Bill Richardson: A Serious Candidate

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  1. Matt

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    He is the most qualified. He's also the only one in the recent debates who's tried to stay focused on why he's qualified and what he brings to the table instead of jumping on the "Let's all bash Hillary" train. But he's fat, homely and Mexican...he'll never get elected. He'd be an awesome VP, though.


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    I was watching a debate and I found this really distracting.
    If only we could transplant his brain into Christian Bale's body.
     
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    I like this guy more than any of them...and if I'm not mistaken he has the most experience when dealing with foreign countries.
     
  5. Matt

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    Yeah, I really think that is what he is shooting for. VP or Secretary of State. However, his only chance of getting VP is if the two of the big three who don't get elected (Hilary, Edwards, or Obama) both turn it down.
     
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    There's a lot of rumbling that Wesley Clark is lobbying to get a VP slot with whoever wins the nod, too. As usual, it's a popularity contest not a search for the most qualified.

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  7. Matt

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    The only one I can see giving Clark the VP nod is Hilary. I think he is probably her first choice as he balances the ticket well and has the whole white male thing going for him.
     
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    Yeah, I've heard him being tied to her name the most of all the candidates.

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    Speaking of Clark, I wonder what would've happened if he stayed on the Iowa ballot? I think he could've beat Kerry in Iowa and carried the state, in which case...he could very well be president right now.
     
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    I'd take him over what we have now in a heartbeat. :starts time machine:

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  11. Matt

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    Here's how I see the break down.

    Hilary - Clark has it wrapped up.

    Obama - Will offer to Hilary, but she will decline as she clearly does not want to be number 2. So it will be a southern, white, male governor. Possibly Tim Kaine of Virgina. He handled the entire Virginia Tech shooting well, has been using Warner's policies to keep on the top of the approval ratings and has experience that could balance Obama's ticket. Plus he has publicly endorsed Obama.

    Edwards - Will also offer it to Hilary. She will decline. I doubt he will offer it to Obama though. Richardson seems like a good balance to his ticket. Has the experience Edwards lacks, is a minority and his hispanic ethnicity may help carry Flordia which will once again be a swing state. Another possibility is Ed Rendell of Pennsylvania. He polls well in PA. Beat Lynn Swann by a landslide. PA will also be a swing state again, and Edwards, being a southerner could use a northern yankee to balance the ticket. But Edwards is literally so white, I really think he will want a minority, which is why he would probably go Richardson.
     
  12. Matt

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    Bush's biggest rallying point in 2008 was his stances on being pro-defense and anti-gay. He really couldn't get away with calling a retired general soft on defense, so all he would've had was the anti-gay card. Would that have carried him through? Who knows.
     
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    Could possibly go that way. I could see the party putting some pressure on Hillary to bring Obama in as her VP running mate, though, so as to start grooming him for the big chair after a run or two on her part.

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  14. Matt

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    There has been so much mud slinging between the two though. I think it would be very hard for them to come off as sincere if they ran together.
     
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    Ironically, being a military man could work AGAINST Clark in this election thanks to all the crap the Bush Administration has pulled overseas and with our troops. People are really pissed off due to this issue and I know so many people, including some die-hard Republicans, who feel misled and deceived over the Iraq debacle. I think the big issue in the next election is what we're going to do to get out of there with as much finesse as we can manage.

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  16. hippie_hunter

    hippie_hunter The King is Back!

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    I would really like to see Richardson as Secretary of State.
     
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    True, but stranger things have happened. And when has sincere had anything to do with it? Bush and Cheney have NEVER come off as anything remotely resembling sincere and they managed to get in there for two terms.

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    Yeah, this election, once the REAL debates start (the general election ones) is going to come down to getting the hell out of Iraq.
     
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    I would really like to see Richardson as President :csad:
     
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    Good point, but Bush and Cheney weren't attacking each other up to three months before announcing Cheney would be Bush's running mate. The American voters are a fickle bunch. You can lie to them time and time again and its fine. But if you decide to run with someone you were basically calling an ass hole a few months before, they take issue.
     
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    I know. It's very scary what motivates people to vote the way they do in this country. Your ass hole comment makes me think of Bush at that press conference several years ago, unaware that his mic was on. He points at a reporter and says "You see that guy? He's an ass hole.". I don't even remember who he was talking to. I was just in shock that he was dumb enough to do that while he was wearing a mic and on camera, regardless of whether someone told him the stuff was turned off or not. Haha! :D

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  22. Matt

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    And the worst part is, Bush supporters used that to show what a "regular joe" he is :csad:
     
  23. hippie_hunter

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    I feel that Richardson would much better serve this nation as Secretary of State. Just like how I feel that Colin Powell would be a great Secretary of Defense. I think that he's one of the best foreign policy experts in this country and his ideals would do good for this world.
     
  24. Matt

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    I do as well, but if he isn't making the decisions his ideals will quickly become dilluted as he is forced to fall in line with the administration's policies, much like what happened to Powell.
     
  25. hippie_hunter

    hippie_hunter The King is Back!

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    Powell suffered because the rest of the Bush Administration was filled with asshats who saw Powell as a popular person whose approval ratings could be used to their advantage.

    Put Powell and Richardson in a non-asshat administration, it'd be awesome.
     

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