Bought/Thought for August 3rd, 2011 - SPOILERS

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From January 24, 2007. A Bought/Thought thread that went on for 15 pages. Of course, most of it was banter, like this from banned user PhotoJones in response to him needed to get laid:

not to brag or be crude...

BUT. if you must know:

i'm 23. i make a living doing photography. you understand how attractive that is to a girl? i have a girlfriend. i live in a 3000 sq ft apartment downtown. i wear trendy jeans and i go to coffee shops. call it what you will, but i'm gettin laid plenty.

what's that?

oh. SNAP!

It's nice to see the "oh snap" thing has started to die down finally.

Heroes For Hire #10

Not a whole lot of negative I have to say about this issue. While I'm not a fan of the artist, his work does seem to lend itself well to the story; and, the issue is packed with a ton of action. It's nice to see Purple Man again, and cool that Abnett and Lanning gave us a new villian. It's not much of a Fear Itself tie-in, besides seeing the Heroes do mop up duty where the destruction has hit.

I enjoyed the issue; but, I wasn't exactly hooping and hollering about it. :yay:

Ultimate Fallout: Spider-Man No More #4

The big gripe is NOT about the content in this issue, but why in the hell Marvel decided to bag it?? There is no extra, special product that needed the clear baggie. All I'm guessing is that Bendis wanted to try and keep his new Spider-Man more of a secret. (No big secret involved, as it's nobody you'll recognize. Like with Firestorm did previously, the new Spidey will be an African-American teen, who seems to have no connection with Peter Parker.) The seven page story just involves him fighting Kangaroo, and the last panel gives us the reveal. The big question isn't who Spidey is; but, how many people just won't care. Peter Parker is Spider-Man; and, I just don't see Bendis gaining a whole lot of new readers with this version.

The next short feature by Hickman sees Reed Richards return to the Ultimate Universe, after the events from Ultimate Doom. He's still focused on making for a better tomorrow. Not exactly exciting stuff; but, I'm up to see where Hickman might take it in the future.

Finally, Spencer returns with a Valerie Cooper story; and, while there is a whole lot of gabbing, the gist of it all can be summed up with the final word bubble: "The entire world's about to find out the United States government created mutants."

Not a whole lot that excited me with this issue. The bag kind of peeved me off; and, the new Spidey having nothing to do with the original fell flat. We still have a couple issue to go with this book; then, the new Ultimate line starts up again. So far, I'm not getting very excited. :dry:

Rachel Rising #1

Man, I wish I could talk with Terry Moore; because, I have a few questions about this book. Namely, in the opening scene with Rachel rising from the dead, is that a character from Strangers In Paradise?? After Echo, I got the distinct impression that his various series will take place in the SIP world, which I just love. Also, it's not essential for new readers to have read SIP. It's just these little appearances that get those of us who loved the book to get all giddy again.

Good first issue. But, like with Echo, the reader is left wanting MORE! It all rushes by so quickly, that we're just getting our foot in the water when we're told we have to leave. And, maybe this first issue, having the first half contain no dialogue, that makes me feel it more than any Terry Moore issue before. I cannot wait for the next issue. And, while I want to give this book my highest review, that feeling of wanting has to make me drop it a notch. :yay::yay:

Severed #1

In last week's Bought/Thought, I hyped Scott Snyder as a must-read writer at DC. Now, for the first time, Scott expands outside of DC, and brings us a horror tale from Image. It's a good first issue, and unlike Rachel Rising, I feel as if I got a healthy dose about what this comic is going to be like. Thankfully, we don't have to deal with Vampires or Werewolves or Zombies. This is very Stephen King, where you shouldn't necessarily trust those around you. The book has a good set up, and the villian and main character are nicely introduced to the reader.

As I said recently, if Scott Snyder's name is on a book, you just might want to pick it up. He's doing some amazing stuff with Detective Comics and American Vampire; and, this book starts off as no exception. :yay::yay:

The Infinite (Deluxe Edition) #1

Robert Kirkman teams up with Rob Liefeld, and the results are a mixed bag. Now, I know Kirkman is the main guy at Image; but, not everything he does is necessarily gold. Recently, he's copying old styles; and, when that comes to the early days of Image, it's not necessarily something I get that excited about. Haunt is just another version of Spawn to me; and, even though the issues have huge delays, I don't find I'm missing it too much. With Infinite, (especially seeing Liefeld's art) you get a real sense of those early Image books, like Youngblood and WILDcats. Kirkman, though, does do a better job writing this book than you'd see in the early days of Image; so, while I won't go gaga over this issue, I still am willing to come back to it.

In this, The Infinite are a group (of aliens?) that have taken over control of our governments, hoping to save Earth and make it a safer place to live. They don't mind killing those who will stand in their way of an Earthly Utopia; and, the first part of this book shows how bad things have gotten in the future. With the help of a time traveling belt, the main character saves himself at the last second, and goes to his past-self to make things right. The characters aren't more than two-dimensional versions we've seen before; but, Kirkman's dialogue brings this book a step higher than those early Image comics I tend to remember, that were so dang bad.

What seriously drags the book down is Liefeld's art. From the get-go, we see the tiny heads on large bodies. And, the puffed out, muscular chests have not improved over the years. At times, I'm feeling as if Liefeld is copying old art from his Youngblood days, and simply putting on new colors or costumes. The reader cannot get away from the horrible rememberances of the past, like with Youngblood, because Liefeld hasn't matured as an artist.

I wouldn't necessarily recommend the over-priced Deluxe Edition. The Kirkman parts aren't enough to warrant the $5.99 price tag; and, the rest is just Liefeld art. (And, you can figure what I think about that.) The regular title is only $2.99; and, it seems like a reasonable price to pay for this book.

Not a huge recommendation, I know; but, I am interested in what Kirkman does with the second issue. A mild :yay:.

Superman #714

Grounded is FINALLY over! Seeing has how it was overly stretched out, I must say this might be the absolute worst Superman story I've ever read. Having Straczynski take his ball and go home before being halfway done is even more maddening; so, I don't get the feeling that we say the true ending of this storyline. When the final issue is done, you just feel let down. This is how they wrapped up a year of crap? The New 52 can only improve what I read. This might be the Worst Of The Week. :csad:
 
Punisher #1 is ****ing pretty. Oh yeah, Rucka writes it well (yep, typed wrell there and had to backspace it - you try saying that three times fast), but that shouldn't be surprising. It probably will surprise someone, though.
 
Did PJ really say that? Haha, wow.
 
Onto Flashpoint. Hard to believe it ends this month. Unlike Fear Itself, which is probably being dragged out too much, I wouldn't have minded a bit more of DC's event.

