Apocalypse Bigger action scenes

[Dr doomsday]

Having just gone through the x men movies (wolverine movies not included) I've noticed something with Bryan singer his x men movies really don't have action. This is actually quite noticeable especially with his climaxes X2 climax was forty minutes long and the only action in it is wolverine vs death strike. Everything else is very brief the escaping the dam sequences is longer than every fight scene in the movie put together.

DOFP isn't much better in that regard the climax having almost no fighting at all same with the movie the two future fights being the only real action scenes. First Class is similar The boat with Eric, capturing Emma, even the ending where the only real action scene being the fight with Azazel.

With the next film we're finally getting apocalypse the x men's most powerful enemy such an enemy needs a grand battle something Singer's hasn't shown he can do so far.

Say what you want about X3 but it did deliver the action the x men comics are known for which is very large in scale usually read messiah complex or The twelve. I'm not saying get rid of singer he's done great but he needs to step up and craft an action scene truly worthy of the x men comics if Apocalypse doesn't get a truly grand and epic battle against the X men or at least his horsemen do maybe Apocalypse like Phoenix is just too powerful to physically fight, but X men Apocalypse needs an epic battle of some sort it's a requirement of Apocalypse and if there isn't like DOFP then I will feel the movie missed the mark slightly on this.

One final note please tell me Singer will let go of his obsession with Magneto every movie Singer has done he's thrown whatever villain he was building up aside being stryker, Shaw, Trask or the Sentinels in favor of Magneto.

This is another thing I feel X3 didn't do Phoenix was without a doubt the villain focused on in the first half and remained Logan's focus for the second half and even when she was standing around which is actually from the comics or at least the show she was still clearly the greater threat and ultimately the true antagonist of the movie as well as the final adversary.

I'm getting ahead of myself my point being I want larger action in this movie and if Singer throws aside Apocalypse in the ending in favor of Magneto I will be furious.

 

[kasjan]

I see, for you action = battle.
Troll alert.

 

[BoredGuy]

Or maybe he felt the action has been lackluster and didn't feel "big" enough
it's a complaint many seem to share

that said, I dunno if it warrants a thread when it's already being discussed in the main speculation thread

 

[Dr doomsday]

Or maybe he felt the action has been lackluster and didn't feel "big" enough
it's a complaint many seem to share

that said, I dunno if it warrants a thread when it's already being discussed in the main speculation thread

Oh it is sorry I didn't know that I'm new here. I've enjoyed all the movies some more than others as a whole it's my second favorite superhero franchise but watching all the shows does make me want a bit more I mean this is Apocalypse we're talking about and am I only one worried Singer might toss Apocalypse aside for Magneto in the end he's done it every other time I think it's a valid concern.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

The action scenes in X3 were mediocre. The final battle was laughable. So I cannot agree with you there. Singer's movies may have been more measured in their action than Ratner, but the Nightcrawler opener, the Quicksilver scene, Wolverine vs Deathstrike, and the mansion invasion are classier than anything in X3.

 

[Dr doomsday]

That's your opinion and I don't agree with it. The mansion invasion was cool I'll give you that., The Night crawler thing was cool too quicksilver was more funny than anything than anything I mean giving a guy a wedgie making another punch himself in the face stealing another's hat I was laughing more than anything.

I also can't help but notice no one's answering my Magneto question am I really the only one concerned about that..

 

[GuestStar2004]

I am pretty sure apocalypse won't be overshadowed by magneto, he is to big a villain compared to what we had previously

 

[X-Maniac]

The far-reaching, wide-ranging power displays of elementals like Storm and Magneto are always going to look bigger and more spectacular. Apocalypse doesn't really have such powers (though he did in the DoFP post-credits scene when he was assembling pyramids) but he definitely needs to stand out as a mega-villain.

 

[MarvelU]

The action scenes in X3 were mediocre. The final battle was laughable. So I cannot agree with you there. Singer's movies may have been more measured in their action than Ratner, but the Nightcrawler opener, the Quicksilver scene, Wolverine vs Deathstrike, and the mansion invasion are classier than anything in X3.

