Bought/Thought, 10/21/09 - SPOILERS

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Mighty Avengers kicked my ass this week. It was awesome all over. There was maybe a page or two when I wasn't having as much fun with the Avengers as I did when I was a little kid just discovering them for the first time. Everything with Pym and Eternity was solid gold and the reunion of a crap-ton of Avengers from all over was great. Fun issue all around. :up:
 
End reveal of Dark Avengers, I can't tell who all of these characters are.
Can somebody help me out by identifying them?
 
This Week's Comics:

Invincible Iron Man #19 - after just less than 12 months, Matt Fraction's post-SI arc comes to an end, albeit an end that is only a beginning of sorts. In a fairly significant development, the SHRA database is lost, seemingly irretrievably, closing the book to a great extent on a story that started in 2006. This arc has been fairly telegraphed for a few months, and it suffers as well from Fraction's using the same basic media premise in the UXM "Utopia" crossover a few months ago; it makes sense, since Norman's big weapon is his popularity, but it's dubious whether this will make any more difference in the bigger picture than the last one did. The final twist of Tony's living will giving end-of-life authority to Donald Blake was unexpected and neat, though it hinges on Osborn suddenly having to follow the letter of the law after dancing all over Lady Liberty with merry abandon in previous issues. While I'm not Larroca's biggest fan, this is his 19th straight issue, with no end in sight, which is impressive.

Mighty Avengers #30 - Dan Slott's second big arc (joined temporarily by Christos Gage on writing) hits its penultimate issue, and I have to say that my verdict is "ehh" so far, despite a marked improvement in the art with the arrival of Sean Chen for two issues. I think my fundamental problem with this series is that it is trying to be a big, world-spanning actioner, but Slott just isn't suited to writing those kinds of stories. He made his name with humorous gags and the like (of which this book has a few, such as Speed's expression on the final page in reaction to Hank and Jocasta). It also doesn't feel 'relevant', which is, like it or not, an important part of whether something feels epic these days. With all the Loki stuff shuffled off the stage for the moment, Hank chats with Eternity and everybody else (including a grab-bag of people from other teams) face off with the Unspoken (a decent idea with mediocre execution). Middling.

Trades in brief:

Battlefields (v.2): Dear Billy - a reminder that when he's not writing superhero comics that are a black joke against the genre itself or else being distracted by puerile shock tactics (and that's a lot of the time), Garth Ennis is actually a very good writer. The story of a young British nurse who distinctly does not have a good time when Singapore falls to the Japanese in 1942, who then escapes to India where she spends her time agonizing over her secret ordeal, murdering POWs in their hospital beds, and romancing an RAF pilot. Very affecting.

Beta Ray Bill: Godhunter - a solid debut from Kieron Gillen, whose Phonogram got glowing reviews, but said reviews included the advisory that it'd probably mean a lot less if you weren't familiar with the music scene being depicted, which includes me. Since he'll be writing Thor in the near-future, this seemed like a good test-drive (and I do like Bill). He does a good job of following up on some points from SI: Thor (including a good elaboration on the Godkillers, who were basically throwaway mooks created to fight the Asgardians). The reason for not killing Big G at the end is kind of muddled (aren't there already enough reasons not to kill Galactus?).

Sleeper: Season Two - Brubaker and Phillips' first big collaboration comes to an end here. The first volume was great, this one is possibly better, it's hard to say. An excellent finale to Holden's story. I particularly liked the handling of Miss Misery, probably the most compelling character here; you're left to decide whether or not you really feel sorry for her or not. The final pages straddle a neat line between downer and bittersweet, since, really, Holden's gotten what he really wanted, to be out of the action indefinitely.
 
yea,Sleeper is effing good comics
 
All Marvel this week... and every single issue was enjoyable... something that's not been the case for me for quite some time now.

