Bought/Thought Thread for 7/6/11 - SPOILERS!

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Fear Itself #4

It's too bad that Marvel's big event coincides with DC's; because, simply put, Flashpoint blows it out of the water. This single issue might be the worst yet, and it all comes down to one scene. Tony Stark showing how much he needs Odin's help by drinking a bottle of wine. Idiotic, ridiculous, and shameful! It peeves me to no end, and the concept and sacrifice that Tony makes as Fraction is trying to relate to readers just doesn't work for me.

Another way Flashpoint continues to shine and make this book seem worse is in the way both stories are handled. With the Flashpoint tie-ins, they lend themselves beautifully to the main story. With Fear Itself, you have to read some of the tie-ins (like Invincible Iron Man) to even understand what's happening with the various battles. Flashpoint keeps readers up to date, while Fear Itself will only make readers scratch their heads. Also, each issue of Fear Itself doesn't even give you much story. You get flashes of single panel action around the globe, and Fraction seems to be satisfied with giving readers a single moment or two that is suppose to wow the audience. It's slow paced. What Fraction has told in four issues is what Flashpoint does in an issue or two.

Disappointing! :dry:

Flashpoint #3

WOW! Those of us who've read the various Flashpoint tie-ins are being rewarded for the experience. Just last week I was bragging about Canterbury Cricket, and he shows up in this issue with Wildstorm's Grifter! (Awesome scene!!!) This also ties in to Lois Lane and the Resistance. Best of all, it's not essential that you've read those other books. It's just the icing on the cake....or the cherry on top of the sundae. Last week's Project Superman ended with the coming of Superman as a baby. This issue shows us what happened next.

What can I say, this is a fantastic event that DC has crafted; and, I love they aren't stretching it all out, like with Fear Itself. Just five issues. (Yeah, all those tie-ins are a bit much on the pocketbook. But, for the most part, they've been well worth the investment.) The Flash regains his powers in this issue, recruits Thomas Wayne to help him reform the Justicwe League, and rescue Superman from his prison. (Poor Krypto!) We also get a great cliffhanger!!! :woot:

Flashpoint: Batman - Knight Of Vengeance #2

I was going to wait to do my reviews until I read more of my comics; and, it's easier when someone else has started it. BUT, there are times in your life when you read a great comic and you want to shout it from the roof top. This issue BLEW ME AWAY! I mean, I was one of the rare people who wasn't that impressed with the first issue, as I thought Johns did a better job with Thomas Wayne than Azzarello did. But, Wow. Holy Frickin' WOW, Batman! The last nine pages of this book are some of the best I've read in a while. It definitely goes down as better than any of the Bat-titles I've read in years. Selina Kyle is Oracle (oh, and so much worse off than her), this Batman is so much more ruthless, and that final scene with Jim Gordon. WOW! I don't want to ruin it for anyone. Pick it up, check it out! Find out who this version of The Joker is.

I almost didn't want to give Flashpoint #3 my highest ranking, only because the ending of this book got me that much more excited. I'm not sure if I'll find a better issue this week. It impressed me that much. About my only complaint would be how these various characters take on the names of original DC characters. How does Selina Kyle really take the name Oracle? How does this new Joker even come up with that name?? It's a stretch to think a change in circumstances leads to the same characters being reborn in different alternate realities. :woot:

Flashpoint: Abin Sur - The Green Lantern #2

In this issue, we learn how Abin Sur doesn't give Hal Jordan his ring; and, it picks up right where last week's issue of Flashpoint: Hal Jordan left off. This issue was better than the first; but, still not comparable to other Flashpoint titles. I did like the ending, with Sinestro revealing how this reality should not exist; and, then he cuts off Abin Sur's hand. :yay:
 
I'm regretting my decision now. While doing my cuts to get my spending down (5 weeks in a row under budget thank you very much) I decided to cut Flashpoint stuff in favor of Fear Itself since I'm more of a Marvel guy. I sold the first two issues of Flashpoint and my Batman and Abin Sur tie-in issues to Half Priced books... but now I wish I'd have gone the other way.

Flashpoint really has been better and Fear Itself is frustrating me so badly with every issue or tie-in (the few I'm reading anyhow). This is by far the worst event Marvel's done since their major return with House of M. My Half Priced Books always has event issues there for cheap, I could get caught up on these there in time for nothing. I'm hoping they put my Flashpoint stuff out soon so I can buy it back.

I may continue anyhow on Flashpoint and Batman's mini and just rebuy the issues I sold later. I'm about done with buying Fear Itself. I'll buy the X-Men tie-ins and the last issue of Iron Man 2.0 and I might call Fear Itself done. We'll see.
 