Flashpoint #4

I love how you don't need to read the tie-ins to enjoy this title; but, those who are can get the extra little info that is missing from the main story. Case in point, the events in Secret Seven have HUGE reprocutions in this book. (I'm not even sure which book is best to read first. Secret Seven #3 takes place before what happens in this issue; but, you'll know the big secret if you read that issue before hand. Then again, the big secret will ruin the second half of the final Secret Seven tie-in. I'd probably still read this issue first. I liked the surprise at the end.)

I think my biggest enjoyment of this issue were the Shazam kids; and, DC maybe made a mistake by not making a tie-in featuring them. Johns did another good job; though, I won't say this is his best issue of the series. Still, it takes us up to a major battle; and, we finally see Flash being confronted by Reverse Flash on the final page. It all leads up the the thrilling conclusion later this month; and, of course, all leads into the New 52.

I am excited about The New 52. Some of the titles I'm not that thrilled with; and, seeing certain writers attatched to some gives me a leary feeling. (I was hoping Levitz wasn't going to be attatched to Legion any longer; but, he's still there.) I told my shop that I'll be getting all 52 for the first couple months; then, I'd let them know which I'll be keeping. :yay:

Flashpoint: Secret Seven #3

This issue reveals the person behind the deaths of the Secret Seven. Plus, he/she will have a huge effect in Flashpoint #4! Shade's team never got a chance to show us what they could do. It would be nice to see a form of them come together, though, when the New 52 starts up. Raven is much more interesting as a member of the Secret Seven than she is with Teen Titans, that's for sure. Plus, it was neat to see Amethyst return...if only to die last issue.

A good tie-in. One of the must-haves, in my opinion, for those who want to enjoy Flashpoint a bit more. :yay::yay:

Flashpoint: Batman - Knight Of Vengeance #3

For me, this is the best of all the Flashpoint tie-ins. It's in no way important to the Flashpoint main title; but, instead provides readers with a great Elseworlds type tale. In this issue, we see the origin of this new Joker (Bruce's mom, Martha), and how Bruce's death and her husband's becoming Batman leads to her insanity and life of crime. Even more dramatic and sad is the ending, when Thomas tells Martha of what becomes of her son in the true reality of the DC universe.

Fantastic book. And, while I hate the coincidence that Martha would actually end up becoming the Joker, it fits so nicely into Azzarello's story. :woot:

Flashpoint: Deathstroke and the Curse of the Ravager #3

One of the most disappointing of the Flashpoint tie-ins. I just didn't care for this versino of Deathstroke, and adding the Warlord bordered on ridiculous. This issue is probably the worst, as I didn't care if any of the characters lived or died. Maybe worst of all, we get a happy ending. Bleck! :csad:

Flashpoint: World Of Flashpoint #3

I loved the first issue, still liked the second; but, the this third stucked eggs. Not only does the writer give the reader a sappy, happy ending; but, the final battle between father and daughter just paled to what was happening around them. It just felt like a waste of my time. :dry:


Off Flashpoint for two more issues.

Retroactive: Wonder Woman - 1980's One-Shot

I find myself reading the reprint before the new story in the Retroactive books; because, they make the new one more understandable. This is a perfect issue to do that, because the reprint introduces the reader to the Silver Swan, and the new story tells of what became of her later. For anyone who might remember this story from the 80's, it's a nice conclusion to that character. Roy Thomas doesn't seem to just phone in this story, like I felt with other Retroactive books. He's making a nice addition to his original 1980's run.

This might be the best Retroactive yet. :yay:

Strawberry Shortcake #1

After being away for 25 years, Strawberry Shortcake returns to comics!!!

Okay, I know you're not excited; but, I got this book for my daughter. I thought she'd just love it; but, then, between the time I ordered it on my pull list and the time it came, my daughter decided the she didn't like Strawberry Shortcake any longer ... and, last month, she gave away all her Strawberry Shortcake toys and DVDs to Goodwill for another kid to enjoy. SHEESH!

Luckily, she said she wouldn't mind reading the comic book. So, yesterday, we sat down and read it together. It's not for non-Strawberry fans, of course; but, it's a real good first comic for those girls who love the cartoon and characters. It's also a great way to introduce a young child to the world of comics. From here, they might stem out into other books, like Richie Rich or Marvel's new line of Disney books.

This gets a :yay:, not because I particularily liked it; but, for the readers it's intended to be geared towards. It's a good gateway drug into the world of comics.
 
OH, and I have to give a shout-out for my awesome comic shop. Not only do they give me the variants at cover price (plus my 20% discount); but, now they are throwing in free posters that they get from the comic companies. I just really appreciate this little things they do. It's why I stay with them, even though I can find places online that could save me a ton of money.
 
I was underwhelmed by Punisher #1. There was nothing bad about the issue but it's all the same I've seen before. Punisher saves a cops life and he becomes his ally, Garth Ennis did this 10 years ago. Slap a few boobies and curse words in it and you have a PunisherMAX one shot. It brings nothing new to the table. A very matter-of-fact issue to say the least.
 
I was underwhelmed by Punisher #1. There was nothing bad about the issue but it's all the same I've seen before. Punisher saves a cops life and he becomes his ally, Garth Ennis did this 10 years ago. Slap a few boobies and curse words in it and you have a PunisherMAX one shot. It brings nothing new to the table. A very matter-of-fact issue to say the least.
Garth Ennis used more words.

The Punisher #1: I love Greg Rucka. That is all.
:up:
 
I'm really really hoping Rucka takes this oppurtunity to add a new layer to the punisher. I'm so sick of the mindless, heartless killing machine that we've had for the past decade. I would like to see more humanity integrated in the punisher's personality. This is a good time to reinvent him like Waid is doing with DD right now.
 
The Punisher relaunch nowhere nearly accomplished what DD's did. I didn't read Moon Knight so I can't comment there.
 
Moon Knight is...ok so far. With bendis you always have to wait and see.
 
My comic shop sold out of Severed #1 before I could get a copy so I have to wait until next week. Good to know that it's really good.

Batman: Knight of Vengeance #3 - This was great. The exchange about Thomas being able to "save" Bruce was the high point of the book. I kinda (i stress that: kinda) wish it didn't reference Flashpoint so explicitly, mainly because I'm not reading the main event, and it felt kind of random to throw out there. But it lead to a brilliant moment that was absolutely heartbreaking. This book, along with Azzarello and Risso's past Batman work only further proves that these guys should get an on-going Bat-title. Hell, kick Finch & co. off The Dark Knight and give the positions to these guys.

Punisher #1 - Good, but a little underwhelming. Nowhere near as awesome as Daredevil #1, and thankfully, nowhere near as bad as Moon Knight #1. It was just...alright. I'm interested in this premise so far because it looks like Rucka may be going the Gotham Central route, using cops to tell a Punisher story, thus taking the main focus off The Punisher and putting it on his actions, and the consequences instead. Artwork was pretty good, though I initially thought that Frank accidentally shot the cop's partner in the Interview story. I also thought it was a little hard to follow in other areas, but whatever. I'll stick with it. Speaking of cops though, wouldn't it be cool if Brubaker and Rucka got back together to do a Gotham Central esque series focusing on NYC cops dealing with the heroes and villains of the Marvel U? Has this been done before?

