BLM Protests Across The World

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Yeah what was happening during the protests has set a very unhealthy precedent.
 
I don’t think enough people realize how much of the “rioting” last summer was cops going ape on people minding their own business. There’s hours and hours of footage of it.
 
It may not be the most specific answer but I have a pretty good guess that the police were involved in her death. Either through incompetence or criminal misconduct although being the police I would venture to say both are the same.
 
I don’t think enough people realize how much of the “rioting” last summer was cops going ape on people minding their own business. There’s hours and hours of footage of it.

You missed the part where people where burning and ripping apart neightborhoods. You missed the part where people and officer where being hurt. You missed all that didn't you. I've talked to officer that where involved in those peaceful protest some of whom served in combat. All of them described what was nothing more then a war zone.

So no the police didn't go ape on people. The people lost their minds where destroy everything in their path and trying to hurt officers in the process. Now what would you do when faced with an angry mob that out for your blood.

One of the officers I talked to was hit with rocks, bottles, and all sorts of crap very early on in these so called peaceful protest. He was pulling over 12 hour shifts for almost two weeks and was tired and his nerves where frayed from the constant berating and attacks from the public. He wasn't alone on that front. You expect them to play nice.

Im sorry but what I saw on TV wasn't peaceful protesting. It was rioting, looting, burning down anything in their path.
 

You should probably do your home work better. In 2020 their where 241 black people shot by police. In same year 457 white people where shot by officers. Mind you this does not separate those who where armed and not armed. When you look at crime statics black people commit 52% of the violent crimes in this nation and yet they make up 13% of the population. White people make up 60% of the population and commit 40% of the crimes. Now based on those statics black people have far more run in with law enforcement then white people do. Yet white people where shot more then black people where.

I can take it a step further if you like. Lets do this. So do you know how many officers work around the country. When I say officer I mean beat cops. Their are approximately 700,000 officer that work around the country. Officer work 12 hour shifts usually 5 to 6 days a week. In a given 12 hours they will have any where from 10 to 12 encounters with the public. This means everything from pulling people over to answering 911 calls to everything. When you do the math going with lower number of encounters it comes out to 16,380,000,000 per year (roughly). So what this tells us is that officers make more arrest that end without some one dying then they do with some one dying or at least getting shot. Yet they are still treated like monsters that are out to get people.

Not saying there aren't problems that need to be addressed but polices officer are not nearly as bad as some one believe. There a lot of good officer out their trying to do a very thank less job and people are lumping the good officer in with the bad. All people see are the bad officers because that's all the media focus on. I have lot of friends in law enformcement who are good people and do a lot of good things for their community. They do it because they genuinely care.

Yet almost all of them are leaving the force in next year or two. Their tired and their sick of being treated like crap. For years they got up every day put on that badge and put their lives on the line. Now they are faced with the reality that they can defend themselves because if they do they could face criminal charges. Its just not worth putting their family through that. So you have a lot of good honest cops leaving the force.

Now you got city like Minneapolis who are trying to dissolved there police force when they faced with massive crime wave and murder going on. This is embolding the criminals. Chicago which made massive cuts to their police force and lost a lot of cops are facing a wave of death they haven't seen sense the mob ruled the streets.

So it's not as simple as you want it to be.
 
You missed the part where people where burning and ripping apart neightborhoods. You missed the part where people and officer where being hurt. You missed all that didn't you. I've talked to officer that where involved in those peaceful protest some of whom served in combat. All of them described what was nothing more then a war zone.

Probably because the police in this country are so heavily militarized anything that involves them becomes a war zone.

So no the police didn't go ape on people. The people lost their minds where destroy everything in their path and trying to hurt officers in the process. Now what would you do when faced with an angry mob that out for your blood.

I would simply not be apart of a system that oppresses minorities and the low-income communities

One of the officers I talked to was hit with rocks, bottles, and all sorts of crap very early on in these so called peaceful protest. He was pulling over 12 hour shifts for almost two weeks and was tired and his nerves where frayed from the constant berating and attacks from the public. He wasn't alone on that front. You expect them to play nice.

Oh yeah? Well guess what? Those rocks, bottles, etc. aren’t even close to the state-sanctioned brutality that police impose on people any single day. I have absolutley no sympathy for anyone crying about rocks when they have tear gas at their disposal. And attacks from the public? Oh poor them, having to deal with the ramifications of their own actions for once

Im sorry but what I saw on TV wasn't peaceful protesting. It was rioting, looting, burning down anything in their path.

