The Avengers Bits you missed/ can't remember/ couldn't hear

[Golgo-13]

Loki letting out a wimper after he was smashed by Hulk and Tony wiping sweat from his forehead after standing toe to toe with Rogers after their intense talk on who Tony is.

What I loved about that is nobody has ever gone toe to toe with Tony and actually made him sweat. He looked shaken almost. And Steve isn't even the bad guy.

Yeah, i saw that as Loki's inluence through his staff. That whole scene is awesome. Btw, when Thor says 'you humans are so petty, and tiny'.....was it just me, or did Tor sound drunk?!

 

[PunyGod]

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[Doctor Jones]

It could just be me, but I took that to possibly be more a result of Loki influencing/nudging the tension between them up a couple levels in the entire room, than of him actually being shaken by going toe to toe with Steve (it reminded me a bit of when Loki walks by the lab on his way to being taken to the detention cell, Bruce takes off his glasses and pinches the bridge of his nose like he's developed a sudden headache).

If that makes sense.

Yeah, i saw that as Loki's inluence through his staff. That whole scene is awesome. Btw, when Thor says 'you humans are so petty, and tiny'.....was it just me, or did Tor sound drunk?!

Got it. That all makes sense actually.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Thanks for the transcript on Loki and Widow's exchange! Makes it much clearer now.

Yes, he said bag of weed, hence the 'mild drug reference' warning for the PG-13 rating

(side note I am now in the theater waiting for viewing #4 to start )

Samuel L. Jackson's big joke about Hulk's "bag of weed" makes more sense now

might be way too late for the party here but i'll still ask away.

when stark asks banner how he relaxes, did he say "a bag of weed" as the last option?

As much as i like that line, i would have preferred if they had used a game that pretty much everyone knows like Super Mario Bros, etc. Most of the ppl in the movie theater didn't get it the 3 times i saw it.

But it makes more sense -- they're fighting an alien invasion.

Loki letting out a wimper after he was smashed by Hulk and Tony wiping sweat from his forehead after standing toe to toe with Rogers after their intense talk on who Tony is.

What I loved about that is nobody has ever gone toe to toe with Tony and actually made him sweat. He looked shaken almost. And Steve isn't even the bad guy.

Bingo. A lot of people seem confused by this but it was pretty clear cut to me. Loki definitely was *subtly* influencing the team while he was on the carrier, either thru his own powers or thru the power of the staff. The dramatic upside down camera move to the glowing staff during the argument was a pretty obvious clue. There's also the headaches that you mention and when Thor calls the humans tiny the camera angle is off and it has a dream like quality.

According to the last scene of Thor and the Fury's Big Week comic Loki also had some degree of influence over Selvig while he was working for SHIELD.

The confusion comes from the fact that he has to touch someone's heart with the staff to gain *full* control over them and turn them into loyal zombies.

I think Stark was "sweating" when he first arrived at the tower and saw Loki across the walkway. If you look at his face he seemed a little intimidated but he tries to play it cool. Great performance by RDJ.

Well despite the staff's influence, what makes that scene and Rogers and Stark's confrontation so engaging really is how real and believable it is. As in, it isn't out of character -- that sort of subtle manipulation, where the character in question isn't aware of being controlled, that makes Loki a more threatening force. In fact, I'll say that these one-on-one interactions and the subtle nudges he made throughout the movie were a more menacing portrayal than having him as a Super-Troll who gets pwned every time he's making an appearance.

(i mean, it's wonderful humour, and something i'm open for, but that the one-on-one mind games really made Loki the God of Mischief)

 

[JaD]

After seeing the movie again I just realized Iron Man blurts out "Call it Cap." just before Captain America gives out the orders for everyone during the last battle.

I personally think it's better without the "Call it Cap." line.

 

[PunyGod]

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[Spider-Who?]

There were a few jokes that almost passed me by, like the Galaga reference (I had no idea what it was until I actually saw the agent playing a game). I also thought the Cap & 10 dollars thing was supposed to be an outdated way of him tipping the black for some reason, until I remembered the bet earlier. The humour in this thing is just fantastic, definitely reminded me of some hilarious moments in Firefly and Serenity.

It was customary to tip pilots at the beginning of a flight. That is how I initially saw the scene until I remembered the bet, but it's cool since it works both ways.

 

[Mysteryman]

Maybe this has been answered:

After BW is 'interviewed' Coulson calls her and tells her to get the big guy. She assumes it's Tony, but Coulson says no, THE big guy.