Yea I have enjoyed Flashpoint alot more. I also think fear itself is a decent story. I liked how Tony Stark started drinking. I am excited to see were they go from here.
 
From the younger, smarter, hipper Bought/Thought thread....

So I've been home the past 2 days with potential pink eye (somewhat cloudy due to an infected stye in the same eye) and I've been bored. So I decided to take advantage of the time and I read the whole "The Return of Bruce Wayne" thing to see if it reads better in one sitting, along with the Batman & Robin issues that led into and followed it. It was a lot of reading but I'd call it a success. I understood about 3 more panels this time.

Anyhow, on to reviews:

Moon Knight #3 - So Moon Knights building a supporting cast and I'm somewhat intrigued. The most boring is his assistant but Echo's becoming regular and he has an ex-shield guy working with him now, doing the tech thing. I actually really enjoy that guy.

And I was glad to see that the cover was misleading. Bullseye does not come back, this was Moon Knight dressing up as Bullseye to test the ex-shield guy to know if he can trust him not to crack under pressure, so that's cool.

Other than that though not much happens. It's kind of a transition/builder issue that could probably have been reduced but oh well. If you're still reading Bendis by this point you've probably grown used to that. Decent issue though.

Fear Itself #4 - Four issues in, over half way, and all the threats are still 2-dementional. Sin is the best of the bunch and that's only really due to the first issue and the Prologue. Nothing that great has happened since.

Oh, and Steve's unceremoniously back in the suit without much focus on his mourning for Bucky, just a panel or so. Failed oppertunity there.

So this issue gets the same review as the past ones, a bland "Who cares."

Uncanny X-Men #540 - Maybe it's Land's art or that it's a tie-in to Fear Itself but this issue bored me to tears. Gillen's had a good run so far and the X-Men in general have been good lately... it kinda came to a halt right here and I'm going to assume it's staying here until the end of this arc.

Juggernaut's possessed by his hammer and is on his way to San Fran, causing ruckus and whatnot. Cyclops argues a bit with San Fran's mayor over how people look at them as the problem. Namor tries to seduce Emma, who is holding strong to Scott... barely. Magik is still imprisoned due to events in New Mutants and Colossus doesn't like it.

Eh, bleh issue not helped by Land's art. I guess we'll see how it plays out now that the intro issue is finished.

X-23 #12 - Okay issue but nothing fantastic. I like the depiction of the four characters involved (X-23, Jubilee, Wolverine, and Gambit) and I like that in the end Wolverine makes a poke at never expecting to see Gambit turning into a mother hen. I think that's actually good character development for Gambit to be honest. One of my favorite aspects of Wolverine is that he's willing to step into the father role when needed, but when he failed Laura here's Gambit stepping up for her. I like that.

Other than the character relationships though, the plot was a little week. I'm hoping next issue with the Future Foundation will be better.

X-Men #14 - While I am definately enjoying this arc, it's starting to drag on. It's only been three issues but three issues of just fighting with some random forgotten flashbacks get old. Fortunately, Yost knows how to not drag out too much and the arc ends next issue.

But for what it was the issue was entertaining. It's nice to see characters like Toad and Surge actually have things to do. Not a big fan of messing with history again but at least they aren't changing history, just adding to it. That I can deal with.

I'm eager for the ending of this storyline. I'm curious how it all ends.

Batman & Robin #25 - I liked this cover until I realized Jason's face was viewable. That just messed up the whole thing for me. This artist needs to work on his anatomy!

As for the story, this wraps up the 3 part Red Hood storyline and I thought it was pretty good. It's not often we see Jason actually working alongside the heroes and in the end he gets away with Scarlet in tow. They're an official duo now but I'm curious if that's going to be lost in the DCnU. We'll find out I guess.

Jason's book (with Arsenal and Starfire) is one of my "on the fence" books during the relaunch but I do like Jason and Arsenal a lot. I figure I'll skim the first issue to decide if I want to buy it but we'll see. I'd like to see Scarlet in that book as well but I doubt it'll happen.



Best and Worst of the Week

Best: Batman & Robin #25 - I'll say it though, this was a weak best of the week. It was good but it only really won because it was up against other mediocre books. I thought about putting X-Men here but it honestly didn't wow me like previous issues have so I picked B&R.

Worst: Fear Itself #4 - As always.
 
Batman: Knight of vengeance #2 My god was this a great comic. This issue introduced us to the flashpoint Selina Kyle and reveals the identity of the Flashpoint Joker, and what a reveal it is! I could kind of see this coming but the entire build up to it was just soo tense. Azzarello and Risso really nailed the bleak tone of Thomas Wayne's flashpoint world, giving us a great personal tale that has us on the edge of our seats the whole time. can't wait till the next issue!