Thunderbolts 137 - If I'm not mistaken this was Remender's first issue... and it blew me away. Granted, I'm a huge Iron Fist fan whose been going through withdrawals, but the issue itself was amazing. It also fits in well as an aftermath issue for the Immortal Iron Fist, as it's a stand alone issue mostly focused on Danny... and it deals quite a bit with Misty being pregnant. Norman's brainwashing Iron Fist and attempting to get him to kill he Avengers, and something that isn't shown often.... Iron Fist shows through simulations that he's got the power to do it! The Thunderbolts are handed their butts twice in this issue by Luke Cage, who they are trying to capture to also brainwash and it comes to some pretty good Iron Fist beating down Luke Cage scenes, but in the end Iron Fist comes out of it, the two escape, with the help of Ghost, and all is well.

I realy feel sorry for both Paladin and Ant Man in this issue, where both of them get the worst things done to them since the series started. Paladin gets his face literally broken by Cage... who then later goes and breaks it again a little later, along with a lot of his upper body. And Ant Man invades Luke's body but can't break out due to his steel skin... and in the end... is 'passed' at a restroom and leaves secretly covered in brown. Poor guy's hit bottom let me tell you.

My only complain with the issue is Ant Man's not hurting Luke while inside. I know he has steel skin, but his insides should still be normal right? If Ant Man tried to grow he'd rip Luke's stomach and other organs and do all kinds of damage. So that was odd to me, but I can over look it due to how much I enjoyed the rest of the issue.

This really could have been an issue of New Avengers, but better written. In fact, I'm beginning to become a fan of Rick Remender. I first noticed him on The End League from Dark Horse. Then his Punisher series is great. And now this. I'm glad he's on this book and I look forward to more from him. And it's also a great showing on his part that the quality of his work here, along with the nearly 40 pages, somehow made me not mind the $4, when other books at a heck of a lot more pages but lesser quality made me want to throw up.

Way to do Rick, keep me intrigued.

Mighty Avengers 30 - This is a title that just kinda keeps me reading, but just barely... and when I plan on dropping a lot of Avenger stuff after Dark Reign this will be the easiest. But I'll say, this current arc has been pretty good, and this specific issue was phenominal. I liked having the Young Avengers, Mighty Avengers, New Avengers, and Avengers Resistance working together. And he little scene with Hercules and Cho going to the Dark Avengers for help was priceless! And I could'nt help but to love the Pym/Eternity scenes. Very interesting. And Chen's art is good... haven't been digging anyone else's on this book so far, so that's a bonus. Could be part of why I liked the issue a lot more than the rest.

I was surprised that next issue is the conclusion of this arch though. I could have sworn I read somewhere it was going to be a huge story, like 12 issues or more. I'm a little disappointed.

Dark Avengers 10 - Though I don't know much about him, I'm fairly certain Ares taking out Man-Thing by chopping him in half is bullcrap, but it's Bendis so I'm numb to it by now. However, the rest of the issue was pretty good. Still not worth the $4 they ask for it though. I love Deodato's art so that helps. And the ending of the issue had my jaw a bit hung. I'm getting annoyed at the typical handling of the Sentry though. In Secret Invasion he fled the war. In the first arc of Dark Avengers he blew up. Don't recall what he did in Utopia. And here, he blows up again... and out of the storyline. If you're going to have a character on the team... use the character. Between Sentry, Iron Fist, Captain America (Bucky), and others... I just don't get why Bendis keeps them around. He doesn't use them!

And for some reason, this being the core Dark Reign storyline, and seeing Mephisto showing up (beside Enchantress, Molecule Man, I think Dormammu, and some tall dude.. Beyonder maybe?) gives me hope that somehow in the end of this, OMD will be turned around.... but I'm not holding my breath. My guess, these are all just subjects created by Molecule Man and not the real deals, but we'll see.

X-Men Legacy 228 - As a HUGE Generation X fan, I am LOVING this arc due to Emplate being the bad dude of he story. And there's tons of references to his stuff from Generation X. He compares his plans for Bling to what he used Penance for. We see a photograph of Emplate's family, including Monet... and the twins... who I assumed people were just forgetting about due to their confusing history. DOA even mentions the Generation X crew on the final page... and I hope that's a sign of things to come in this arc! I'd love to see a return of that team, even for just an issue or two.