I don’t particularly care what you saw on TV.
 
You missed the part where people where burning and ripping apart neightborhoods. You missed the part where people and officer where being hurt. You missed all that didn't you. I've talked to officer that where involved in those peaceful protest some of whom served in combat. All of them described what was nothing more then a war zone.

So no the police didn't go ape on people. The people lost their minds where destroy everything in their path and trying to hurt officers in the process. Now what would you do when faced with an angry mob that out for your blood.

One of the officers I talked to was hit with rocks, bottles, and all sorts of crap very early on in these so called peaceful protest. He was pulling over 12 hour shifts for almost two weeks and was tired and his nerves where frayed from the constant berating and attacks from the public. He wasn't alone on that front. You expect them to play nice.

Im sorry but what I saw on TV wasn't peaceful protesting. It was rioting, looting, burning down anything in their path.
Explain.

Assad and Cindy Awaijane, who own the Stop-N-Shop at 17th and Lake streets, had decided that, despite losing everything inside their store, they weren’t going to let the building burn. People from the neighborhood weren’t going to let that happen either. As the city-imposed curfew approached, the Awaijane family, joined by a group of friends from the community, set up camp in front of their store to keep the chaos happening just beyond their parking lot in check.

Shortly after 10 p.m., a skirmish between protestors and heavily armed cops took place in front of the Stop-N-Shop. Police fired tear gas canisters and baton rounds at anything that moved. One caught a VICE News producer in the lower back, below his rib cage, while filming people attempting to throw some of the smoking cans back at police

The showdown lasted about 30 minutes before things quieted down. But the brief calm was fleeting. Not long after officers had left and the protestors dispersed did a horde of more police vehicles arrive. This time, though, the Stop-N-Shop was their target.

At least a dozen officers jumped out of squad cars, SUVs, and a white van, and began firing at the Awaijanes and their friends, who’d come to help them protect their business. VICE News journalists were also targeted, even after repeatedly identifying themselves to police as press.

The newly released video now shows what happened immediately before the incident. A half-mile away, under the Lake Street light rail station, the same cops who would later storm the Awaijane’s store were caught on Sgt. Bittell’s body camera milling about in their riot gear, waiting for their next “mission.
 
You missed the part where people where burning and ripping apart neightborhoods. You missed the part where people and officer where being hurt. You missed all that didn't you. I've talked to officer that where involved in those peaceful protest some of whom served in combat. All of them described what was nothing more then a war zone.

So no the police didn't go ape on people. The people lost their minds where destroy everything in their path and trying to hurt officers in the process. Now what would you do when faced with an angry mob that out for your blood.

One of the officers I talked to was hit with rocks, bottles, and all sorts of crap very early on in these so called peaceful protest. He was pulling over 12 hour shifts for almost two weeks and was tired and his nerves where frayed from the constant berating and attacks from the public. He wasn't alone on that front. You expect them to play nice.

Im sorry but what I saw on TV wasn't peaceful protesting. It was rioting, looting, burning down anything in their path.

This is complete and utter garbage. What we witnessed was mostly peaceful protesters asking to be treated with human dignity turned into violent physical assaults by police gangs aided and abetted by their chums the Proud Boys and other far right white supremacist groups. I get that peaceful protests against police brutality upsets certain types of people, but we saw the over the top police brutality by militarized police with our own damn eyes. Maybe the police treating protesters like they are in a war zone might be the problem?

"You expect them to play nice." No, I want my police force to not punish those they disagree with politically and just do their damn jobs.
 
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You missed the part where people where burning and ripping apart neightborhoods. You missed the part where people and officer where being hurt. You missed all that didn't you. I've talked to officer that where involved in those peaceful protest some of whom served in combat. All of them described what was nothing more then a war zone.

So no the police didn't go ape on people. The people lost their minds where destroy everything in their path and trying to hurt officers in the process. Now what would you do when faced with an angry mob that out for your blood.

One of the officers I talked to was hit with rocks, bottles, and all sorts of crap very early on in these so called peaceful protest. He was pulling over 12 hour shifts for almost two weeks and was tired and his nerves where frayed from the constant berating and attacks from the public. He wasn't alone on that front. You expect them to play nice.

Im sorry but what I saw on TV wasn't peaceful protesting. It was rioting, looting, burning down anything in their path.


Then you are incapable of distinguishing from the protests that happened and the looting and rioting.

