to use Superman Returns for that example you could always look at Spider-Man 3 and X3 that were box offices gold but had fans in an outrage as well. bad place if you want to break away from movies look at All-Star Batman and Robin: the boy wonder and see how well that book sold but look at how it turned fans off. Now lets look at this comic it is 96th in it's place (which I hope it did better this month) but once again 96th in its place and it cost money either way to produce this and you have to market to a new fan base now that already has mixed feelings about the show. Tell me what makes SV the comic (series 2 because the first one was canceled as well) any different then say Superman Returns, SM3, X3, Aquaman (who did sell well the other issue with other Aquaman), JLI (which was selling good for a while and still was till it was canceled), Superman: Man of Steel, old Superboy series (before his death in IC) and countless other series that were ranked higher than this long into their run and had higher ranking debut issues? Once again I am not trying to be mean I want this comic to do well but it needs to try and bring in new readers. Not every one who watched SV is going to buy this be it digital or print bad place I will bet you only about 15 to 20% of the people who watch the show may buy this at most. I am just saying change the perception on of what comic readers see you as and you'll do better because thats where it's life line draws now. Why do you think the DCAU films are based off of popular comics and are successful with them. I truly believe and hope that this opening arc of SV becomes one of them with the cast coming back to do the voicing but it won't if it doesn't make some try at doing this.Just cause it may not be the top seller for a dc book doesn't mean its not doing well enough forr the dc execs. Plus like I pointed out there is the whole digital chapters/full book, and print/digital full figures they are getting money from. Print books sales isn't the be all end all any more.
That's the question how well does DC expect this book to do. As for SR if released one week earlier the drop off wouldn't have been as big and it still reached 200 mil faster than Batman Begins in a shorter period of time and was still a top 10 movie of the year top 5 if you discount Night at the museum. But that's another topic. Anyways I am looking forward to this chapter just playing devil's advocate with you guys.Well also it accounts in how well dc expected the book to do and if its numbers are in a range dc is happy with. As for sr that is not the best example to go with. Oh sure totally sr made nearly 400mill. But it dropped very fast after opening weeks and took its full runs both domestically to get 200mill and 200mill internationally. Same goes with video home sales did well in first week out but dropped fast. Check any sales figure sites.
Bothso is the Smallville comic an actual comic or just a digital one?