And of course, as a huge fan of X-Men students, I love the new focus of the book being on Rogue looking after them. Bling and Hope are getting a lot of focus this arc and I look for further focus on other students as the series continues.

Oh, and I loved this exchange for some reason...

Cyclops - "How long before you get me that crowbar?"

Madison Jeffries - "We dont' have the equipment, we don't even have the math. We'd be inventing an entirely new branch of physics!"

Nemesis - "So probably at least an hour and a half."


You know, I just didn't give a lick about Beast's little science team but I am really growing to like them. Between the old guys' death over in Uncanny last month to this and other such things. They're fitting in just fine with the X-Men.

Incredible Hulk 603 - A book that I buy month by month, not really sure how long I'm going to continue with it... and yet, I find that I LOVE every issue. I loved Skaar, but not Hulk, so that's all I bought, and I really didn't want to buy this title due to the $4 price tag, but I finally broke down and did it. I loved 601 and 602 so I went back and bought some stuff leading up to it from the HULK title... not bad stuff, but not enough to make me want to spend $8 on Hulk a month. However, with every issue of this title, I love it more and more. And this issue was no exception.

And now I see a preview out for next issue showing Banner and Skaar playing football with A-Bomb and the Warbound? That's just awesome! I don't know how long I'll be buying these Hulk titles (and fortunately, Son of Hulk isn't solicited for January so that's one less), but for the tiem being, I'm loving this Banner/Skaar dynamic. Great stuff.

Still have't read any of the She-Hulk back ups. Don't care about them, don't want them. Just Marvel stealing my money away like they always do.

Dark Reign: The List - Hulk - Fits in with the mood of Incredible Hulk, which means it's good. I don't know where it fits in continuity, though I'd guess after issue 603. And it's well written with good art. It seems fairly important for the Skaar/Banner issue, dealing with Banner's eventual turning back into the Hulk, so it didn't feel like filler... though that redicuouls reprint at the end to 'justify' the $4 price tag sure was.
 
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Short but good week. As always, full spoilers. Reviews also up at Examiner.

Dread's Bought/Thought for 10/21/09:

INVINCIBLE #67:
And as quickly as it began, the 2 issue art run by series co-creator Cory Walker is at an end. Considering Ryan Ottley used the time to co-draw a few issues of HAUNT in the meanwhile, the break likely came in handy. This issue and last don't have Invincible in them, but stuff is so good he hasn't been missed. Robert Kirkman catches up with Nolan and Allen in space, stocking up for their war against the Viltrumites. While there are "less than 50 pure blood Viltrumites" left in the universe, CONQUEST showed us how tough just one of them could be to us Earthlings. Nolan and Allen have sought out the gun of Space Racer, only the Racer isn't exactly dead, or in a pleasant mood after being buried in a space rock for a century. Fortunately, he decides to join the alliance and the new dynamic duo continue to assemble weapons, from a strange toxin to fighting invulnerable monsters and whatnot. In the meantime, Nolan crashes on Allen's couch, to the chagrin of his gal pal. In the end, the alliance leader Thadeus (also a Viltrumite like Nolan) reveals that the source of the plague that so thinned their species ranks was him, and he won't hesitate to try a second, deadlier strain if need be, even if it means their end.

After 58 issues of Ottley's art, it was jarring to see Walker again for many and some INVINCIBLE fans even complained. To them I say that Walker's art has more than improved since his first seven issues of INVINCIBLE. He's also the co-creator of the franchise, the Steve Ditko of INVINCIBLE if you will, and is welcome in my eyes to draw however many issues or covers he wants. Besides, to date he's fully drawn about nine issues of INVINCIBLE, and Ottley will be back, so no fretting, he's still the INVINCIBLE king.