Red Skull: Incarnate # 1 So here it is, Greg Pak's follow up to his amazing MAGNETO TESTAMENT, this time focusing on the other half of the Nazi uprising, with the young Johann Schmidt. First of all, one has to remeber that this is a very different type of story, that is yes, a companion peice to his Magneto story, but from the point of view of a boy who will grow up to become the most evil man on (Marvel) Earth. Pak and artist Mirko Colak do an amazing job, capturing the post ww1 Berlin setting, every little detail seems painstakingly researched for historical accuracy. ultimately this issue puts the reader in the shoes of Johann Schmidt and even does what I had previously thought impossible: makes us sympathise with him. one of this years best.
 
Fear Itself: Youth In Revolt #3

While this mini hasn't exactly been spectacular, it has kept me entertained; and, I'm enjoying it a lot more than the main Fear Itself title. In this issue, a hero makes a (deadly?) sacrifice, while Juggernaut continues his reign of destruction and terror, this time in Las Vegas. :yay:

Red Skull: Incarnate #1

Wow! Another total surprise for the week, and much better than anything Pak has been doing in Incredible Hulks. What makes Magneto a great villian is that he's got a great backstory that makes us sympathetic to his plight. This first issue takes us back to the Red Skull's youth, when he was an orphan in Germany. I won't say readers will get the same kind of sympathy that they'd feel for Magneto; but, it provides a rich backstory into his demented character. (Although, I do have to say the puppy angle has been done before.) I look forward to the next chapter. :yay::yay:

Hundred Penny Press Presents: Transformers Classics #1

A reprint of Marvel's classic series under the IDW 1.00 comic format. It's neat to reread these old stories from the 80's, back when Marvel would pay for such great franchises, like Micronauts, G.I. Joe, and Rom. I loved them all; and, what really stands out is how much dialogue and narration used to be in comics. A comic reader today could easily read 3 of today's comics by the time it takes you to finish this first issue. Amazing!

It's a great price, and with the new movie, a nice tie-in. :yay:

Daily Bugle: Spider Island promo

Hope everyone got their free promo at their comic shop. It would have been nicer if we could have got a prelude that wasn't going to appear in ASM; but, Marvel does provide a nice preview from ASM #666 and #667. (I liked the opening to 667, where it seems like Carly finds out about Peter's powers; but, a shift in the camera shows us what's really up.) We also get previews of the upcoming tie-ins and interviews with some of the people involved. A nice promo. Got to give a :yay: just for it being free.

Captain America & Thor: Avengers! One-Shot

Just like the other promotional comics we've seen for these two characters that have led up to their movies (or upcoming movie). Readers get two full-length done-in-one stories from each character (hence, the high $4.99 price tag). Van Lente does his usual adequate job that won't exactly have you jumping up and down, but at least nodding your head that they were entertaining enough. Basically, once you bag the comic, you'll probably quickly forget it by next month.

A mild :yay:.

Heroes For Hire #9

A Fear Itself tie-in; but, really, it's just more of the same stuff we've seen before with this title. Misty and Paladin gather a group of heroes to battle the current enemy (this time, Thing With A Hammer); and The Shroud, Gargoyle and Elektra show up to assist. A new villian (or is it a hero) makes it's debut, looking very much like a cross between Ghost Rider and Venom. Not bad. The art takes some getting used to. :yay:

Vengeance #1

Seriously, I have no clue what I thought about this first issue. I'm awaiting some other reviews (hopefully). I guess it's Rick Jones old team, the Teen Brigade; but, this is like the 9th or 10th version since the original. Now, they get powers. Not bad, and it has me interested; but, I cannot tell how good or bad it will be. Maybe my lack of jumping on board is that we're being given another new group of young heroes; and, that's being done to death lately.

For now, just a solid :yay:, and I do want to see what happens next. The big downside would be that Marvel is charging $3.99, thus making sure a good portion of those with a budget will ignore it.
 
So what's some details on Vengeance? I've been curious but all I know is that some of the Young Masters are in it, and Stacey X I think, though she's supposed to be dead.

My wife picked up my comics for me this week so I didn't get a chance to skim it like I was hoping and I wasn't going to buy it blind for $4.
 
First week of July is in the books, now let's get to the books! Spoilers ahead.

FYI, the $3.99 price on VENGEANCE #1 proved to be too much. I had mulled buying it.

