Black Panther: Should they include the heart shaped herb?

[MessiahDecoy123]

What do you guys think?

 

[Mike Murdock]

I think they should include it, at least as a ceremony that T'Challa participates in. Whether they go into any detail of what it is and what it does is a different question. I'd probably prefer they keep it vague.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Absolutely the herb should be in the film. T'challa like Cap needs some kind of rationale why he's blowing through goons like a one man army. Stan and Jack came up with the herb as the super human justification for Panther's insane physical abilities. It's part of the character's history. I say keep it.

 

[metaphysician]

I don't see why they shouldn't. That said, I'm in the "have it mainly heighten his senses" camp. Black Panther doesn't really need to have physical stats matching Cap, because he has so many other, much more interesting and distinct, tricks.

 

[Marathon]

Yes.

 

[Chance Jackson]

Yes, its tchalla's super soldier serum it lets him go toe to toe with cap as an equal

 

[Slick]

Yeah they should its part of his history

 

[Gamma Goliath]

I dont see why they couldn't include it. Hell arrow had some magic herb that cured his ailments. Panther should have his that gives him his abilities.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Definitely the herb, but I agree that it should be treated with some vagueness. Also, it should be something that not just anyone can take and get panther powers; it should be like the Water of Life from Dune or something, where it kills 99/100 people who try it.

 

[Lantern Venom]

It's essential that the herb is referenced now. Panther showed speed and strength far beyond human capabilities. His suit is responsible for his claws and perhaps (judging by CA:CW), some of his durability, but it can't possibly account for everything we saw him do.

 

[Chance Jackson]

It's essential that the herb is referenced now. Panther showed speed and strength far beyond human capabilities. His suit is responsible for his claws and perhaps (judging by CA:CW), some of his durability, but it can't possibly account for everything we saw him do.

he was a match for Barnes outside of the suit

 

[metaphysician]

I say, play up a mystic angle on the herb: its not a naturally-growing source of SSS, its the center of a royal ritual that, if done properly by a suitable individual, gives them the BP powers. Not like Dr Strange won't already be out, so people will be more used to occult magic.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I'd rather the plant be rare than magical.

A plant being a natural form of super soldier serum isn't that far fetched in Marvel Universe.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Maybe the plant can be a byproduct of the fact that this is the only country with vibranium in the ground.

I'm thinking of the Command & Conquer video game franchise, where the alien metal crash lands to Earth to create tiberium, and also has mutating effects on the soil and plantlife in the area.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Maybe the plant can be a byproduct of the fact that this is the only country with vibranium in the ground.

I'm thinking of the Command & Conquer video game franchise, where the alien metal crash lands to Earth to create tiberium, and also has mutating effects on the soil and plantlife in the area.

I'd be cool with that.

Way better than a magic explanation.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Maybe the plant can be a byproduct of the fact that this is the only country with vibranium in the ground.

I'm thinking of the Command & Conquer video game franchise, where the alien metal crash lands to Earth to create tiberium, and also has mutating effects on the soil and plantlife in the area.

I was thinking exactly the same thing when reading an article about BP on Collider and how they could include the herb. They could easily explain the herb like that (which I think is how Marvel explains it properties in the comics) and/or possibly that it reacts with the right person's DNA to give them those abilities.

 

[Golgo-13]

Definitely the herb, but I agree that it should be treated with some vagueness. Also, it should be something that not just anyone can take and get panther powers; it should be like the Water of Life from Dune or something, where it kills 99/100 people who try it.

I like that.

 

[RockSP]

Yes, they should keep it, but just call it The Heart or The Panther's Heart or something. Never liked the name.

 

[Boy Scout]

I don't see why not.

 

[Donald Thomas]

I'd rather the plant be rare than magical.

A plant being a natural form of super soldier serum isn't that far fetched in Marvel Universe.

Aloha,
Agreed. Besides. The heart shaped herb was in existence before the meteor came to Wakanda. There has always been a Black Panther who was the greatest warrior of the nation. Only after beating the best within Wakanda can you attempt to acquire the heart shaped herb. If you are not worthy "YOU DIE". Interesting issue I've been talking about for years now. In Spider-Man The Other story arc-T'Challa gave Peter Parker a bowl of the heart shaped herb to cure him. it did not but it didn't kill him either. This was never fully explained as to why. Is Peter a King?
Spidey rules except in Wakanda

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

Aloha,
Agreed. Besides. The heart shaped herb was in existence before the meteor came to Wakanda. There has always been a Black Panther who was the greatest warrior of the nation. Only after beating the best within Wakanda can you attempt to acquire the heart shaped herb. If you are not worthy "YOU DIE". Interesting issue I've been talking about for years now. In Spider-Man The Other story arc-T'Challa gave Peter Parker a bowl of the heart shaped herb to cure him. it did not but it didn't kill him either. This was never fully explained as to why. Is Peter a King?
Spidey rules except in Wakanda

Hey Donald, what did you think of Civil War's Spider-man and Peter Parker?

 

[sabetoonth]

Yes, they should keep it, but just call it The Heart or The Panther's Heart or something. Never liked the name.

I agree, give it a real name, not a description.

 

[Neno_Kos]

I think they already hinted it in Civil War. With T'Challa [BLACKOUT]withoutsuit going to-to-toe with Bucky.[/BLACKOUT]

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

I agree, give it a real name, not a description.

I think it sounds tribal.

Plus it points out that the plant is naturally shaped like a heart which suggest it's destined to enhance the prowess of those worthy.

 

[Wylie Times]

They gotta have the herb IMO, because it's supposed to link T'Challa to Bast (who has already been referenced).

The mysticism of Wakanda should be present in the film. Part of what makes the nations so interesting is seeing mysticism and advanced technology exist in the same place. Those things both being present in Wakanda often creates a clash between more modern Wakandans and traditionalists.