Gates of Gotham #4 - Scott Snyder strikes again! The character moments have been the absolute best things about this series. The story is also pretty damn engaging. I see how it ties in with Snyder's run in Detective, and I look forward to seeing how this series ties in with Snyder's upcoming run on Batman. Trevor McCarthy is a fantastic artist and was sorely missed on this issue. As much as I like Dustin Nguyen, his style here, aping McCarthy, just didn't work for me. It's like when they replaced Mike Zeck in the last issue of Punisher: Circle of Blood. The new artist tried aping Zeck's style for consistency, but you could easily tell something wasn't quite right. Hopefully, McCarthy is back next issue. As for Kyle Higgins, I expect Nightwing to kick ass. If this book proves anything, it's that Higgins has some writing chops.

Zorro Rides Again #1 - I'm missing the issues between this book and Wagner's second arc of Zorro so I missed a few things. That didn't stop this issue from not being awesome. Wagner's flair for writing pulp adventure stories is in full force this issue, and it kept me turning the pages. I loved it. I think the third and final(unless there's more to come) TPB of Wagner's initial run is coming out soon so I'll have to buy it and fill in the gaps. I wonder why DC never asked Matt Wagner to take over either the Spirit or, perhaps more befitting of his abilities, Doc Savage. Both of those books needed what Wagner has. Oh well. I get more Zorro instead. I'll take it.

Red Skull: Incarnate #2 - This book is cold, man. Absolutely chilling. The first issue left me going "Holy ****." while slowly putting the book down. The same happened here. This is some great stuff.
 
I just want to copy/paste my thoughts on Avengers Academy #17 from it's own thread:

This issue blew me away. Gage has me on the edge of my seat so to speak. I haven't been able to say that about a Marvel comic in a very long time. It's a crime that more people aren't buying this, they are truly missing out on a great action/drama. I'm just happy Marvel is throwing it's full support behind this book. It's the best title they have right now across the line.

This book has a jumping on point coming up shortly - I urge any of you that are not reading this book to reconsider in the next month or so. Gage takes 2 of the Worthy in Absorbing Man and Titania and makes them into a very credible threat for the team of Avengers in training. I mean, nobody really cares about any of the Worthy outside of Sin, Hulk and Thing.....right? Now I do. Things are looking dire for these kids, somebody definitely isn't walking away from this one.
 
August's here, let's get to it with the spoilers!

DREAD'S BOUGHT/THOUGHT FOR 8/3/11:

BATMAN BEYOND #8: This continues to be a rare ongoing title in which the fill-in artist is usually stronger than the regular artist. Given that DC is relaunching their entire line of superhero comics, this becomes a title caught in the middle. The end of the issue promises not issue nine in a month's time, but that "Batman Beyond will return" in a subsequent story "coming soon from DC". How does one define "soon"? While DC claims they will be launching more BEYOND material based around Superman and Justice League Unlimited in the near future, the status of this book is unknown. It would be silly to relaunch a book after eight issues, especially as sales are still decent. Will this become like HELLBLAZER - technically a DC Universe comic that will continue unmolested? Regardless, that editorial turmoil does not distract from the greatness of this issue - called either "The Story Of Inque" (cover) or simply "Inque" (page one). This issue is a faithful "done in one" story which mines a wealth of material from the TV show which doesn't continue any of the subplots from the previous issue. For those not in the know, Inque was a female enemy of the young Batman of 2040 who was loosely inspired by Clayface but like with many Beyond villains, has streaks of originality as well. In that way, BATMAN BEYOND was more clever than, say, SPIDER-MAN 2099 which just wheeled out 2099 copies of standard villains. Adam Beechen spins a tale in which Batman (Terry McGinnis) tries to stop Inque from stealing some hi-tech Maguffin and fails. This isn't a problem as Inque is the focus of this issue, and her entire origin is told. The TV show had delved into this back in the 3rd season episode "INQUELING" from September 2000, and this issue utilizes material from that episode as well as expands it. A tragic immigrant from a war torn nation, Inque has had a life in which she has had to choose between either a bad choice or a worse choice in an attempt to survive. After being mutated by scientists and having to abandon her daughter, Inque became a professional metahuman criminal, and for a while became quite wealthy and successful at it. Unfortunately, her cells are now breaking down, and she has to do jobs merely to gain more of the chemical that she needs to inject into herself to live a bit longer. The biggest change to Inque is the voice that Beechen gives her in narration; while she often acted very cold to Batman in the TV show, Beechen's version of her makes her a more sympathetic, reluctant mercenary who seems to want to actually appeal to Batman for assistance and mercy - she merely believes he'd never listen. Inque remains one of few enemies that Terry is unable to defeat on his own, and given that she's come very close to killing him at least twice, he'd likely be justified in brushing her off. The artwork by Chris Batista, the guest artist, is extraordinary - while Ryan Benjaman's pencils as the regular artists are great, Batista is simply producing at a higher level. Rich Perrotta is the guest inker, while David Baron remains the regular colorist. While the status of a 9th issue is unknown for the moment, if this has to be an issue before a break, DC have chosen a simple, yet strong, issue to rest on. It showcases Beechen's ability to adapt a series that spins off from a TV show from a decade ago while still developing new material out of it with the established universe and characters.

AVENGERS ACADEMY #17: This, the best Avengers comic Marvel publishes, continues along it's mandatory crossover with the FEAR ITSELF event. Between Giant-Size specials, the .1 Initiative, and a stepped up publishing schedules, this title has been shipping an issue about every two weeks for most of this quarter. While FEAR ITSELF as a series is proving to be the poorest selling of Marvel's annual summer events since they started doing them again in 2004, it has provided a modest sales boost for some of the smaller titles that it has crossed over with. Both THUNDERBOLTS and this series saw a boost of some 3,000 copies sold in June, which is a good sign as ACADEMY has proven to have a steady, reliable audience of about 23,000 readers (usually more). While that's nowhere near the Top 70 in most months, it's enough to be above cancellation range and propell the book into a second year - a milestone for new launches featuring C-List Avengers and new, ethnically diverse teenage characters. While writer Christos Gage continues to be hand-cuffed by the editorial mandate that none of "The Worthy" - the hammer carrying baddies of FEAR ITSELF - can be defeated in any title not written (or formerly written) by Matt Fraction (writer of FEAR ITSELF), he has capitalized on this event to showcase his characters having a trail by fire. The battle against the mad god Korvac was nothing compared to this. Sean Chen - one of two rotating regular artists on this series for the past few months - handles art chores for this issue, alongside Andrew Hennessy on inks and the reliable Jeromy Cox on colors.