The beauty of the issue is the sheer amount of subplots that Kirkman picks up that had been dangling for, let's face it, maybe over three years. Space Racer was mentioned way back in the second HC and that was about issue #13 or before, I think. Kirkman also mentions his first canceled Image series, TECH JACKET, and gets that character's universe intertwined into INVINCIBLE after one mere cameo several years ago. Considering it was about a teenager stumbling onto some alien battle armor, I say it is about time it got intertwined with INVINCIBLE, which is often all about aliens. The final bits of Nolan's origin and history of the Viltrumites is padded out as well. It has taken a while to drop these hints, but I felt this issue was satisfying enough, and promises a lot more for the next year or so of the series. It also lightened the mood considerably from the end of CONQUEST, which is probably the point of it. Change the venue, bring back some humor with the adventures, have Walker give Ottley a rest, and then come back refreshed. The cover to the next issue has Invincible fighting a new enemy, and that's what he needs, some decent new villains who last a while.

I've enjoyed these two issues. Nolan and Allen are cool characters, and get along well together. Earth needed some time to rebuild and this was a good way to wrap things up as well as move things along for the big Viltrumite War that Kirkman has been hinting about for years. In the letters page, Kirkman comments on the recent news that ASTOUNDING WOLF-MAN will be ending with issue #25, which is six months from now (if all issues remain on time; issue #19 quietly skipped a month despite Kirkman's "on time in '09" vow) due to creative decisions rather than sales. More on that with AW-M #20. But it does make one wonder if Kirkman has an ending for INVINCIBLE in sight. And if so, how big a bang it would go out on. Hopefully it's not for a good long while.

MIGHTY AVENGERS #30: After a little break last issue, Dan Slott is back co-writing this run alongside Christos Gage for one of the most exciting chapters yet of his run, now 10 issues old (or about 11 if you count the REQUIEM one-shot, which was mostly reprints with about 8 pages of new material). The Unspoken menace is now at the fore with the Loki subplot backing off for the moment, and Avengers new and old must unite to stop it. This beacons back to the Busiek era of AVENGERS, when the series had a sense of flair and grandeur beyond the earth's mightest heroes fighting ninja or symbiotes while talking to TV sets. Sean Chen takes over for art from Khoi Pham, last seen in DARK REIGN: FANTASTIC FOUR and the first 7-8 issues of NOVA. He does a splendid job with all the various heroes, with Unspoken himself and with the scenery. If he has any flaws, it is in drawing those effected by Unspoken's gas who have become Alpha-Primitives. Pham made them look like Neanderthal monsters; there is no difference in Chen's figures and only the "growling" dialogue sets them apart. It takes some of the drama away from some panels, especially as the Barnes New Cap locks up against the Alpha-Primitive Walker. Considering, for some reason, everyone's complaints about Pham's art, I felt here was one major area he did better than Chen. I also feel Pham's artwork is fine (and, again, he was the artist before Slott got aboard; he drew a few of Bendis' SECRET INVASION issues), even though I also like Chen.

Slott and Gage go to some familiar territory, as Stature assembles various Avengers into one massive squad. Her allies the Young Avengers, as well as about half of the New Avengers (with Clint acting like an ideal leader, which he is, having led the West Coast roster as well as the Thunderbolts for periods of time; why he would relinquish that to Luke Cage of all people just smacks of Bendis' favoritism), and finally many of the "Avengers Resistance" from AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE (aside for Gauntlet, all of the members who actually were Avengers, namely Justice, Rage, and Tigra). They all finally make it into China to help Quicksilver out, but the Xenogen mists of Unspoken prove too strong for many of them. Hercules and Amadeus Cho launch their own "Hail Mary" style attack, only to find it'll hardly be easier.