DREAD'S BOUGHT/THOUGHT for 7/6/11:

BATMAN BEYOND #7: As DC Comics gears itself towards their FLASHPOINT event for the summer and their relaunch of their entire line in August and September, this is one comic that seems to be caught in the midst of the storm. While the only DC comic that is tying into FLASHPOINT is BOOSTER GOLD, it's fate in the "New 52" is unknown. DC brass claim that the series will continue, and plans have been made to produce spin-off material - a SUPERMAN BEYOND one shot and a comic based on JUSTICE LEAGUE UNLIMITED from the same timeline. However, DC's editorial strategy can sometimes take a 180 turn on a dime, especially if material ends up late. Thus, these are interesting times for this series, loosely based on the TV series from Kid's WB that ran from 1999-2001 (and aired in syndication on CARTOON NETWORK for a few years afterward). This sees the conclusion of the latest three issue storyline which follows very strongly from TV material. The title is written by Adam Beechen and drawn by regular artist Ryan Benjamin, with inker John Stanisci and colorist David Baron alongside.

In the animated series, the arch nemesis of the new Batman of the mid 21st century (teenager Terry McGinnis) is Blight - a ruthless tycoon who had Terry's father murdered and who also had taken hold of the aged Bruce Wayne's company. He was transformed into a radioactive metahuman and had become increasingly more dangerous and deranged as his power increased. Seemingly buried alive and left for dead at the finale of "BATMAN BEYOND" season 1, he never returned to the show. In honesty, the loss of the antagonist's main nemesis caused the show to lose some focus, as some episodes were hit-or-miss afterward. In a three issue arc that began back in issue five, Blight has returned from his watery grave in a new containment suit, and more unstable than ever. He has attempted to settle some old scores, such as messing with Wayne's company, arranging for his louse of a son to be killed, and seeking to take Batman out once and for all. This issue has their final showdown, and that scene on the cover actually occurs within!

While the six issue mini series that launched this series dipped more into DC's official canon almost as much as the canon of the TV show, this arc has felt very much like episodes that could have existed for a fourth season of the cartoon (aside for some PG level swears like "damn" that never could have appeared in a Y7 cartoon). It is also a story that manages to work in a little bit of social commentary about economic woes without being preachy about it. The battle between Batman and Blight is quite satisfying, as Terry shows that he's certainly more than a kid in a hi-tech costume. These shorter arcs also suit the title well; no storyline has been more than three or four issues, with one-shot tales being common. The next issue looks to be a one-shot tale featuring Inque (another of the top villains from the show), with guest art by Chris Batista. While Benjamin's artwork is fine, BATMAN BEYOND remains one of few titles in which the fill-in art has actually been stronger than the regular art. There is also more to this finale than Blight, as subplots involving Dana Tan's ex-con brother as well as Maxine Gibson's run-in's with cyber-terrorists move onward. With DC's strategies towards female characters and readers being questionable, it is good to see that Terry's supporting characters can get play even without Terry or Batman needing to be within the same scene.

In addition, DC has continued to shove preview comics into their regular titles. This time, fans get the third of four issues in which the Justice League team up with famous athletes in a comic series produced exclusively to promote SUBWAY sandwiches. In this issue - Olympic athletes Michael Phelps (swimmer and eating machine), gymnast Nastia Liukin and ice skater Apolo Ohno (which is an awesome name) get to help Batman and Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) defeat Mr. Freeze and Solomon Grundy. Mike S. Miler writes and draws this six page tale, and it is sound ridiculous, that is only because it is. Earlier segments have included appearances by football stars. Thus, this is a union of not only athletes and superheroes, but athletes and superheroes PROMOTING A FAST FOOD JOINT. If it sounds ridiculous, that is only because it is. However, it reads in the "it's so terrible, it's awesome" manner. Whether it is the image of Michael Phelps diving into a pool to save a child in a desperate imitation of Aquaman or the points where the story grinds to a halt as a character gushes about a sandwich, it is a hilarious back up strip for all the wrong reasons.

While there were a lot of FEAR ITSELF and FLASHPOINT books out this week, it turns out this plucky series that isn't a part of any event has risen to the top, at least for a week. Fans of the cartoon series should be eating this up, and if DC were wise, they would promote trades of it (or digital copies) with those DVD box sets of the TV show (or in commercials aired in any syndication). This may be one title that will escape "The New 52" untouched, which is excellent because it has often been a beacon of quality across DC's line.