After two issues, the students of the Academy have finally finished their tour of duty in Washington, D.C. They were tasked with helping to repel Sin's army of Neo-Nazi in giant mechanical exoskeleton weapons and saving civilians (as well as cops and soldiers). While they were mostly successful, all of them have suffered physical and emotional wounds - Veil and Mettle more so than the rest. Both of them resorted to having to kill enemies on the field, and while Veil has a cold resolve about it, Mettle is deeply troubled. A key moment arises when they meet Falcon for the first time, and he realizes they're no longer "kids", but "veterans" of superhero duty, and decides to be honest with them. The kids are allowed to go back to the Infinite Mansion to recover from their mission, although things naturally don't end smoothly for them. Irritated by being banished from their attack in Dubai by Giant-Man last issue, Absorbing Man and Titania - now possessed by evil Norse gods and carrying godly hammers - decide to get even by invading the Infinite Mansion to strike at the kids for revenge. Much like with Korvac, the kids will be forced to face a challenge that even their adult mentors have been unable to handle. Unlike with Korvac, they may not get a power-boost by a plot convenient heroine to survive it. While a battle against those two villains before FEAR ITSELF might have been a simple half issue action sequence, FEAR ITSELF has given them a massive boost in power, and made them epic threats again. If FEAR ITSELF has done anything well, it has allowed certain villains who had become weakened or less threatening over the years - like Juggernaut, Attuma, and Grey Gargoyle - to once again be incredible challenges.

Unlike the last two issues, there are more talking scenes in this issue than action, which is a good way for the reader to catch a breath. The interactions between the characters are strong, and one can see how their latest challenge have effected them. Despite this series about to reach the year and a half mark, this may be the first major battle the cadets are about to enter in which they will not only not have adult heroes to back them up, but will lack a plot convenient power-up. Yet, much like with NEW MUTANTS back in the 80's, all of their previous adventures have still been exciting. Chen's artwork is strong for both the action as well as the more subtle scenes, and Cox's colors remain very strong and supplement the pencils terrifically.

There are only two drawbacks. The first is the aforementioned editorial mandate, unofficial of course, that none of the event's big villains can be defeated in a book that is not "important" enough. While FEAR ITSELF, INVINCIBLE IRON MAN and UNCANNY X-MEN to a degree all count, it will remain to be seen if AVENGERS ACADEMY will be allowed to have something that major occur in it. It would be incredible if Gage's new creations were allowed to actually defeat some mighty minions of a crossover event on their own (and such a thing might, gasp, boost sales for the trade paperback), but I won't believe it until I see it. Regardless of such mandates - which Gage often faced when utilizing the Hood - the stories are always entertaining despite it. The second drawback is a larger inconsistency between how the various characters who are possessed by evil Norse gods as "The Worthy" talk and interact. Some of them, namely Juggernaut, Hulk, and Thing, seem to be incapable of English speech and only occasionally hesitate in sporadic moments. Others, like Sin, Absorbing Man, and Titania, can talk fairly normally and seem to have some partial control over themselves - Creel's vengeance against Pym has proven a key segment of this story (and allows this crossover to feel like it matters more since it ties into a subplot from the 7th issue). This is staggering considering Creel had below average intelligence, although he has also literally absorbed psychic energy before. However, these are hiccups compared to the overall quality of the narrative, and are perhaps out of Gage's control.

As he did on AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE, Christos Gage continues to apply the wise strategy of using an obligatory crossover to iron out his own subplots and showcase what his characters are made of. If June's sales boost was truly due to the event (and not merely a variant cover or so), then it would be great if those fans stuck around for the future. In conclusion, AVENGERS ACADEMY continues to be one of the best launches of HEROIC AGE. It's survival compared to other launches of 2010 is no fluke, but proof of it's quality. While it may be far more mainstream than RUNAWAYS was, it's a more consistent and timely work than YOUNG AVENGERS was. There's never a bad time to jump aboard the bandwagon - even if it is a modest bandwagon.

HERC #6: Much like AVENGERS ACADEMY, this has also quietly shifted into a near bi-monthly schedule; unlike AVENGERS ACADEMY, sales have nose dived since the debut. While Marvel intend to continue publishing new issues through October, it is inevitable that this will be canceled and/or relaunched soon after as sales are below Marvel's usual cancellation range for ongoing series. This is the end of HERC's tie in with FEAR ITSELF, and whatever boost it got from that crossover in terms of sales was minimal at best. Greg Pak and Fred Van Lente use FEAR ITSELF as merely background noise to set the stage for their own saga, in which Kyknos (son of Ares) and Hecate seek to exploit FEAR ITSELF to warp Brooklyn in their twisted image and revive Ares in a sea of blood. To this end, Kyknos has run a vicious street gang called the Warhawks and Hecate is doing a lot of dark magic to make citizens turn on each other. Only civilians who seem to be on Hercules' side seem to be free of such possession. Continuing from the last issue, Herc has infiltrated Kyknos' stronghold in Luna Park alongside his unlikely escaped con allies Griffen, Man-Bull and Basilisk, and has a final battle against Kyknos. The ending won't offer a surprise, but it is still a satisfying ending to this arc that offers a lot of action and a few chuckles as well. Neil Edwards continues on regular art, and while he is a very solid artist for standard superhero fare, his ability to enhance any of the comedy through art is virtually non-existent. Cory Hamscher handles the inks with Jesus Aburtov on colors. The next issue looks to be a gasp for breath before yet another crossover with an event in the near future - AMAZING SPIDER-MAN's "SPIDER-ISLAND". Longtime fans of the INCREDIBLE HERCULES saga that Pak and Van Lente have worked on since 2008 should still be very satisfied with this series, although it is very puzzling why this relaunch has fizzled in terms of sales so quickly. The first issue at the start of the year was literally the best selling Pak/Van Lente Hercules issue since 2009, and CHAOS WAR sold decently as a monthly series and a trade paperback. Yet sales fell over 55% with issue two and never recovered; the series is selling as well (or poorly) as HEROIC AGE: PRINCE OF POWER, which featured Amadeus Cho adventuring without Herc (and alongside a reluctant Thor). Why have INCREDIBLE HERCULES' fans seemed to jump off for this relaunch? It is possible that the set up - Hercules as a mortal hero with slightly higher intelligence defending Brooklyn as a street level hero with magic weaponry - doesn't appeal to them. It is also possible that the lack of Amadeus Cho as a sidekick to bounce off of has effected the series' flow enough that it turned off some longtime fans. It has been proven that Cho cannot sell a comic well on his own without being teamed up with Hercules (or the Hulk); after nearly three years, is Herc able to sell without Cho? At any rate, those who have enjoyed the shift in the status quo should be pleased with the end result.

