No Time To Die (Bond 25)

Well mind you, Sandgren might just be talking about when the majority of his work begins; filming outside. It's been reported that Craig is apparently in London now with Fukunaga and that next week they start in on script readings and rehearsals, and that most of the sets at Pinewood are done and second unit work could begin as early as next Wednesday.
 
I wish we’d just get an Anthony Horowitz script for a Bond film.

His two novels easily stand next to Fleming’s best.
 
It just seems strange to me that we haven't got much news and official announcements on this when they're so close into filming. Especially casting-wise. Last time I was wondering the same thing the movie lost the director. :p
I don't remember what happened in previous films. Do they usually announce major roles like the villain or Bond girl at the last moment or months in advance?
 
They usually do a press conference just before filming is about to start where they introduce the cast.

 
And then cue the hilarious and intricate pod from Mira/Gourley.
 
Are there any Marvel films coming out around that time? Otherwise April might not be such a good date.
 
Yeah, it figures because of the slow news lately. At least it wasn't another case of losing a director this time around. Phew.

I hope the movie turns out to be solid despite the problems in production and delays.
 
Makes more sense than Valentine's Day and as the blockbuster season now starts in March, this is a fitting date.
 
Is it me or has Bond movies, in recent memory not really been smooth sailing - either strikes, directors changing, delays, comments... it feels like the series or narrative isn't thought out, like there is no real plan - when you think of what other studios are doing, it feels like they are forever changing their minds then every movie we get feels different - maybe a love letter to something, i dunno but i have really lost interest after skyfall - Casino Royal as amazing then it just kinda went again...

I hope after Craig they get an Actor in, director and a vision to move forward with.
 
I think movies like Deadpool and Black Panther have already put February in the blockbuster map and proved to be very effective. Ironically enough, as of right now, February 2020 seems to have much more competition than April.

Which is why I think Bond has now better chances in terms of box-office. In February it would have faced Birds of Prey which would be out a week before, Bloodshot a week later and two animated movies, including a Disney one in the same week. But nothing is scheduled for April. Mulan and Snake Eyes come out two weeks earlier and a Marvel movie will be out three weeks after Bond premieres.

Right now April seems like a safer choice and would also allow more space in an already tight production schedule. So hopefully all this is for the best.
 
Is it me or has Bond movies, in recent memory not really been smooth sailing - either strikes, directors changing, delays, comments... it feels like the series or narrative isn't thought out, like there is no real plan - when you think of what other studios are doing, it feels like they are forever changing their minds then every movie we get feels different - maybe a love letter to something, i dunno but i have really lost interest after skyfall - Casino Royal as amazing then it just kinda went again...

I hope after Craig they get an Actor in, director and a vision to move forward with.

Only the Martin Campbell Bonds have been decent for the recent Bond films of the last 25 years.

The Craig films have been up and down in quality. Definitely trying to copy something else instead of having its own style.

I also haven't enjoyed the "this time it's personal" theme since Licence To Kill. If it's always "this time it's personal", then there's no "this time" about it. It's just "yawn, yes it's personal yet again!".

This year is the 57th anniversary of Bond. For 30 of those years it's been personal. That means more than half of the cinematic Bond has been that way.

I wish we'd get a Bond film that even advertised itself as "this time it ISN'T personal". Just a mission he has to go on as part of his job, like in the Connery or Moore era.
 
Makes more sense than Valentine's Day and as the blockbuster season now starts in March, this is a fitting date.

Bond didn't want to catch a bat to the face.

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Scott Z. Burns Hired To Rewrite 'Bond 25' For Director Cary Fukunaga [Exclusive]

Sources close to the project tell us that Scott Z. Burns, the writer of “The Bourne Ultimatum,” “Contagion,” Steven Soderbergh’s upcoming heavyweight A-list ensemble drama “The Laundromat” and Academy Award-winning producer of “An Inconvenient Truth,” has been hired to rewrite the ‘Bond 25’ script by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade. It’s an overhaul and I won’t be surprised if Burns is ultimately given first screenplay credit.

Burns, like Tony Gilroy and Christopher McQuarrie, is known as one of the top emergency rescue script doctors in Hollywood. If your script is hemorrhaging, he’s one of the first people you call. He’s done uncredited fix-it work on “Ocean’s 12” and “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story,” to name just a couple, and top-shelf filmmakers and producers have him on speed dial.

Boyle reportedly clashed with Daniel Craig, there were rumors that Boyle wanted to kill Bond in the end (Craig is leaving after this) and this was a bone of contention. Having heard about the ending of the current, non-Burns version of the script (which I can’t reveal), I can say there’s likely some truth to that rumor. It was previously reported that Paul Haggis did rewrite work following Boyle’s exit, but based on my intel, it doesn’t sound like it’s being used.
 
Bond seriously needs to be either fixed as a current day action film series or just bow out for now...

Become age appropriate straight book adaptions, as 4-6 episode mini-seasons. Most of the books were adapted merely by names and soft plot details at best. Showing off 1950's into the early 60's post-war spy scene would be so interesting and fun. Better arcs and character depth for Bond and his villains, SIS-MI6 crew, and aliases.
 
Scott Z. Burns Hired To Rewrite 'Bond 25' For Director Cary Fukunaga [Exclusive]

Sources close to the project tell us that Scott Z. Burns, the writer of “The Bourne Ultimatum,” “Contagion,” Steven Soderbergh’s upcoming heavyweight A-list ensemble drama “The Laundromat” and Academy Award-winning producer of “An Inconvenient Truth,” has been hired to rewrite the ‘Bond 25’ script by Neal Purvis and Robert Wade. It’s an overhaul and I won’t be surprised if Burns is ultimately given first screenplay credit.