I would like to add the future scene battles in DOFP were also better than most action scenes in X3. Magneto/Storm combo and Blink using her portals to tag team with everyone was fantastic. Now I do agree that the climax of Apocalypse could use a more power heavy show-down. You have 4 horse-Men and Apocalypse vs The X-Men this already means there will be multiple battles in the movie.

 

[Kermit_The_Frog]

I guess I'm the only that doesn't have a problem with the fact that we haven't had endless amounts of action filling the screen in these movies.

More action in Apocalypse would be cool, as long as it's not an excess like AOU, for example.

 

[Frankeh]

The far-reaching, wide-ranging power displays of elementals like Storm and Magneto are always going to look bigger and more spectacular. Apocalypse doesn't really have such powers (though he did in the DoFP post-credits scene when he was assembling pyramids) but he definitely needs to stand out as a mega-villain.

They should have Giant Apocalypse, Apocalypse morphing his arms into weapons (they already did that with one sentinel in DOFP btw), Apocalypse teleporting, Apocalypse using telepathy, Apocalypse using telekinesis... basically have him fire from all cylinders when he needs to.

 

[Dr doomsday]

I guess I'm the only that doesn't have a problem with the fact that we haven't had endless amounts of action filling the screen in these movies.

More action in Apocalypse would be cool, as long as it's not an excess like AOU, for example.

You mistake my statement I have loved all but one of the films and liked all of them I find them much better than the MCU specifically because they focus on characters over action however I do feel a little more wouldn't hurt like the fight at Jean's house. Something that lasts longer than three minutes. Like you I agree I don't want an endless amount like Avengers either where the actions scenes were basically the plot of the movie I never want X men to become that but I feel for Apocalypse they should be a little bigger.

I liked the future battles for the most part but I don't see where some people are coming from the first one was Bobby does his ice slide is killed after, Colossus punches it tries again it catches his fist kills him, Sunfire blasts it with fire which it walks through before killing him blink teleports a sentinel away does it again and gets killed Warpath is killed. The ending fight was cool too with some creative power use some of the most creative in the films actually I was satisfied with this fight for the most part.

I don't understand X3's final battle being laughable watching an army of mutants finally battle an army of humans being blasted with endless cure bullets before shattering their weapons and then massacring the humans the X men's entrance, Beast jumping from pole swinging around taking out mutants in quick succession right out of the comics right there, Magneto and Pyro flinging flaming cars at them which smash apart the surrounding area while they take cover the defeat of Magneto and the ending of Logan fighting his way to Jean who is ripping apart his flesh. How is that laughable? Or the mutants taking Warren captive before Quill murders Rao in cold blood how is that laughable. Angel saving his dad yeah he comes out of nowhere but so what so did Magneto in X2 when he saved the jet.

The only thing I can think of that is laughable is the Juggernaut Kitty chase and the Bobby Pyro fight which considering there powers there wasn't much they could do at the time even still that isn't even 20 percent of the climax so what was laughable about it. How in the hell is the fight at Jean's house anything but great. Wolverine's fight at Magneto's camp was pretty similar to the mansion invasion just shorter so how is it bad but the mansion is classy when they're pretty much the same. Magneto throwing the trucks around was brief and his escape was cooler but I wouldn't call the scene bad it was the first scene we saw the real extent of Magneto's raw power.

So what is the difference notice I didn't bring up Nightcrawler that was awesome and Deathstrike is the best one on one fight in probably the series but other than those what's the difference what's so special and classy about Pyro blasting cop cars or the jet chase with the missiles or Jean pushing Scott's optic blast back which is literally all there fight was how is that any cooler than Bobby and Pyro. Mystique beats up Strykers guards which is cool but I don't see what's so special and classy about it or Magneto dragging Mystique by the leg before being nearly drowned by beast dramatic most definitely cool not really nothing really unique there, the present day climax a sentinel shoots at Wolverine he claws at it slices it Beast jumps on it biting it's pipes before being thrown in a car the sentinel smashes and tears off the hood that's it probably forty five seconds at best so why's that better too could you maybe explain this for me?

 

[Mystique's Leg]

Singer's action scenes leave me wanting more, in a positive way. I mean, who wouldn't have wanted more of the X-Men fighting the future Sentinels in DOFP? But all in all, the movie works very well and I think the action is perfectly dosed. The characters feel much more like characters instead of just action heroes (like in AoU). Even action scenes of characters like Colossus or Warpath emoted something visceral. It never feels tiring or mind numbing.