HEROES FOR HIRE #10: For the record, this is the third launch of a Marvel comic titled “Heroes For Hire” in the past 11 years. The first version launched by John Ostrander and artist Pasqual Ferry ended in 1999; the second volume launched out of CIVIL WAR from 2006-2007 which was written by Justin Gray, Jimmy Palmoitti and Zeb Wells; and finally, this version launched last year by “cosmic” writers Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning. This naturally doesn’t include the use of the name “heroes for hire” during the old POWER MAN AND IRON FIST series of the 70’s and 80’s. Thus, one can say this series has proven to be just as tenacious as THE DEFENDERS (who will get a relaunch in December). The premise has been a departure from some of the prior volumes; Misty Knight and Paladin are the only reoccurring characters, and they essentially team up with different heroes for every arc. Marvel has had many “team up” style books; the classic MARVEL TEAM UP that often starred Spider-Man; the original MARVEL COMICS PRESENTS, which often had Wolverine teaming up with someone; and even DEADPOOL TEAM-UP more recently. The point is that most “team up” books usually have as a star a character who is at the A or B level in terms of popularity; not C or D-Listers. While the premise of the book has been engaging, the sales figures on it have been weak. Thus, issue twelve will be the last; the series will then pick up where it left off as a SPIDER-ISLAND tie-in mini series, and then be relaunched at the end of the year as VILLAIN TEAM-UP.

This is the second of a three issue tie in with FEAR ITSELF, which has not boosted sales much at all, according to June’s figures. Spider-Man was trucked out as a guest star for three issues, but it didn’t trim the bleeding any. At any rate, Misty Knight is rallying heroes under her company to try to assist in keeping the peace during the chaos of FEAR ITSELF. She’s dispatched Paladin and the Gargoyle (a DEFENDERS C-Lister, which in itself tells you how obscure he is; that’s like being a third string player for the New York Islanders) to try to stop the possessed Thing on Yancy Street, while pointing Elektra and Shroud at the Raft prison to try to stem the flow of inmate escapees. Paladin and Gargoyle do little more than survive Thing’s rampage, and hang around to try to tend to civilians. Unfortunately, a random low level crook caught in the destruction has happened to get mutated into some fear-mongering superhuman monster through sheer poor luck, and the two Yancy Street defenders get sucked under his spell. Will Misty save them? Considering that two out of the last three arcs have relied on Misty exiting her “control” position and entering the fray herself for the critical battle, the answer is likely “yes”. Meanwhile at the Raft, Shroud and Elektra run afoul of the Purple Man, arch nemesis of Daredevil and Luke Cage who can control other people via pheromones. However, because simply possessing the two heroes has to be saved for the cliffhanger page, Purple Man spends half the issue driving inmates against them.

Kyle Hotz handles his second issue of fill-in art in place of Brad Walker, and overall does a solid job. He draws an awkward looking Misty Knight, but he handles all of the other characters well. A moment in which Elektra and Shroud fight off goons in the dark is especially thrilling; Shroud in particular seems to benefit from Hotz’s almost otherworldly style. He’s backed up by Bob Almond on inks and Jay David Ramos on colors.

While the story is entertaining enough, there is a faint sense of filling the pages to satisfy an event tie-in. Certain elements of the story seem added merely to allow the narrative to stretch into three issues rather than two; the aforementioned random metahuman that Paladin and Gargoyle encounter, and Purple Man deciding to throw minions at Elektra and Shroud until it’s most dramatic. These things wouldn’t be as glaring if they weren’t so obvious; akin to special effects that one can “see through” and thus take you out of the fantasy of a film. If Abnett and Lanning wanted to delay Paladin and Gargoyle a while, they could have thrown in any random villain who escaped from the Raft, instead of going through the hoops of having one get created amid the chaos. It also doesn’t help that none of the grunts in the Raft besides Purple Man are recognizable, so they all blur into a sea of freaks in uniforms. Continuity hounds had best not remember a past issue of FEAR ITSELF: THE HOME FRONT in which a one page Howard Chaykin strip clearly showed Purple Man escaping the Raft, only for him to have hung around in this series a month or two later. Editors, where are you?

Despite the quibbles, the overall story is still entertaining. It has a lot of action and fans of such low level characters – the sorts of fans who buy up Marvel Handbooks every time they’re published – should be pleased with how well they’re treated. Misty Knight and Paladin haven’t had this much focus in years (if not a decade) and have benefited from it. Guest characters are often treated well; while the Shroud still comes off as a poor man’s Shadow, he still works as a pulp hero. Elektra demanding double her assassin’s fee to NOT kill enemies is a clever touch. As for Gargoyle…he’s just here because it’s been a few years since he turned up in a comic (THE LAST DEFENDERS #1 from 2007-2008 if memory serves), and certain characters circulate like that.

While I am one of those Marvel Handbook fans who loves the obscure, a lack of a regular cast of at least semi-recognizable characters can be a problem for attracting more casual buyers. Even the modest selling AVENGERS ACADEMY, which features new teenage heroes, also features well known Avengers like Giant-Man and Quicksilver on the cast. The prior incarnations of HEROES FOR HIRE all had an established and reliable cast. At the very least, either out of editorial fortitude or Marvel’s desire to publish at least 85 comics a month at all costs, Abnett and Lanning will get a chance to go further with their story.

An entertaining, if not ground breaking, issue. The climax next month should be the peak.
 
Last, and sort of least:

THUNDERBOLTS #161: While this is a FEAR ITSELF tie in, the event itself has sunken into the background of Jeff Parker's plot. Because this title isn't as important as UNCANNY X-MEN, the Juggernaut has leaped off and the Thunderbolts have been unable to apprehend or release him. They return to what's left of the Raft to regroup and fight another one of those odd things that Parker delights at throwing his teams at. Declan Shalvey continues on his fill in run, with two colorists in tow. It sales a lot when the recap page has to make mention of a dozen roster members.

Parker has Satana get around Man-Thing also being yanked from him (she basically grows a new version of him, apparently), and the team goes to stop one of Baron Zemo's biological weapons that Sin apparently stole from him and launched at a city. It's a neat touch and allows us to revisit the subplot of Techno being a mole for Zemo within the squad. Meanwhile, the Beta Squad of Thunderbolts await their chance to escape, and solicits already reveal they'll be successful. While Parker brings up a Maguffin from a prior issue, he has seemed to slip into his usual pattern of having his team fight random oddities. And while that was fun in AGENTS OF ATLAS, which had a small and intimate cast, this book has too many characters for that sort of thing to work as well. I imagine once the beta squad goes on the run, things will get interesting; but why the wait to get there?

If this were a $3.99 book, I'd be gone; even if even at it's worst, it's usually better than SECRET AVENGERS was. Every issue lately seems just good enough that I stick around for more, because I know better issues are coming.
 
