Bond inspires Batman inspires Bond

D'Artagnan said:
Agreed. It's almost exactly the same situation as Batman Begins after Batman & Robin. Technically, B&R was a success, it made a profit and sold lots of toys. Artistically, it couldn't get any worse and the studio knew they had gone too far in the wrong direction.

Exactly. And when it was released, you could even find a few (very few) positive reviews about B&R... At best people could say that DAD was better accepted when it was released than B&R
 
SpyderDan said:
You should be glad they did DAD. Otherwise, they wouldn't be going back to Bond being a gritty thriller.

This is almost the cinematic equivilant of what my grandfather used to say whenever I'd get hurt as a kid: "Just think about how good it'll feel when it stops hurting." Truthfull, but it doesn't mean you forgive the bastard kid at the playground who threw a rock at your skull, and it doesn't make it any less painfull.
 
ChadGent said:
This is almost the cinematic equivilant of what my grandfather used to say whenever I'd get hurt as a kid: "Just think about how good it'll feel when it stops hurting." Truthfull, but it doesn't mean you forgive the bastard kid at the playground who threw a rock at your skull, and it doesn't make it any less painfull.

It's the way the Bond series works. YOLT was pretty fantastic and gadget heavy, so OHMSS tried to be more realistic and character based. That didn't hit big, so DAF is as silly and cartoon-like as Bond ever got. TMWTGG was considered too low-key by audiences, so TSWLM is huge and fantastical again like YOLT. Moonraker took that approach as far as possible, so FYEO was more gritty and down to earth. TND was too action heavy, so TWINE is more character based. And so on and so forth.
 

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