FEAR ITSELF #4: This is the middle point of this seven chapter, and Matt Fraction starts to lurch more towards having more things happen to move the plot. The problem is it still is a plot that boils down to "and then an evil Norse god possessed people with magic hammers and sent them to smash things", which might have been fun for a four issue story, stretched in a six issue story and way over-long for seven issues. The recap page makes sure to restate that James "Bucky" Barnes was killed in the last issue - many fans online were confused. Thor has been allowed to go back to earth by Odin to make a desperate attempt to beat the ancient "Serpent" without Odin having to resort to destroying the earth. The story makes a big deal of Thor, Iron Man, and Steve Rogers as Captain America uniting during a crisis. This is indeed something rare and awesome - had that not been a major beat in SIEGE, which was Marvel's major event LAST year. Token mention is made to crossover tie-in's across the line, and quite a many of them will be sold subsequently. Aside for looking stoic in a room for a few panels, Rogers doesn't say much about Bucky's death - that is left to Black Widow, performing the role of grieving girlfriend, which was a bit weak. You'd think this would be a major thing, since Bucky's LAST death only upset Cap for about 45 years. This issue gets around to hinting at why the main villain is called "The Serpent" - he is essentially supposed to be the serpent that trigger the apocalypse in North mythology, that Thor is destined to die fighting. The problem is this character already exists in Marvel, and has specifically been called the Midguard Serpent. Is "The Serpent" the same person as the Midguard Serpent? It is unknown, and one wonders if Fraction is even aware of the prior serpent. It doesn't help that "The Serpent" looks nothing like an actual serpent - he is an aged Norse man with a magic cane, who not becomes a more fit standard warrior with a large scythe. Meanwhile, Iron Man is forced to humiliate himself - resort to drinking again - to summon Odin for assistance via a sacrifice (a moment that even Mark Millar might consider in poor taste). Fraction's dilemma is he seeks to merge more of the actual Norse mythology into Thor's back story, seeming to neglect the fact that Marvel has gone in different directions. Odin may be a vicious a-hole in the actual myths, but he had more nuance in the comics for merely the last forty years. There is a bit of action in this issue, which gives artist Stuart Immonen (and colorist Laura Martin) a lot to do. Thor's connection to Broxton, Oklahoma, as established in 2007 by J. Michael Straczynski is seemingly ended in a two page sequence. THAT'LL show fans who supported a successful relaunch!

While the artwork is lovely, and surely there are worse comics out there, this is still a very simple and tedious serious that is longer than it should be and more serious than it should be. Many of Marvel's "events" are stories set around one character or franchise that are stretched so thin to cover an entire line of comics that you can see the marks from it - this stress of a blunt THOR story (the second in a row) is no exception. Given how much Marvel has "spammed" Avengers material the last couple of years, it will likely reach critical mass next year as "THE AVENGERS" film is on the horizon. This is a WRESTLEMANIA plot that believes itself to be high drama, and is staged in not one pay-per-view but in a seven month odyssey. Some of the tie-in's in other titles, by other writers, have been better, but that doesn't say much for Marvel's current number one selling story.

I rag on Bendis a lot, but SIEGE was leagues better than this, hands down; and even THAT was a mediocre story.

FEAR ITSELF: YOUTH IN REVOLT #3: Marvel editorial promised us that James "Bucky" Barnes would not be the only hero to die during their annual crossover even, and this issue proves that was no lie. This series is essentially a reunion of AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE as written by Sean McKeever and drawn by Mike Norton (with colors by Veronica Gandini), which allows the two to reunite on the character of Gravity, who they made in 2005. This is a FEAR ITSELF tie-in, as are many of Marvel's comics this week/month, which means one member of "The Worthy" will appear to smack some characters with his evil magic hammer. In this issue, it is the Juggernaut, who seems to appear in quite a few crossover tie-in issues (such as this week's THUNDERBOLTS #160 or last month's FEAR ITSELF: THE HOME FRONT #3). To a degree this presents a problem as in this issue, he threatens Las Vegas, Nevada and in other comics he is closer to the Midwest or east coast. He must run fast (which this issue does note). In this issue, Vegas's official superhero team, the Heavy Hitters - which consist of young heroes like Hardball, Komodo, Nonstop, and Telemetry alongside ex-New Warriors Rage and Debrii - are tasked with stopping the unstoppable. Hardball is the character that gets the most focus in this issue, which he benefits from since he is a character who has been tarnished during his run on A:TI. At first a likeable hero, he eventually devolved into a manipulated traitor, and has sought to bounce back. Thus, he is a hero who has done bad things for good reasons (attempting to save his crippled brother), although he has often chosen the worst choice of any situation he was in. Whether this issue proves to be another case of that, it does present a thrilling narrative of some small time heroes trying to take on a Juggernaut who is more powerful and ruthless than ever before. Meanwhile, Prodigy has to deal with some federal agents trying to undermine the authority that Steve Rogers gave him to run this new Initiative, and Cloud 9 and Thor-Girl find themselves as unlikely fugitive heroes amidst the chaos - which hobbles their attempts to do good. I did like the detail in which the Liberteens arrive to fight the two because they're considered "fugitives", but such a battle is performed for pure legal obligation and at least a few of them have no misconceptions about the heroism of their targets. If only CIVIL WAR had more of that and less of long time allied heroes hating each other for no damn reason.

AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE was a great title in which many new characters as well as neglected B, C, and D-List characters could appear and be handled well, and McKeever picks up the ball left behind by Christos Gage and Dan Slott well here. Fans of such characters should be supporting this mini series, which at least is reasonably priced at $2.99. Norton's artwork is as clean, crisp, and exciting as ever - he has often been an underappreciated artist, since a bulk of his career has been on MARVEL ADVENTURES comics. The next issue will focus more on Gravity, which should likely strike more emotional chords than this one did.

HEROES FOR HIRE #9: This low selling ongoing series, which ma be canceled at any moment now, starts it's obligatory crossover with Marvel's annual event. While Misty Knight and Paladin remain the C-List Marvel heroes who comprise as the regular characters of this series, this series relies on having a different group of guest stars appear in each particular story or issue. In an odd way, this is akin to what MARVEL TEAM-UP often was without Spider-Man; and even he appeared in a third of this series' issues thus far. Dan Abnett and Andy Lanning, best known for cosmic comics, continue to write terrific material here in the darker corners of "urban superheroics". This issues picks up to a slight degree from the last issue, although in many ways it starts up without too many subplots. Much as with most FEAR ITSELF crossovers happen to include one of "The Worthy" with a magic hammer smashing things - this issue focuses on the Thing in Yancy Street. The dilemma is this issue seems to tie in very well with FEAR ITSELF #3, and this week had the fourth issue debut. At any rate, Misty Knight is trying to rally as many "street" heroes to try to deal with both the crisis on Yancy Street as well as the smashed super-prison, the Raft, as she can. The best she can do is the assassin Elektra (who is paid more to AVOID killing), along with former DEFENDER Gargoyle and little known vigilante Shroud. Kyle Hotz is the fill-in artist for this issue, who has united with Abnett and Lanning with some of their space comics (circa ANNIHILATION CONQUEST), and his pencils are a bit different from what one can rely from the regular artist Brad Walker. They are still solid, especially as inked by Bob Almond and colored by steady colorist Jay David Ramos. The issue does introduce some minor villains, including a new baddie called "Firefight" who bares no resemblance to at least two other villains who share that name, as well as build up the Purple Man as the mastermind of the series thus far.

While a 12th issue has been solicited, sales have fallen below Marvel's usual cancellation range as of May's issue seven; if sales do not rebound for FEAR ITSELF, which they may not, that could be it for this title. As AVENGING SPIDER-MAN is set to bring back the actual MARVEL TEAM-UP under another name (with the old premise of Spidey teaming up with another hero), this could be the end of this quirky series. In hindsight, while a rotating cast is an interesting premise, a steadier one that perhaps included some more popular characters than Paladin and Misty Knight may have helped. However, for those who like seeing smaller characters written well - such as YOUTH IN REVOLT fans - this is more solid material.

SPIDER-GIRL #8: This is the final issue of one of Marvel's latest attempts to launch a spin-off to AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, launched not long after the last volume of WEB OF SPIDER-MAN tanked. While VENOM is holding steady, the audience did not support this entertaining series by Paul Tobin about one of Marvel's newest heroines. While in theory the regular artist in Clayton Henry, he has not drawn an entire issue by himself since the debut issue - and skipped about half the series entirely. Roughly half the issue was drawn by Sergio Cariello, who has often helped Henry wrap up issues of this, alongside colors by Chris Sotomayor. The prior issue of this series shipped in May, and this issue sees the subplot revolving the evil organization RAVEN get wrapped up a bit faster than Tobin probably intended. This has led to two issues of Spider-Girl (and Spider-Man, and in this issue the Red Hulk) smashing into laboratories and/or abandoned warehouses and punching various minions. Much like with VENGEANCE OF THE MOON KNIGHT, while this may be technically the final issue of this ongoing series, the regular writer will be given a three issue mini series that ties into a crossover in which he is expected to basically continue as if the series had merely continued - much as Gregg Hurwitz did with SHADOWLAND: MOON KNIGHT #1-3. Thus, Tobin and Spider-Girl will return in SPIDER-ISLAND: THE AMAZING SPIDER-GIRL #1-3. The subplot for that is a major plot point in this issue, as Anya suddenly regains spider-powers at a plot convenient moment - but not the same powers as she had before. Given that this actually as something to do with AMAZING SPIDER-MAN's subplot of "INFESTED: THE ROAD TO SPIDER-ISLAND", Marvel probably should have slapped on the cover - they may have sold an extra dozen copies of this that way. At any rate, Tobin still manages to wrap things up in a satisfying way. It is Spider-Girl's moxie and wits, not any powers or gadgets, that make her a heroine, and she is a rare heroine that refuses to be a raging loner. She is also perhaps one of the only young heroes that Spider-Man has actually taken the time to attempt to mentor - he abandoned Spider-Kid and Frog-Man in the 80's when they insisted on tagging along him in adventures. In fairness, they were both annoying and incompetent.