The issue is all but stolen by the Hank Pym segment. Having "grown" into the Macroverse (the reverse of the Microverse, which works in comic book logic), he's now standing face to face with Eternity, who usually meets Dr. Strange. Much like nearly everyone at Marvel, Eternity has dismissed Brother Voodoo as the new Sorcerer Supreme and still acts as if Stephan is, much as Thor does, or the Avengers, or anyone who counts, really. Here Slott & Gage make their biggest pitch for Pym being "cool" and there are moments where it feels heavy handed, but as it is Eternity speaking, it makes some sense. The gist is he "chooses" Pym as "the Scientist Supreme" and overcomes Pym's own objections by claiming that Reed is "the explorer" and Stark is "the engineer" (when he isn't lobotomizing himself in INVINCIBLE IRON MAN), but Pym is apparently "the mage" of science, bringing it closer to magic than the others. I suppose that means that while Reed might be smarter, and Stark better at building things, Pym is the one with the artistic imagination (and as many artists are, has some emotional "quirks" to himself; I mean look at Van Gough). Considering many comic book scientists overlap and do whatever the plot desires, I thought this was a good way to single Pym out as distinct without stepping on the toes of the other two. It also ties into past issues of the run, especially the first few when Pym feels lowly compared to Iron Man as well as uses his science against the magic of Chthon.

I can't see the "middling" tone that others criticize the book for. If it has any problem, it is that it is divorced from the sought of hyperventilating angst and inter-comic DARK REIGN story that defines NEW AVENGERS and DARK AVENGERS. It doesn't have Marvel stroking the book like the company does for Bendis even if he devotes 55 pages to superheroes shouting at a TV report and calls it an adventure. I care about this a lot more than I cared about everyone flying in to punch Dr. Doom in the head when Bendis wrote this title. Not every book has to break it's back bending backwards to be "kewl". Unspoken is a perfectly viable threat to the Avengers; if he has any flaw, it is that modern audiences, and sometimes writers and editors, have no tolerance or patience for new creations, often wanting them dead or gone immediately, forgetting that the "classics" only got that way through sheer use and tenacity. If Marvel amped him as much as they amped, say, Purple Man when Bendis tapped him, or Hood, there'd be more buzz. I don't care about buzz so long as the adventure is solid, which it is for me. This is what I want to see in a book that calls itself AVENGERS, not Mockingbird narrating like a ghetto thug and everyone talking to a wall.

There is always time for some comedic interludes, such as the "attempt" to recruit the Dark Avengers (and Osborn's reply), and almost every line that Cho has. These characters just seem more lively and real right now, quips and all, than when Bendis writes them with dripping angst that repeats the last four words of the line prior. The line prior? The line prior. Every time? Every time. And so on. Slott & Gage don't do that. They actually WRITE.

There just seems to be something so right about new and old Avengers coming together for some big adventure, with Spider-Man and Wolverine not among them, and things getting done. The last panel seems to promise Pym being the hero of the tale, and I can't wait for the climax. Still won't call him "Wasp", though. The Scientist Supreme doesn't need a woman's name! ;)

INVINCIBLE IRON MAN #19: The moral of this 12 issue tale is you two can prevail over the most powerful man in America by having efficient lady friends and giving yourself brain damage, then allowing yourself to be beaten to a pulp on live TV.

This is the final part of WORLD'S MOST WANTED, and while the last few issues were solid, in hind-sight the tale could have probably cropped down an issue or two, or maybe even four, and probably been little worse for ware. This issue is an extra buck in price, but also delivers an extra ten story pages, so you get your money's worth. The story comes to a head while setting up the next arc, just as a serial series should.

Potts rescues Hill and Widow and manages to accomplish the task of shorting out the Stark Tech that Osborn & HAMMER stole, making it useless or at least spotty (aside for the Iron Patriot armor itself). Stark, meanwhile, has destroyed his stock-pile of labs and given himself enough brain damage that any secrets that Osborn wanted from him are effectively gone. While Stark gets his tin cased rear kicked in something nasty by Osborn, he's won the war, at least for now. The airing of the beating on TV has Osborn nearly caught in a Rodney King style PR coup, and he naturally recovers whatever sanity he has and takes Stark alive. Fraction naturally is rather good at writing Osborn, having him shift from cunning to sadistic. The only blemish is that if the public has accepted a convicted multi murderer and terrorist, as well as organized crime boss, as an unelected president simply because he shot an alien in the face, and completely turned against "true" heroes who have been honest since day one, why would anyone fret if he executed Stark? It's like making Ted Bundy a general and then gasping if he kicked a puppy on camera. On the other hand, of course, the public loves an underdog, and I guess Stark has some good name left.

