Discussion in 'Black Panther' started by Thread Manager, Mar 11, 2018.
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Lol I'd say, at the very least, repeat viewings is as much of a result of how good the film is, as anything else. Of course social relevance is one of the factors working in its favor. But the "unknowns" (predominantly black cast, lesser known hero) is exactly why most thought there was a cap on just how successful this movie could be at the BO. That it has shattered all expectations speaks to something more at play and that something more is clearly the quality of the movie itself. You don't have to agree that it's a great or even good movie but the majority of the audience seems to think so.
Two MCU films got an A+ cinemascore.
I think that gives a hint of how re-watchable and enjoyable the movie is for general audiences. It's why BP will cross 600 million domestically as well.
This has been a fascinating discussion.
IMO, of course the movie isn't "perfect". There's no such thing as a perfect movie.
That being said it is a great movie. I don't care how "culturally relevant" something is, that doesn't always guarantee ONE BILLION in less than a month and multiple repeat viewings. People don't do repeat viewings for mediocre or bad movies.
While I respect everyone's opinion, and I'm sure there are many people who did NOT like the movie, you're pretty much in the minority if you didn't like it.
FWIW, I think BP is in AT LEAST the top 3 of MCU movies.
After reading the reviews, seeing the movie a couple of times, etc I thought that would be the consensus. Guess not.
Its the best to me. Despite it's CGI flaws and not as good as Russo action scenes I still think with story, characters, performances, score etc are what puts it at the top.
Again I still thought it would be a consensus top 3 MCU film around here. I can see people saying Winter Soldier is better (amazing action/solid story) and Avengers (A true I remember first seeing this type movie)
Maybe time will bring more people to seeing it as a top 3 MCU film though.
You're very naive. The nerdosphere is loaded with reactionaries. There is no way this was gonna be number one or even three for many people in nerd spaces. But it's the reception outside in the real world that matters. You should focus on that.
It's my #2 after Civil War
People are different and expect and want different things out of their comic book films. As I said before, BP focuses on world building and story over action so it's not going to be to everyone's taste.
Personally, it's easily in the top 3. The things that Coogler nails in the film, he REALLY nailed. The character work, the social commentary and themes it brings forth and tackles in a serious manner. All this is why I think BP along with TWS and Civil War are head over heels better than the rest of the MCU which are pretty much all assembly line fluff.
Yeah, I find this very rewatchable. Still have a few more cinema trips left in me I think.
I dont know yet if this is a Top 3 MCU film for me, but its absolutely in the Top 5.
Black Panther On Track To Top Avengers Domestically
It's in my top 3. It's tied with The Winter Soldier as my favorite movie.
Yeah, that's my feeling as well.
My top 3:
3. Iron Man
even with all the kills killmonger had piled up, he still didn't have the sense to kill T'challa properly, stupidity in its finest
Hearing my mom say Wakanda Forever makes my geek heart proud.
T'Challa was only alive thanks to the Jubari tribe who found him at the river, and even then he needed the Heart Shape Herb remedy to bring him back from the dead.
Stupidity? Really? You did see him throw a multiple stab wounded T'Challa off a high rise waterfall, right?
I'd argue that the actions scenes as a whole were good-to-great. The only fight scene that "struggled" was T'Challa vs. Killmonger in the Vibranium cave. That's the last action scene people remember so it colors their opinion of it.
But think about it. There were, what, 5 action scenes in the movie
BP vs Kidnappers, T'Challa vs M'Baku, Casino/car chase,
T'Challa vs Killmonger & the Final war/fight scene
. All of them were good or great. The CGI in the final fight was "spotty" and folks seem to be overreacting about it.
The first action scene was pretty muddy. But I suspect that shall look better in the small screen ala the trailers.
For me, it's Winter Soldier as my no.1 while BP ties with Civil War as my 2nd fav
Glad to see BP/Wakanda being heavily forefront of the promotions for Infinity War.
It's great that Marvel didn't shoehorn in Cap, Falcon, SW and others just to try and sell BP to all audiences. They let the story focus on him (as it should) and it really resonated.
Some Chinese audiences thought that the movie was too black and PC.
^Amazing how much work needs to be done to change people's perceptions around the world.
Hollywood really did a number on black people.