Many things probably contributed to this series not catching on - altering ARANA to a franchise that was once the title of a series set in another continuity, shoe-horning in the Fantastic Four and Red Hulk into what was an ASM spin off, the hesitation of a mostly male medium to support female heroes, and inconsistent artwork - but it is still a shame to lose it. This issue is fun and action packed, and at least Tobin will have a last hurrah in the near future.
 
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THUNDERBOLTS #160: One would have thought that if Marvel wanted to sell an extra-sized, $4.99 issue of this long running title, they’d have chosen this issue, which is the latest in a long string of high round numbers. Instead, Marvel chose to do so with issue #159. This issue is another segment of the title’s crossover with FEAR ITSELF, as written by longtime writer Jeff Parker and frequent fill-in artist Declan Shalvey, with colors by Frank Martin. This is technically the fourth crossover that Jeff Parker’s run on this title has been involved in, after DARK REIGN, SIEGE, and SHADOWLAND – all in under two full years. As the cover notes, this issue has the Juggernaut, who is one of “The Worthy” – a possessed and enhanced minion of destruction of the main villain of FEAR ITSELF, “the Serpent” – fighting against the team. Ideally, this is the perfect book to showcase Juggernaut’s attack in; he had been a regular member of Parker’s team of cons for about a year and a half. Unfortunately, Juggernaut as a Worthy has been featured in so many other tie-in comics – such as FEAR ITSELF: HOME FRONT #3, FEAR ITSELF: YOUTH IN REVOLT #3 and UNCANNY X-MEN – that the impact of this is lessoned. To top it off, the Man-Thing seems to quickly vanish from the cast as well; perhaps to appear in the absolutely uninspiring FEAR ITSELF: FEARSOME FOUR. However, Parker has assembled a cast of “beta team” Thunderbolts to fill this gap, and this resulting issue is better than it could have been.

With the Raft prison destroyed by Juggernaut’s empowerment, the Thunderbolts and staff that were left (such as warden John Walker) are struggling to save those who are left as well as make attempts to stem escapes. The official head of the program, Luke Cage, is busy with Avengers business around the world during the crisis. Thus, the “senior” reformed Thunderbolts such as Fixer, Mach-V and Songbird must rally what is left of their “alpha” squad (Moonstone, Ghost, and Satana) as well as their “beta” team (Shocker, Boomerang, Mr. Hyde, Troll, and Centurius) to respond to the crisis. While most of the “alpha” squad are loyal (or make appearances to be, like Moonstone), and the Asgardian Troll is devoted to Songbird, the rest of the “beta” team are planning to escape at the best time. Solicitations for SPIDER-ISLAND later in the summer confirm that the Shocker is at least successful in that. These two different squads of T-Bolts actually creates a bit of tension in the overall book, even if it means that longer term characters like Moonstone and Ghost have begun to take more of a back seat. At any rate, Songbird decides to lead the Thunderbolts against Juggernaut, hoping that a few of them can get through to Cain Marko as he had been comrades of theirs recently. Satana assists in this via a magical spell that literally “merges” the group with Marko’s soul to try to free him. As with many of the best laid plans, though, things hardly go swimmingly.

Shalvey is strong artist; he has remained a very solid alternative to Kev Walker every few issues. He gets a lot of things to draw in this issue, from Nazi robots to a mad Man-Thing to a battle with Juggernaut in the open field. There is an extended sequence in which the Thunderbolts are within Juggernaut and the entire sequence is drawn akin to ancient cave-markings, which looks great. The only caveat is that each character is represented by a symbol and it can be difficult to figure out which character is talking for a few pages.

While “the Worthy” have been utilized in a similar manner as Hulk & the Warbound were used in WORLD WAR HULK – they appear to pummel the cast of a regular title in a battle that is pointless because they cannot lose outside “main” material written by the writer of said event – this is the title in which fighting the Juggernaut should have some weight in terms of character and plot. To a degree that is true with UNCANNY X-MEN, even though he hasn’t been involved in an X-Book in years. However, for those who are hoping for an appearance by the Juggernaut as “a Worthy” in a title in which he had been written for over a year and thus there is real emotional conflict. Thus, even if the Thunderbolts are not allowed to beat the Juggernaut here – and they likely won’t – this story can still have more weight than another “pointless” battle.