Burns, like Tony Gilroy and Christopher McQuarrie, is known as one of the top emergency rescue script doctors in Hollywood. If your script is hemorrhaging, he’s one of the first people you call. He’s done uncredited fix-it work on “Ocean’s 12” and “Rogue One: A Star Wars Story,” to name just a couple, and top-shelf filmmakers and producers have him on speed dial.

Boyle reportedly clashed with Daniel Craig, there were rumors that Boyle wanted to kill Bond in the end (Craig is leaving after this) and this was a bone of contention. Having heard about the ending of the current, non-Burns version of the script (which I can’t reveal), I can say there’s likely some truth to that rumor. It was previously reported that Paul Haggis did rewrite work following Boyle’s exit, but based on my intel, it doesn’t sound like it’s being used.


I thought it was the other way round that Craig and EON wanted to kill Bond and that Boyle didn't, not that Boyle wanted to kill him.
 
...I finally received my Michael Myers Halloween ‘18 NECA figure today.

Why don’t we have Movie Master or NECA style Bond figures. At least one Bond/villain per film figure set/series through the years?

I’d kill to have a Connery or Craig Bond 6-8” figure.
 
Is April 2020 really enough time with rewrites?

I think there are 12 inch sixth scale collectible figures for James Bond if you want to look for them.
 
Bond seriously needs to be either fixed as a current day action film series or just bow out for now...

Become age appropriate straight book adaptions, as 4-6 episode mini-seasons. Most of the books were adapted merely by names and soft plot details at best. Showing off 1950's into the early 60's post-war spy scene would be so interesting and fun. Better arcs and character depth for Bond and his villains, SIS-MI6 crew, and aliases.

Exactly, he needs to be this likeable, charming, smooth man going off on adventures and saving the world.... this doesn't have to be cheesy or corny.. it can be well written and realistic, but this whole 'it's a big budget art, indie film' no thanks.

I want Bond to feel like a mixture of Indiana Jones, MI, with a hint of british pop culture.. anyways, yeah i feel Bond has become a parody - taking itself too seriously rather than a parody laughing at itself.
 
I find it hard to believe that killing Bond wasn't one of the first thing that Boyle and EON talked about.

It was supposed to be Boyle who had an idea that he pitched and they liked. He was developing a script for months along with John Hodge, they read it, they liked it, they had even more talks and he was officially hired. And after three months of pre-production it was only then that they realised they firmly disaggree on something so vital at the last minute?

If true I think it's ridiculous. The story about the actor clashing I probably buy more though.
 
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I want Bond to feel like a mixture of Indiana Jones, MI, with a hint of british pop culture.. anyways, yeah i feel Bond has become a parody - taking itself too seriously rather than a parody laughing at itself.


'Cause yeah, the majority of Bond's life as a character that's what he's been, a parody, a series laughing at itself. :loco:

That's an element of the original movies, but there's plenty of pretty dark/grim stuff through all the eras, even Moore to a (much smaller) extent.

Bond's not Indiana Jones or Ethan Hunt. Those guys aren't damaged on-the-raggedy-edge psychos, Bond is. He's not supposed to be "likeable" beyond as this male fantasy thing, he's seriously not a pleasant human being.

As for the period piece suggestion going forward, it'd be amazing to see, can't think they'd ever do it though.
 
I think the Daniel Craig Bond films have been the best since the Connery days. I love what they've done with his version. We're honestly pretty lucky to get the quality of Casino Royale and Skyfall after films like Die Another Day.

Although I agree that after this one, a new direction is needed. But I'm actually very happy we get one final film to close his series out. He'll be officially the longest running Bond actor after 14 years (not counting Connery with Never Say Never Again) and deserves his own proper sendoff in the quality of Casino Royale. None of the other Bonds had the opportunity to really close off their series with a finality.
 
'Cause yeah, the majority of Bond's life as a character that's what he's been, a parody, a series laughing at itself. :loco:

That's an element of the original movies, but there's plenty of pretty dark/grim stuff through all the eras, even Moore to a (much smaller) extent.

Bond's not Indiana Jones or Ethan Hunt. Those guys aren't damaged on-the-raggedy-edge psychos, Bond is. He's not supposed to be "likeable" beyond as this male fantasy thing, he's seriously not a pleasant human being.

As for the period piece suggestion going forward, it'd be amazing to see, can't think they'd ever do it though.
By that comment I meant the Brosnan era started off well then turned into a parody of itself in a laughable way... surfing on a wind shield, face and race swaps... invisible cars, it was becoming juvenile nonsense.. where as Craig started off good, then almost became a cliche after cliche, but trying to be too serious along the way... secret lair in a crater, outfits the villain wore - vintage cars from the past showing up as blatant nods.. it was almost a parody without it realizing - and the feel of Indiana Jones, with MI is a tone, vibe I want to see... Connery bond had that... he was a dick but he was a likeable dick.. which is how I saw Indie.. anyways - that’s my view
 
I always go back to what Ian Fleming stated. James Bond is not a hero. James Bond is a blunt instrument for the government. That's what the stories should explore.

Daniel Craig's Bond is the first time the series embraced that. It explores what killing people for your government in the name of the "good" for your country, what that does to a man.

Casino Royale 2006 references this with a line by M, referring to Bond as a blunt instrument.
 
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