Red Skull #2

Love that Marvel is telling the Red Skull's history before he became the Red Skull; but, I found myself not enjoying this issue as much as the last. I guess they are showing a portrait of a psychopath with no empathy; and, maybe being a father makes that type of twisted youth more difficult to read about. Good issue, I guess. Just left me feeling a bit empty at the end. :yay:

Wolverine #13

While this storyline is being dragged out, I've been loving it. Usually, Wolverine doesn't rank very high on my reading list; but, this one was at the top of my Marvel stack. What's really enjoyable are the stories from the individuals who want revenge on Logan. I like the different perspectives, and it makes whatever is behind the door that much more interesting. Next issue, we find out. I'm just hoping it doesn't disappoint. I'll miss the backstory, that's for sure. :yay::yay:

Retroactive: Batman - 1980's One-Shot

Good reprint, giving us the first chapter of Batman: Year Two; but, the new comic was pretty damn awful. Mike Barr wrote both; but, he did the memory of The Reaper a huge disservice by presenting us with a new version. The new story looks awful, and these books have been really hampered by subpar art. (Too bad they couldn't get the original artists, as the reprints have been much better than the new material with these books.)

Retroactive was a nice concept; but, overall, it's been a huge disappointment. This would get my lowest rating, but a good reprint makes me give it a :dry:.

Punisher #1

Gotta put in my two cents about this issue, finally. I can see both sides; but, I think the most important factor is that this is really the set-up issue. It's really difficult to grade how the book is going to be; because, we don't get a whole lot to talk about. It's very dialogue-light; but, the art does keep those pages with no talk interesting still. There are some very nice visuals; and, I even light the slightly blurred skull on Frank's chest. Best of all, I enjoyed the backup story that explains to the readers who one of the main cops is, and how he has a past history with The Punisher.

This issue doesn't give a reader a complete grasp of the book, like Waid's Daredevil; but, maybe that will be the beauty of it. A bit of mystery is good, and that's something Rucka is brilliant at. It definitely has a new feel for the character, which is something that both Punisher, Moon Knight, and Daredevil needed. I think Bendis, Rucka, and Waid have done a good job at that. I'm also giving this a pretty high ranking, because I know what Rucka can do, and I think I've got a glimpse at what this comic will be like. :yay::yay:

'68 #3

If you're sick of zombies, this might not be the book for you; but, I will say that if you are missing good zombie action in Kirkman's Walking Dead, then this IS the book for you. It's gruesome, zombie-filled, and full of thrills. I love that it's set during the Vietnam War; and, this issue brings the horror to the States. Can't wait for the final issue, and the subsequent one-shot that will follow it. :yay:

Zorro Rides Again #1

Matt Wagner picks up where his last series left off (and, don't worry; the other two minis have nothing to do with Wagner's story; so, you're not missing anything if you didn't read it). He gets right into the action, and we even get some personal development for the main character. (His dad discovers his secret.) :yay:
 
I'm really really hoping Rucka takes this oppurtunity to add a new layer to the punisher. I'm so sick of the mindless, heartless killing machine that we've had for the past decade. I would like to see more humanity integrated in the punisher's personality. This is a good time to reinvent him like Waid is doing with DD right now.
Every time people have tried to reinvent the Punisher, they've failed miserably. The best Punisher runs have been the ones where people embrace the Punisher's core concept--limited though it may seem--and build interesting stories around that. Rucka's easily one of the best writers working in comics right now, as far as I'm concerned, so my hope is just that he stays true to Frank's core spirit and builds some cool, gritty crime stories around that. It may seem like old hat because the first issue consisted mainly of Frank using cops for intel and showing up to shoot and/or scare the s*** out of bad guys, which we've all seen in virtually every Punisher comic book since the dawn of time, but Gotham Central was just a bunch of cops waxing angsty over Mr. Freeze killing one of their own in its first issue; that didn't stop it from growing into one of the best damn comic series ever by the time Rucka and Brubaker closed up shop on it. The potential for some interesting stuff with the Punisher was set forth here. I'm willing to give Rucka the benefit of the doubt and see how he builds the relationships and tone and murder mysteries/shooty-bang-bang action stuff that will comprise the real substance of his run based on the fact that he hasn't failed to come through on those fronts for me yet.

Anyway, I'm catching up on my comics after reading books almost exclusively for the past few weeks now. I just got through both issues of Thor: Heaven and Earth that have dropped so far, and I have to say, Paul Jenkins just does not seem to be doing it for me. I know he can be a great writer--I've seen it in Inhumans and the original Sentry story and some other stuff. But either he's just not compatible with Thor or he's phoning this mini-series in. I can't think of any other way to explain how heavy-handed and clumsy these two issues have been.

The first sees the gods potentially facing Ragnarok for the umpteen-billionth time (yes, even we Thor fanatics get sick to death of that old chestnut) which segues into a shouting match between Thor and Loki on the nature of deceit. Loki argues that both lies and change can be good things while Thor basically just rages at him impotently, which is kind of where the issue falls apart for me. Thor can't do anything but rage impotently at Loki under the circumstances because of course lies and change can be good--literally everybody in the universe with a working brain should logically agree on that. Worse, Thor doesn't even really address the fact that the lie in question is whether the attack they currently face is Ragnarok and the change in question is the demise of all the gods. Under those circumstances, the logical argument would seem to be that whether the lies and changes are good or bad is not the issue; whether a species has the right to fight for its own survival is. They never get into that. Instead, Loki goes on for like 3 pages with examples of how lies can be good, and then Asgard splits in half and a little plant pops up in the crack. The end. Clearly, it's supposed to be some kind of metaphor about death giving way to new life, but come on, a tree is supposed to measure up to a race of gods? Rather than the eye-popping philosophical revelation I'm sure Jenkins intended, the scene of Thor staring at this tiny little plant comes off as silly, making the whole issue feel pointless by extension.

The second issue starts off more uniquely, at least. Thor flies down to a tenement building in the middle of New York because apparently Spider-Man's old villain Fusion has taken hostages and specifically requested Thor's presence in his list of demands. Thor used to deal with random street crime stuff like this a lot back in the '70s, but it dropped off considerably after Walt Simonson showed people how much more awesomely epic Thor fighting mythological demons and cosmic menaces could be. But personally I miss those smaller tales where Thor is vastly overpowered for some street crime situation, but it turns out his power is for naught because it won't help under the circumstances. So it is here: Fusion, whose son apparently killed himself by jumping off a building in an attempt to imitate Spider-Man, demands that Thor restore said son to life or he'll blow the very elaborately rigged bombs, killing all of the hostages. What ensues is a very psychedelic musing on the conflict between divine intervention and free will. (This is right about where I realized this mini-series is actually a thinly veiled soapbox for Jenkins to wax about all kinds of weighty issues.) Thor projects his and Fusion's astral selves into the future to show Fusion the devastation that mankind's abuse of the planet will engender in just a few generations, then shows him a potential future where humanity attempts to set things right starting right now. The latter results in a harmonious ecosystem, of course. There are a few missteps where Jenkins could've been a little subtler, but overall the metaphor works pretty well. But then he can't resist beating you over the head with the metaphor that little bit more, in the form of lyrics quoted from Bob Dylan's "Blowin' in the Wind." Just like that, the entire issue drops a few notches in quality because now I can't recall any of it without reliving that awful feeling of overpowering cheesiness I get from those lyrics.