Potts and the ladies really prove themselves here; in a way this comic has become the opposite of many others. The ladies are not damsels in distress while the male hero is the one who gets pummeled and needs to be rescued. The issue ends with Dr. Donald Blake, Thor, responsible for Stark in the hospital after his coma, which sets up the next arc. It should be interesting. While I would say that a character known for his genius giving himself a lobotomy is perhaps a step way in the wrong direction, perhaps it is penance for all of his "sins" in CIVIL WAR and THE INITIATIVE. Fraction perhaps imagines himself akin to Brubaker in CAPTAIN AMERICA, who can tell a 12 chapter story and have it all be taut, and while he comes close, he isn't there yet.

Still, 19 issues without a delay from the same creative team on art, Larroca and D'armata is very impressive. It's not the best book I read, but still a damn good one.
 
Merc with a Mouth 4

I didn't really like this series when it first started out, but now I gotta say, it's giving Pools regular on going a run for it's money.

Bong Dazo's art has really grown on me. The Thunderbolts story left me unimpressed by him to be honest, but he is really shining here. Maybe it's because of the different inker and colourist? Whatever, some great action scenes that are easy to follow and wide, scoping shots of the jungles of the savage land. And the character models are great. In fact, I think I prefer Bong's Deadpool to Paco's!!

Ever wanted to see a zombiefied T-Rex? This book has it. Some great interaction between "Headpool" and Nurse Betty and "Headpool" and Deadpool. Nice references to Jurassic Park and Star Wars thrown in for good measure too. The writing has a crisp, fun feel too it. And whilst it is mainly all fun and games Gischler does show a more, how would I put it, innocent side to Pool? Naaa actually what am I thinking, not innocent, perhaps charmingly naive? Yea that's it. The guy is besotted with Nurse Betty, but she states on many occasion, he has ZERO chance with her :( And this is where the differences between Deadpool and Headpool are evident. Deadpool acting more like a besotted oaf trying to impress her, Headpool just being a chauvinistic, aggressive creep :funny: Funny stuff.

So if you just want a fun, good looking comic that isn't bogged down by continuity and over complicated plots, or you're just a fan of Deadpool, I recommend this highly :up: :dpf:
 
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''The mission is to get you back to A.I.M. We can't wait for him."
''I like your take charge attitude. Do you think you could ever go for a guy without a body?"
''No."
''*****."
 
:funny: Yea that was the line that had me in stitches. The way he just bluntly went "*****!" :funny:
 
Merc with a Mouth is waaaay better than the regular series. I love how Deadpool looks back at the T-Rex and sees a giant Barney the Dinosaur. So twisted I love it.
 
Been reading my DC's today. Here is my quick thoughts:

DC Universe Halloween Special '09: This was DEFINITELY not on my pull list, especially after last years terrible edition. But, it was put in my LCS box, and figured I'd give it a whirl. (At $5.99, I was being very generous to to DC.) Out of all the comics I have read so far, it's easily the best of the bunch. The stories fit into the Halloween theme nicely, and I don't think there was a bad one in the bunch. Good job, DC!!

Azrael #1: I should probably drop this one. I didn't like the Battle For The Cowl edition of Azrael; but, the two Batman Annuals weren't that bad. Sadly, this is more like BFTC than the Annuals. I'm just not interested in the main character, and it just feels like generic DC crap.