So, yeah, part of me wants more action, but another part applauds Singer for focusing on character instead of action or dull humour (like some Marvel movies).

Someone said Singer's action scenes feel more measured. I agree. I think they are more 'moments'. Like Nightcrawler intro in X2, Storm/Magneto combo in DOFP, Wolverine vs Mystique in X1, Mystique infiltration in X2, Magneto lifting the stadium,... .

I would be happy to see a real long and physical battle against Apocalypse and the Horseman, but I wouldn't be surprised if it'll turn out differently.

 

[Smilodon]

Scale isn't necessarily everything. Moments like Erik and Shaw's final confrontation in FC were incredibly satisfying, visceral and memorable. I think Singer took a page out of Vaughn's more intimate climax for DOFP too. It subverts the traditionally flashy finales of these big blockbuster films.

That being said, I do hope we get some bigger action and I think we will judging by some of the things we've seen from his Instagram teasers as well as the leaked set photos and interviews and whatnot.

 

[Legion]

I wouldn't mind a little more action here and there but I don't know about "bigger". When I read that I'm thinking "the Avengers" but with X-Men instead and I definitely don't want that.

I think the action in DOFP was great and flowed more naturally without the obvious "this is a cool action scene" moments that other films have.

I also don't get the "this is Apocalypse, must have big action!" comments. I don't recall Apocalypse being involved in any huge battles in the comics or doing much fighting himself for that matter.

 

[Smilodon]

They'd need grunts like the Chitauri and the Ultron drones for more action scenes instead of just Four Horseman and Apocalypse (and by the end of the film, it looks to be just Apocalypse vs everyone so yeah)

 

[Frankeh]

Nah, I'm not personally asking for Avengers reskinned with X-Men. But I do think they should capitalize on the flashy powers these characters have to the max. I honestly don't get it when someone says they wouldn't have preferred to see Storm do in DOFP what she was originally going to do (storyboards).

 

[Psycho Haller]

 

[ciscostudent561]

basically.

 

[BoredGuy]

Nah, I'm not personally asking for Avengers reskinned with X-Men. But I do think they should capitalize on the flashy powers these characters have to the max. I honestly don't get it when someone says they wouldn't have preferred to see Storm do in DOFP what she was originally going to do (storyboards).

the main thing they could stand to ape from the avengers flicks would be the teamwork aspect
the x-men have always been the best cohesive team unit in the comics, so the movies could use a few more awesome team-ups mid-battle
and Cyke should be calling the shots at a similar level to Cap

 

[X-Maniac]

the main thing they could stand to ape from the avengers flicks would be the teamwork aspect
the x-men have always been the best cohesive team unit in the comics, so the movies could use a few more awesome team-ups mid-battle
and Cyke should be calling the shots at a similar level to Cap

And especially when they have telepaths like Jean and Xavier to mind-link them all, alongside strategists like Cyclops and self-assured goddesses like Storm.

You'd think the telepathy alone would allow some amazing teamwork... no need for shouting orders, giving away tactics...

 

[Psycho Haller]

the main thing they could stand to ape from the avengers flicks would be the teamwork aspect
the x-men have always been the best cohesive team unit in the comics, so the movies could use a few more awesome team-ups mid-battle
and Cyke should be calling the shots at a similar level to Cap

Couldn't agree more.

 

[Frankeh]

the main thing they could stand to ape from the avengers flicks would be the teamwork aspect
the x-men have always been the best cohesive team unit in the comics, so the movies could use a few more awesome team-ups mid-battle
and Cyke should be calling the shots at a similar level to Cap

I definitely agree with this, but I was just trying to rebut the argument that we just want this movie to ripoff another one.

 

[Avalanche]

And especially when they have telepaths like Jean and Xavier to mind-link them all, alongside strategists like Cyclops and self-assured goddesses like Storm.

You'd think the telepathy alone would allow some amazing teamwork... no need for shouting orders, giving away tactics...

They used to do this really well in the Young Justice cartoon. Miss Martian would link everyone up telepathically during battles.

 

[psylockolussus]

I just want a great fight scene from Psylocke and I'd be content!