So the series so far has been pretty mediocre. Well-intentioned, I guess, but Jenkins can't seem to get his narratives just right. It's tough to talk about serious social and moral issues in fictional form without coming off as preachy, but I suppose the silver lining to that particular cloud is that, hey, now you've got a Thor mini-series that can act as a perfect example of how not to do that right.
 
It's Sunday and I'm only just NOW getting to my reviews?!! I had to put off buying them until yesterday and then went to the drive in for a friend's birthday (saw Captain America again and Cowboys & Aliens). So I started reading them this morning.

The odd thing is that there are only 2 this week, at the moment. Reason being was that I was looking through my comics buylist and I just kept thinking about this DC relaunch and I'm curious about so many things but can't afford them. Then I looked at my list and realize there are things I'm just not enjoying... so why continue them? X-Factor being the prime candidate so I decided to just drop it (for now anyhow). Then I looked at Daken and I just don't like the book in the California spotlight under Williams's pen so I dropped that one (for now anyhow). I just get turned off on the Hollywood scene of just about anything, and the drug stuff annoys me. Then I looked at Moon Knight. I'm enjoying that one more than the other two but it's kinda just getting started, only 3 issues in, and I'm not really invested yet. I need to drop things anyhow and I was debating on whether spending $4 an issue was worth it or not. $3 would be fine for Moon Knight but $4 is a stretch. When I started it I thought it was $3 but if I'd known before starting that it was $4 ongoing I wouldn't have even started. I was still debating this when I went to the shop so I passed on issue 4 for now, though I won't call it dropped yet. I just won't buy a new issues until I decide. No point in wasting money. Not coming out this week... I also decided to likely skip out on the rest of the FF arc with Blackbolt. I was only buying it for him but it seems like it's a big plot already built up to and I don't really want to mess with that. I'll skim the issues to see if I buy them but likely not.

So having skipped on Daken, Moon Knight, and X-Factor... that only left me with 2 issues this week.... but wait.... there's more.

One of my previously dropped books (that Dread gave me grief about dropping ;) ) sounds very interesting in upcoming solicits (especially with the hinted inclusion of a Runaway or two) and it's gotten nothing but praise since I dropped it... and I honestly liked the title when I DID drop it. So with all that I bit the bullet and got caught up on Avengers Academy again. I skipped out on the Giant issue and the Amazing Spider-Man tie-ins, but I'm up to date as of this week and still reading them. But that one I'm not throwing in here just yet until I'm finished with it. I figure if I dropped $13 of comics and picked up $3 of new, that's still gain. Sadly, I sold issues 1-10 and could onl find issue 2 at half-priced books so I'll have to hunt those down in time as well. No hurry though.

And now... on to the two issues I did buy this week:

X-23 #13 - This issue reminds me of how much I miss ol' Spidey. Sadly, the Amazing Spider-Man title doesn't reflect the Spidey I love so I can't get into that anymore. Anyhow, this issue has X-23 and Spidey fighting together to save people from some mysterious entity that's causing some problems and it leads into the FF guest stars for the next couple of issues.

The solicit for next issue asks what cosmic force is targeting X-23, Spider-Man, and Invisible Woman while tearing up New York in the process. I think the answer is pretty obvious, or at least parts of it, if you know about the characters's past. The only thing that combines these three is the Enigma Force (Captain Universe) since they've all been a host... so I'm guessing the entity is that gone rogue or something following traces of it or something. I've always liked Captain Universe stuff so I hope I'm right.

Either way, this is probably one of my favorite books each month. I just reall enjoy Laura ,and while I don't know where sales are for it, I hope this title lasts a while longer. I'm loving Gambit it in (and the cameo of Cecelia Reyes was nice too).

Batman: Gates of Gotham #4 - Also a good book. This mini is one I wasn't even planning to buy but the covers caught my eye and the story sucked me in. I love the feel of the story with old Gotham being relevant, the families, and the inclusion of the "other" Batman heroes (Dick, Damian, Tim, and Cassandra). I like Hush so his addition is nice, and then Penguin is cool too. And honestly, I feel this is a great building of a potential new character for the Bat-Rogues. The Architect is very interesting and I love his look. Fantastic issue.

Best and Worst of the Week

This really isn't fair... but...

Best: X-23 #13 - This one was just that enjoyable to me. I love Spidey and being able to read him without the distractions of the post-OMD Spidey-verse is always enjoyable. Cecelia and Gambit's scene was a nice addition and Laura just coming into her own issue after issue has been a joy to see. Honestly, if people still call her a "wolverine wannabe" they just aren't reading the book. She's a character all of her own these days and I love it.

Worst: DC Comics: The New 52 #1 - That's right baby, I'm cheating! This isn't new and it's only a preview but I got it this week and I didn't want to put Gates of Gotham in the "worst" category because it doesn't deserve it. I don't like previews really so this is going here... suck on that!
 
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The end of the issue promises not issue nine in a month's time, but that "Batman Beyond will return" in a subsequent story "coming soon from DC". How does one define "soon"? While DC claims they will be launching more BEYOND material based around Superman and Justice League Unlimited in the near future, the status of this book is unknown.
Batman Beyond will relaunch in 2012 with the story arc "10,000 Clowns." So it sounds like it'll come out sooner rather than later.

Will this become like HELLBLAZER - technically a DC Universe comic that will continue unmolested?
Hellblazer is not a DC Universe title, it's a Vertigo title that is not a part of the DC Universe. While it originally started within the DCU, the book pretty much developed it's own little continuity as DC wanted to separate the DCU from the Vertigo line. The John Constantine in the DCnU is a different and younger John Constantine from the John Constantine in the Vertigo Hellblazer title. Peter Milligan, writer of both Hellblazer and Justice League Dark, has confirmed this.