Vigilante #11: Another title I need to drop, and another character that DC has decided to bring back with an all-new person taking over for the original dead character. You'd just think after 11 issues, this title would be going somewhere...but, it isn't. Oh well, next issue promises "All you questions are answered." I just don't know if anyone really cares at this point. (Who knows, maybe since it's issue #12, it will be the last one. I'll check it out, and drop it if it's still on-going.)

Justice League Of America #38: Remember how exciting that first issue of this series was? Wow, how this title has fallen. How many times do we need to see the JLA break up??? How many times do we have to see the D-list characters trying to keep it together??? I'll stick around for the Blackest Night tie-in; but, I'm seriously....SERIOUSY....thinking about dumping a bunch of my DC titles. It's almost a chore to read this crap.

Batman Confidential #35: At least I always get a decent story from this title. Not the best of the bunch, but it's cool to see some old school Batman stories available to read....especially with the lack of Batman in all those other Gotham titles. This issue wraps up the Moscow and The Bear storyline. (Heck, I read Batman comics for Batman...just like I read Superman comics for Superman. Now look at all those titles....not an appearance of Superman or Batman to be seen lately!!!)

Adventure Comics #3: You know, this wasn't bad....but, it didn't have any real adventure. It was just about Superboy and Robin making up after Connor's return, and seeing where both character's stand in regards to one another. I'll tell ya this...after three issues, I'm already tired of whinney Connor trying to decide if he's more like Superman or Lex.

Action Comics #882 and Supergirl #46: Ok, you do expect not to necessarily see Superman in Supergirl's comic..but, Action Comics and Superman should have Superman in the friggin' comic. Sure, DC is trying to shake things up...but, so is NBC with the God-Awful Jay Leno show 5-nights a week!!! I'd love to know how sales are going with these titles; because I'd have to think keeping Sup's out of his two main books for over a year eventually has to be effecting it.

Now, these two issues aren't bad...I'm just tired of this storyline. I can give a rat's pattoottie about Reactron, and the whole General Lane thing is also starting to drag out far too long. Oh, DC, you always show such promise...and, then you go back to your same, old ways. And, now, even your big event is starting to seriously bore me. (THAT'S a bad sign!!!)

Blackest Night - Superman #3: Again, these Blackest Night tie-ins aren't necessarily bad...it's just that all three are the same, damn story!!! Blackest Night Superman...Blackest Night Batman....Blackest Night Titans...Blackest Night for the readers!!!!! Man, when I think about these tie-ins compared to those great Final Crisis tie-ins, it just makes them worse. What crap!

Batman-Streets of Gotham #5: Don't you like how DC cut down the Batman/Gotham clutter by cancelling Catwoman, Nightwing, and Robin...only to come back with more Gotham titles than EVER before!!! Talk about overkill! Yes, Yost at least does a pretty good job with this title; but, I don't care much about Man-Bat, and I did feel like they stretched out this issue without a whole lot happening. (Plus, all the dialogue boxes start to get to be too much. It felt as if 80% of this comic was dialogue boxes.)

My other gripe is DC shoving their "Second Features" down our throat. If I want a story about the characters in their second feature, I'd pay for it. Sure, it's like back in the early 80's, when you'd get Arak or Warlord as a second feature...but, back then, we weren't charged extra for it! It's almost a kick in the pants...not only are we reading Batman titles without Batman appearing in them....but, we're getting charged more for another character who also isn't Batman!

Hope you're happy DC! Nice way to build up a resentful reader who is only going to proclaim louder, Make Mine Marvel!!!
 
Hope you're happy DC! Nice way to build up a resentful reader who is only going to proclaim louder, Make Mine Marvel!!!

Thing is, Marvel's doing the same thing or worse. I want to read Incredible Hulk, but I don't care about this new She-Hulk, but I'm paying the extra $1 for it. And there's others as well.

And then you get the oneshots and minis for that extra $1 that isn't giving you anything special at all.

Marvel's doing the same to me that DC is doing to you. I love the characters, but I'm starting really dispise Marvel. It's really bad when I am EXCITED that Dark Reign is ending soon because that means I'll be dropping tons of Marvel titles. I shouldn't be excited to drop a good 10 or so titles from a company.