And PS... I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE RIOTING AND LOOTING IN NYC FOR THREE NIGHTS. At my job.

I saw this literally for 8 hours a night, from 11pm to 7am.

But guess what?

I'm all for POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY which is more than I can say for those who are on purpose not willing to even begin to understand what the issues at play are.

And no... the protesting is LEGAL and there's no need for police incited violence against protestors OR the media when covering them.

Rioting and looting where not the provence of the protests and when the willfully ignorant try to spin it as such they let the mask slip.

People want the police to stop using their badges as shields for everything from petty theivery to murder but apparently that doesn't matter to those who are ALWAYS claiming to be about how we should limit the power of government.

It is BECAUSE you all refuse to understand that we have a deep crisis of policing in this country, from racist poilicy to the fact that we know that the "Q" conspiracy is zipping throught he ranks just like the Covid-19 virus is, felling cop after cop and yet you'll find them fighting against the vax even though we know the virus is killing more of them than ANYTHING ELSE right now.

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Cities were in no way even close to being "burned to the ground" or whatever bull**** imagery you choose to believe in.








Where was all this "carnage" when the cops were doing this TO PEOPLE IN THEIR OWN HOMES?


Wake up. Cops are public employees. Not super heroes. Not gods. Men we pay. And they have been literally allowed to get away with murder for decades because there are too many that just don't want to reckon with how bad policing has gotten and are oh so easily led around by the nose via the lowest common denominator appeals to emotion.

You want to be concerned with riots? Stop supporting cops no matter what when they are just flawed people that need things like rules and consequences for actions. You give the public real safety and justice then you'll less likely create the environments where these riots happen.


 
You should probably do your home work better. In 2020 their where 241 black people shot by police. In same year 457 white people where shot by officers. Mind you this does not separate those who where armed and not armed. When you look at crime statics black people commit 52% of the violent crimes in this nation and yet they make up 13% of the population. White people make up 60% of the population and commit 40% of the crimes. Now based on those statics black people have far more run in with law enforcement then white people do. Yet white people where shot more then black people where.

lol, only in America is “white people get killed by cops too!” A pro-cop argument. And yeah, black people are more likely to be convicted of the same crimes that white people commit. There’s a systematic bias in the justice system, I agree. And also, the fact that black people are 13% of the population and yet the death count of police on black is about half of white people killed by cops shows that they are disproportionally killed by cops.

I can take it a step further if you like. Lets do this. So do you know how many officers work around the country. When I say officer I mean beat cops. Their are approximately 700,000 officer that work around the country. Officer work 12 hour shifts usually 5 to 6 days a week. In a given 12 hours they will have any where from 10 to 12 encounters with the public. This means everything from pulling people over to answering 911 calls to everything. When you do the math going with lower number of encounters it comes out to 16,380,000,000 per year (roughly). So what this tells us is that officers make more arrest that end without some one dying then they do with some one dying or at least getting shot. Yet they are still treated like monsters that are out to get people.

If I had a job that ended with people dying “only sometimes” I wouldn’t have a job anymore. Police should not be killing anyone period. It doesn’t matter how many times it happens.

Not saying there aren't problems that need to be addressed but polices officer are not nearly as bad as some one believe. There a lot of good officer out their trying to do a very thank less job and people are lumping the good officer in with the bad. All people see are the bad officers because that's all the media focus on. I have lot of friends in law enformcement who are good people and do a lot of good things for their community. They do it because they genuinely care.

The fact that good cops don’t do anything about the bad ones is the problem. The “thin blue line” bull**** shows that they don’t actually care.

Yet almost all of them are leaving the force in next year or two. Their tired and their sick of being treated like crap. For years they got up every day put on that badge and put their lives on the line. Now they are faced with the reality that they can defend themselves because if they do they could face criminal charges. Its just not worth putting their family through that. So you have a lot of good honest cops leaving the force.

So their leaving their jobs knowing that their are bad cops still on the force? What do they want a bed of roses everytime they come home? Yeah work is suppose to be hard? And now that people are calling them out on it they want to ache and moan?

Now you got city like Minneapolis who are trying to dissolved there police force when they faced with massive crime wave and murder going on. This is embolding the criminals. Chicago which made massive cuts to their police force and lost a lot of cops are facing a wave of death they haven't seen sense the mob ruled the streets.

So it's not as simple as you want it to be.

I’d like to see the statistics on those crime waves actually.
 
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