Longtime fans of the INCREDIBLE HERCULES saga that Pak and Van Lente have worked on since 2008 should still be very satisfied with this series, although it is very puzzling why this relaunch has fizzled in terms of sales so quickly. The first issue at the start of the year was literally the best selling Pak/Van Lente Hercules issue since 2009, and CHAOS WAR sold decently as a monthly series and a trade paperback. Yet sales fell over 55% with issue two and never recovered; the series is selling as well (or poorly) as HEROIC AGE: PRINCE OF POWER, which featured Amadeus Cho adventuring without Herc (and alongside a reluctant Thor). Why have INCREDIBLE HERCULES' fans seemed to jump off for this relaunch? It is possible that the set up - Hercules as a mortal hero with slightly higher intelligence defending Brooklyn as a street level hero with magic weaponry - doesn't appeal to them. It is also possible that the lack of Amadeus Cho as a sidekick to bounce off of has effected the series' flow enough that it turned off some longtime fans. It has been proven that Cho cannot sell a comic well on his own without being teamed up with Hercules (or the Hulk); after nearly three years, is Herc able to sell without Cho? At any rate, those who have enjoyed the shift in the status quo should be pleased with the end result.
My personal theory is that most fans feel that the Incredible Hercules saga ended with Chaos War. Van Lente and Pak pretty much pitched their Hercules story from Against the World to Chaos War and for some reason decided to continue on past that. The fact that Herc really wasn't a part of the original story pitch, kinda shows in Herc since while it is still a good book, it is nowhere near the perfection that was the Incredible Hercules. The decline in quality alongside that this book really doesn't feel like the Incredible Hercules is why I think that Herc is selling nowhere near the Incredible Hercules.

You also have to take into account that the Incredible Hercules took over from the Incredible Hulk, so a lot of buyers of the book were probably Hulk completionists who thought that Hulk would eventually return to the book. And when it became apparent that the Hulk was not coming back, they flat out left, they were never interested in Hercules to begin with. Once fans realized that the Hulk was not coming back, the books sales dropped rather fast (the same thing happened with Dark Wolverine and is happening with Black Panther).
 
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Rachel Rising #1

Man, I wish I could talk with Terry Moore; because, I have a few questions about this book. Namely, in the opening scene with Rachel rising from the dead, is that a character from Strangers In Paradise?? After Echo, I got the distinct impression that his various series will take place in the SIP world, which I just love. Also, it's not essential for new readers to have read SIP. It's just these little appearances that get those of us who loved the book to get all giddy again.

Good first issue. But, like with Echo, the reader is left wanting MORE! It all rushes by so quickly, that we're just getting our foot in the water when we're told we have to leave. And, maybe this first issue, having the first half contain no dialogue, that makes me feel it more than any Terry Moore issue before. I cannot wait for the next issue. And, while I want to give this book my highest review, that feeling of wanting has to make me drop it a notch. :yay::yay:

I saw this and skimmed it. Having liked Echo (well, the first 2/3rds of it anyhow) I was REALLY tempted to pick it up but I just couldn't do it. I need to CUT books and already need to figure out about 8 books to cut (including all the relaunched DC's I want to try) by September. I just can't add another. I figure if I don't start Rachel Rising, I won't miss it.

Looks like you'll be alone on this one, Phaed.

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Gates of Gotham #4 - Scott Snyder strikes again! The character moments have been the absolute best things about this series. The story is also pretty damn engaging. I see how it ties in with Snyder's run in Detective, and I look forward to seeing how this series ties in with Snyder's upcoming run on Batman. Trevor McCarthy is a fantastic artist and was sorely missed on this issue. As much as I like Dustin Nguyen, his style here, aping McCarthy, just didn't work for me. It's like when they replaced Mike Zeck in the last issue of Punisher: Circle of Blood. The new artist tried aping Zeck's style for consistency, but you could easily tell something wasn't quite right. Hopefully, McCarthy is back next issue. As for Kyle Higgins, I expect Nightwing to kick ass. If this book proves anything, it's that Higgins has some writing chops.

I'm not reading Detective. How does the mini and that title connect?
 
Batman Beyond will relaunch in 2012 with the story arc "10,000 Clowns." So it sounds like it'll come out sooner rather than later.

But...2012 doesn't start for another 4 months, at earliest. That's a hiatus for those of us outside of DC; to them, that's just the time David Finch needs to draw one page of his Batman comic.

Given that Beechen dug into the cartoon deeply for the Blight arc, I wonder if "10,000 Clowns" may go into "RETURN OF THE JOKER" territory a bit. At any rate, waiting until 2012 means a break to me. Sure, DC has some other material coming out soon, like some Levitz SUPERMAN UNLIMITED thing, but I may not bother with it.

Hellblazer is not a DC Universe title, it's a Vertigo title that is not a part of the DC Universe. While it originally started within the DCU, the book pretty much developed it's own little continuity as DC wanted to separate the DCU from the Vertigo line. The John Constantine in the DCnU is a different and younger John Constantine from the John Constantine in the Vertigo Hellblazer title. Peter Milligan, writer of both Hellblazer and Justice League Dark, has confirmed this.

Fair 'nough.

My personal theory is that most fans feel that the Incredible Hercules saga ended with Chaos War. Van Lente and Pak pretty much pitched their Hercules story from Against the World to Chaos War and for some reason decided to continue on past that. The fact that Herc really wasn't a part of the original story pitch, kinda shows in Herc since while it is still a good book, it is nowhere near the perfection that was the Incredible Hercules. The decline in quality alongside that this book really doesn't feel like the Incredible Hercules is why I think that Herc is selling nowhere near the Incredible Hercules.

You also have to take into account that the Incredible Hercules took over from the Incredible Hulk, so a lot of buyers of the book were probably Hulk completionists who thought that Hulk would eventually return to the book. And when it became apparent that the Hulk was not coming back, they flat out left, they were never interested in Hercules to begin with. Once fans realized that the Hulk was not coming back, the books sales dropped rather fast (the same thing happened with Dark Wolverine and is happening with Black Panther).

True, but even after the exodus of those INCREDIBLE HULK fans, INCREDIBLE HERCULES usually averaged over 24k for most issues. In fact, the hike in price to $3.99 an issue led to a second exodus of fans. That price point crushed a lot of small books, either director or indirectly. NOVA had rock solid sales for an entire year before then, and then quickly slipped to cancellation level.

You have a point about HERC; the writers did more because editorial was likely impressed enough by CHAOS WAR's rebound and Marvel is never one to let a story end if there's a buck to be made. Plus, I imagine Pak and Van Lente enjoy it, so why not have another go? I'm just missing an artist who can do physical comedy; Neil Edwards ain't it.
 
Dread, while your here (hopefully), did you watch the new Thundercats show? I ask only because some in the thread about it has been clamoring for you to review it, though he's unsure if you even knew it existed or not.
 
Dunno about Dread, but I saw it. Good first ep, piss-poor follow-up. Worrisome when the second episode of a series feels like filler.
 
Dread, while your here (hopefully), did you watch the new Thundercats show? I ask only because some in the thread about it has been clamoring for you to review it, though he's unsure if you even knew it existed or not.

I knew of it and haven't seen it yet. I was never the biggest THUNDERCATS fan. But I have heard good things about it, and the character designs look decent. Many 80's shows, while classic for nostalgia reasons, were products of their time and have seen good relaunches. The 2002 era "HEMAN AND THE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE" and the 2003 era "TMNT" (at least until it's 6th season) apply.
 

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