Personally, the Project Superpowers stuff is blowing my socks off. I like those better than either Marvel or DC. And they actually charge decently. Each issue is $3, and the 0 issue that kicked off both volumes of the main mini was only $1. And the story and quality of everything is just as good or better than most stuff Marvel or DC put out.
 
I'm starting to resent the backups a little bit myself. I don't want to read Yost's filler arc with Huntress and Man-Bat in Streets of Gotham, yet by skipping those two issues I miss two parts of Andreyko's great Manhunter backup. And, going the other way, I don't want to read about Ginger-Hulk in The Incredible Hulk, but I still have to pay an extra dollar for the comic just because her backup is in there.
 
Thing is, Marvel's doing the same thing or worse. I want to read Incredible Hulk, but I don't care about this new She-Hulk, but I'm paying the extra $1 for it. And there's others as well.

And then you get the oneshots and minis for that extra $1 that isn't giving you anything special at all.

Marvel's doing the same to me that DC is doing to you. I love the characters, but I'm starting really dispise Marvel. It's really bad when I am EXCITED that Dark Reign is ending soon because that means I'll be dropping tons of Marvel titles. I shouldn't be excited to drop a good 10 or so titles from a company.

Personally, the Project Superpowers stuff is blowing my socks off. I like those better than either Marvel or DC. And they actually charge decently. Each issue is $3, and the 0 issue that kicked off both volumes of the main mini was only $1. And the story and quality of everything is just as good or better than most stuff Marvel or DC put out.

Yeah, Marvel is the same with the price thing...but, my biggest gripe is that I'm reading subpar stories at DC...and, for the most part, I'm enjoying the Marvel ones a hell of a lot more. (The big exception, of course, is Hulk. That might be the bottom of the Marvel barrel right now.) I really don't mind paying more..but, I at least what some kind of quality for the extra bucks.
 
I'm starting to resent the backups a little bit myself. I don't want to read Yost's filler arc with Huntress and Man-Bat in Streets of Gotham, yet by skipping those two issues I miss two parts of Andreyko's great Manhunter backup. And, going the other way, I don't want to read about Ginger-Hulk in The Incredible Hulk, but I still have to pay an extra dollar for the comic just because her backup is in there.

Yeah, I'd pay for Andreyko's Manhunter, easily. I found it much better than the Huntress/Man-Bat story, too.
 
But if the back-up strips are for characters you like, then you can't get enough. I love the Beetle strips in BOOSTER GOLD, and when AGENTS OF ATLAS joins INCREDIBLE HERCULES, I'll be very pleased. It goes both ways.
 
Yeah, and it's definitely better than having those characters go without any comic. But it's still a bit annoying when you're stuck with a stinker for the backup or you're buying a comic primarily for the backup and effectively paying for 20 pages of dead weight in the main story. It's an imperfect system.
 
I'm starting to resent the backups a little bit myself. I don't want to read Yost's filler arc with Huntress and Man-Bat in Streets of Gotham, yet by skipping those two issues I miss two parts of Andreyko's great Manhunter backup. And, going the other way, I don't want to read about Ginger-Hulk in The Incredible Hulk, but I still have to pay an extra dollar for the comic just because her backup is in there.
Look at it this way: you'd probably still be paying 3.99 for IH even if the backup wasn't there.
 
I don't read the Ginger-Hulk backups either, but CaptainCanada makes a good point. The Hulk's a big enough character that Marvel would probably charge $3.99 for his comic even without the backup.
 
Seems like a waste. I really liked the Lyra character when I read the miniseries.
 
I flip through them occasionally. In this week's issue, Lyra, the new female riff on the Hulk, is fighting a female riff on familiar Hulk villain Zzzax and a female riff on familiar Hulk villazzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. :o
 
After reading Mighty Avengers and Dark Reign: The List - Hulk, I'm still wondering where the hell is Dr. Doom in the top 8 smartest guys list?
 

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