Biggest 4hole heroes in movies

[acedrake]

I would like to have a chat with you about the biggest heroes that actually are villains in trainning in movies today. First for me is Ironman and second Batman. And I am very curios to see wich heroes you belief or not to be so dangerous becouse of their view or at least their misguided sense of justice and revenge. See you later.

 

[metaphysician]

Superman ( MoS ). Arrogant, thoughtless, unconcerned with improving himself, at best morosely heroic if not outright suffering from clinical depression, and with his moral focus centered around basically two people. He's the Plutonian waiting to happen.

 

[2kt09]

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Spider-Man in The Amazing Spider-Man. Holy moly was that character unlikeable.

 

[Ivan Drago]

Spider-Man in The Amazing Spider-Man. Holy moly was that character unlikeable.

I agree.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Iron Man in the MCU.
Superman in the DCEU (BatFleck is a good guy now).

 

[Batmannerism]

Logan, in Logan. He's a grumpy bastard who can't get over himself and swears at kids - although for pretty good reasons.

Actually Logan was the first time I've felt any kind of sympathy for the character - I mean, everyone loses people but it isn't until his last film that he really learns what it means to be human, by facing his own mortality and real physical pain.

Having said all that,he's still a hero, and when push comes to shove he does the right thing - at the cost of his life.

That image of him gasping for breath as he stumbles through the forest trying to reach the kids (before he takes the super serum) was really moving, because he was so different from the invincible Wolverine we've seen all along - just a crippled old man, out of breath and killing himself to protect those kids. That was a very powerful moment, I thought.

But then Logan is a great cbm.


IMO Deadpool is just an 4$$hole, not really much of a hero at all.

 

[The Endless]

Deadpools entire motivation is selfish. He explicitly states he doesn't want to be a hero. Which makes him a unique character.

But then again, killing Ajax and destroying his operation, albeit for selfish reasons, will save others from the same fate as him.

Perhaps now he's got his revenge he might take some of Colossus' advice though.

 

[The Joker]

Batfleck instantly springs to mind.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Spider-Man in The Amazing Spider-Man. Holy moly was that character unlikeable.

If that is an unlikable *****e then be glad you didn't play the game tie-ins, he caused a viral outbreak in a mix of smug and idiotic attitude, and continued being a big jerk.

 

[Batmannerism]

If that is an unlikable *****e then be glad you didn't play the game tie-ins, he caused a viral outbreak in a mix of smug and idiotic attitude, and continued being a big jerk.

Yeah, that whole best promises are the ones you don't keep...I remember thinking WTF ? Who is this guy ?

To be fair he was a lot more likeable in TASM 2, although the rest of the movie wasn't.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Weird thing about Spidey in ASM2 was that they tried to do more of the witty banter thing with him but it made him come off like a reckless jackass. I remember that scene where the Rhino is stealing a bunch of highly dangerous chemicals and Spidey thinks it would be a great idea to just chill on the side of his truck and have a chat with him before trying to stop him, thereby endangering a sh**-ton of people. It seemed more like something Deadpool would do than Spider-Man.

 

[DACrowe]

In terms of those that are done poorly and come off as major *******s:

1) Batman in Batman v Superman
2) Spider-Man in The Amazing Spider-Man
3) Superman in Batman v Superman

If we are talking about those who are meant to be *****, and we like them for it. Probably Deadpool, then Iron Man, then Doctor Strange. Logan should come off that way but Hugh Jackman is too charismatic and likable to be a *****ebag even when Logan is swearing at kids. Funny how that is.

 

[chamber-music]

Iron Man - Intentionally made to be a ass**** as it is part of his character. I don't think anyone could stand to be around him in the long term. I can even somewhat see how Stane grew to dislike him.

Batfleck. I don't care about his reasoning for why he became a homicidal maniac.

Not movie but the Netflix Defenders no kill rule is annoying when all the majority of the movie heroes kill and are still considered heroes. Some of the Defenders could of saved lives if they took out the villains before they had a chance to kill innocent people.

 

[acedrake]

Awesome choices! I'll throw Iron Man for the sole reason that he is responsible for every act that puts the world in danger. He is the worse hero due to his incredible arrogance and the most childlike and his two-faced demeanor is so ugly. Another two are Vision and Rhodey. Vision for his "causality" speech in Civil War. He proposed that the mere presence of the Avengers causes people to try and take tgem out. But very conveniently he did not acuse Stark directly but the Avengers in general. If he truly believes why not just take them all out and presto Ultron 2.0 ver 10. And at the airport he tells Wanda, as I said "catastrophe", but who was the actual bastard that almost killed Rhodey?....Right vision. And the ******* has the cojones to blame everyone but team *******man.