She then says something in russian, does anyone know what she said?

Not sure what she said ,
But it sounded like the russian Equivalent of "Oy Vey ".

 

[Lady Marion]

Not sure what she said ,
But it sounded like the russian Equivalent of "Oy Vey ".

Was already answered:

She said "bozhe moi" which translates into Oh my God.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Not sure what she said ,
But it sounded like the russian Equivalent of "Oy Vey ".

yup, she says "bozze moi"

 

[Golgo-13]

There were a few jokes that almost passed me by, like the Galaga reference (I had no idea what it was until I actually saw the agent playing a game). I also thought the Cap & 10 dollars thing was supposed to be an outdated way of him tipping the black for some reason, until I remembered the bet earlier. The humour in this thing is just fantastic, definitely reminded me of some hilarious moments in Firefly and Serenity.

Tipping 'the black'?

Where are you from, Mississippi?

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Ive seen the movie twice and totally missed this. My friend just told me that when Thor and Hulk are taking down the leviathan, Thor's hammer catches lightning as it smashes down on the big wedge of metal. It means the wedge had two purposes: 1) to act as a scalpel, penetrating the hide and providing access to the insides and 2) to act as a conductor of Thor's lightning attack which effectively cooked the bastard from the inside out. This makes so much more sense than the wedge itself doing critical damage all by itself. Coolness!

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Another miss (because of all the laughter) was the THUD sound Thor made after being sucker punched by old green eyes.

 

[warhorse78]

You know, I have seen this movie 4 times now, and I still have a hard time making out Tony's quip to Hawkeye about "clench tight Legolas".

 

[Webfoot Hero]

You know, I have seen this movie 4 times now, and I still have a hard time making out Tony's quip to Hawkeye about "clench tight Legolas".

That's about all there is to that exchange. It's so quick that you almost miss it.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

i think he says "clench up"

 

[Drizzle]

I just watched it for the fifth time yesterday, and it was the first time I noticed that just before Hulk is surrounded by the Chitauri ships during the battle, he grabs one alien and squeezes its head until it explodes with PG-13 friendly alien blood.

 

[TomPiltoff]

As much as i like that line, i would have preferred if they had used a game that pretty much everyone knows like Super Mario Bros, etc. Most of the ppl in the movie theater didn't get it the 3 times i saw it.

I think it's safe to say that most people know what Galaga is, it only came out in 1981.

 

[Dark Raven]

I think it's safe to say that most people know what Galaga is, it only came out in 1981.

I didn't know what it was, but I have heard of Galaxian. I didn't realise it was a sequel to that. Wouldn't it have been better to have had something universally known like Space Invaders or Pac Man though?

 

[TomPiltoff]

I just don't accept the premise that Galaga is somehow super obscure. Or that more universal = automatically better.

I think basically the only people that don't know Galaga are either little kids or not really plugged in to pop culture. Neither of which are bad things mind you, I just think most people got it.

 

[Xeno]

I didn't know what it was, but I have heard of Galaxian. I didn't realise it was a sequel to that. Wouldn't it have been better to have had something universally known like Space Invaders or Pac Man though?

Why go with something so obvious? Even people who didn't know about Galaga in particular picked up on the fact that the agent was playing an antiquated video game, which was an oblique commentary on the state of SHIELD's computers, as Tony intended. The audience got the reference and reacted, which was what Whedon was aiming for.

 

[Xeno]

Tipping 'the black'?

Where are you from, Mississippi?

I wondered where a ridiculous assumption like that came from, too. I am Black and I live in the South. There was never a time when White people tipped Black people for no reason. Steve already knew that Nick Fury was his superior officer anyway, so there is no context in which he would assume that Fury was a servant. Unless, of course, one is projecting racism onto Captain America, a character who created an integrated special ops unit at a time when the US Army was definitely, completely segregated. I know this because I have relatives who served in every conflict from World War II on.

 

[Drizzle]

As much as i like that line, i would have preferred if they had used a game that pretty much everyone knows like Super Mario Bros, etc. Most of the ppl in the movie theater didn't get it the 3 times i saw it.

I thought it worked okay. It could have just as easily been a Facebook joke, considering that's the one website that everyone visits when they're supposed to be working.

 

[Joeyjojo72]

Galaxian was the predecessor to Galaga I believe. Namco.

 

[hitmanyr2k]

On my fourth viewing I caught how Hawkeye was searching for his next target before even shooting the arrow at his primary target lol.