 

[Osiris-Rex]

What is a 4hole hero? Sounds sort of perverted.

 

[Batmannerism]

Awesome choices! I'll throw Iron Man for the sole reason that he is responsible for every act that puts the world in danger. He is the worse hero due to his incredible arrogance and the most childlike and his two-faced demeanor is so ugly. Another two are Vision and Rhodey. Vision for his "causality" speech in Civil War. He proposed that the mere presence of the Avengers causes people to try and take tgem out. But very conveniently he did not acuse Stark directly but the Avengers in general. If he truly believes why not just take them all out and presto Ultron 2.0 ver 10. And at the airport he tells Wanda, as I said "catastrophe", but who was the actual bastard that almost killed Rhodey?....Right vision. And the ******* has the cojones to blame everyone but team *******man.

Have to agree on Stark - up until Civil War anyway- his arrogance put the entire world at risk a couple of times. In Civil War he comes across as more sympathetic because he's essentially trying to atone for past misdeeds and get a glimpse of him in a very vulnerable state (when seeing his parents murdered) but up until that point he was a strong contender for one of the MCU's bigger *****e bags.

As for Rhodes, yeah he actually called in the strike that crippled him - I mean what would have happened if that blast had actually hit Sam, who wasn't anywhere near as heavily armoured as Rhodey ? I do feel sorry for him, as paralysis is something you wouldn't wish on anyone. However, Rhodes main reason for signing the accords seemed to be that Ross told him to - as in he's being a "good little soldier" , which seemed weird as he should have seen something in the fact that the greatest soldier in history wasn't keen on signing at all (and was sitting there right across the table from him).

Still I don't think either of these characters can claim biggest 4shole honours, more like "jerk of the month" awards.

 

[Chesterfield]

Awesome choices! I'll throw Iron Man for the sole reason that he is responsible for every act that puts the world in danger. He is the worse hero due to his incredible arrogance and the most childlike and his two-faced demeanor is so ugly. Another two are Vision and Rhodey. Vision for his "causality" speech in Civil War. He proposed that the mere presence of the Avengers causes people to try and take tgem out. But very conveniently he did not acuse Stark directly but the Avengers in general. If he truly believes why not just take them all out and presto Ultron 2.0 ver 10. And at the airport he tells Wanda, as I said "catastrophe", but who was the actual bastard that almost killed Rhodey?....Right vision. And the ******* has the cojones to blame everyone but team *******man.

Haha! Your post sounds like a personal grievance. In any case, I nominate spider-man in both ASM movies. He was just an unlikeable dick through and through. People can say what they want about Tony but at least he's entertaining.

 

[Rowsdower!]

What is a 4hole hero? Sounds sort of perverted.

Yeah, I've never heard that term either.

I'm thinking about starting a thread about the biggest 5hole heroes in movies (superheroes who are good at hockey).

 

[2kt09]

Not movie but the Netflix Defenders no kill rule is annoying when all the majority of the movie heroes kill and are still considered heroes. Some of the Defenders could have saved lives if they took out the villains before they had a chance to kill innocent people.

I may have overlooked Luke or Danny having one.
Any hero still parading a no-kill rule after the worst they can dish out being still pretty bad is a 4hole in my book.

 

[The Batman]

Wolverine in the original X-Men trilogy.

Largely unlikable and has a creepy fixation on a woman he doesn't know very well, acts like a jerk when it isn't warranted.

 

[Flint Marko]

Affleck's Batman takes the cake, with Garfield's Spider-man as the second.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Wolverine in the original X-Men trilogy.

Largely unlikable and has a creepy fixation on a woman he doesn't know very well, acts like a jerk when it isn't warranted.

This is easily the best answer here, but I'll trim down original trilogy to the first movie. He's easily more tolerable in the second entry, goes back to being a jerk in the third, but is still rather tame compared to the first film.

 

[The Batman]

This is easily the best answer here, but I'll trim down original trilogy to the first movie. He's easily more tolerable in the second entry, goes back to being a jerk in the third, but is still rather tame compared to the first film.

Even in X2 and Last Stand, I can't really stand him. He's definitely at his worst in X1, though.

 

[Visualiza]

^I think his best portrayal was in DoFP. Wasn't the central character, wasn't too melodramatic, played off of the leads appropriately, made for a few well timed gags, and was generally a more well adjusted character than in any other movie he's been in.