While it is a FEAR ITSELF issue, Parker has managed to maintain enough of his general subplots that a long term reader is not disappointed. However, stronger material may come once it is over.
 
So who died in Youth In Revolt?

What's wrong with you people? You used to spoil things! Now I have to ask to be spoiled in the spoiler thread!!!
 
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I usually enjoy the shoutouts to lesser-known places in comics. Especially places near and dear to my heart (like Salmon Arm, BC in Fear Itself) but would it really kill them to do just a little bit of research. They've got Atlanteans and Attuma in the depths of Shuswap Lake that is a good 450 kms from the coast. Unless they swam up river to spawn, what the hell are they doing in a freshwater lake in the BC interior?

Anyways...
 
So who died in Youth In Revolt?

What's wrong with you people? You used to spoil things! Now I have to ask to be spoiled in the spoiler thread!!!

Hardball. He was unable to "bounce" Juggernaut out of Las Vegas in the same way that Speedball was able to divert Juggernaut in FI:THF #3. Thus, he basically sacrificed his life to use all of his power to blast Juggernaut out of Vegas. Doing so collapsed the underground tunnels upon himself. The last page seems to imply that Hardball is dead - at least as much as FEAR ITSELF #3 implied Bucky was dead, if not more so. :p

I can't say it was a death I was opposed to. Hardball had devolved into a jerk-bag character who often made the wrong choices. While he basically stumbled into being a hero by accident, his choice to side with HYDRA instead of the Avengers, even when Komodo had perfectly covered for his earlier betrayal for them, was rather foolish. Since then, under Gage's run on A:TI, he sought to come back from that horizon and make up for it, but he still was an impulsive hot-head with gray morals. He's a new character, but I don't think he's as memorable or had as much potential as Komodo, Butterball or Cloud 9. At least he went out a hero. Although Komodo will likely feel terrible now. She never forgave him for his betrayals, behind making out with him during the "Super Hero Prom".

I'd like to point out that thus far, it is the young who have paid the price in FEAR ITSELF. Sure, Bucky was really old technically, but he was the younger and newer Cap compared to Steve Rogers. And Hardball was a new, young character. Same as the only fatality in SECRET INVASION was a younger character. If I was a young superhero in Marvel, I would refuse to engage in an event unless I had a death wish.

I loved that bit in AVENGERS ACADEMY when Hazmat and some of the other kids are genre savvy and KNOW that Korvac will NEVER kill the big name Avengers like Thor or Wolverine - it will be the ethnic, young, no-names like them who get slaughtered and stay that way. "I feel like the black guy in a disaster movie." It made perfect sense for them to feel that way because it is 100% true.
 
Didn't get my comics today as I didn't feel like it would be worth driving up for so few books.

But I did hit an antique store I've wanted to go to for years and picked up:

The zero issues and first issues of
X-O Manowar
Shadowman
Bloodshot
and Ninjak

And issue #24 of Miracleman for $1.50 :awesome:
 
^^^

That's a great find for an awsome price... had a low print run, so the book generally sells between $30 & $50... depending on where you shop. :up:

:yay:
 
Same as the only fatality in SECRET INVASION was a younger character.

Who are you referring to? Only fatality that's coming to mind this early in the morning right now is The Wasp, and I wouldn't really call her a "young" character.
 
Oh yeah... him too. That still sucks :( (and it's Crusader... Freedom Ring died in Marvel Team-Up)
 
Who are you referring to? Only fatality that's coming to mind this early in the morning right now is The Wasp, and I wouldn't really call her a "young" character.

Is it terrible that I forgot that Wasp died in SECRET INVASION for a second? It was such a useless death that I blocked it out. It felt needlessly tacked on to give a generic, poorly written story weight. Same as Bucky's latest demise, only at the end of the narrative instead of in Act 2.

But, you're right; she isn't a "young" character, as she's been around since the 60's (and was the only female founding Avenger).

But, yes, by "younger" characters I meant the 616 version of Geldoff and Crusader. By now young or lesser tier heroes should be aware they are canon fodder for every crisis, and either react or decline accordingly. You can still get a good story out of it - "The Ballad Of Johnny Guitar" in AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE is a good example. McKeever tried to accomplish something similar with Hardball this week, but it wasn't the same. Props go to Gage for accomplishing better in half the pages.

Like, if there is a big event and Captain America is giving a speech to the Young Avengers and Young Allies about his usual "rah rah rah freedom bravery rah rah", they should be aware that absolutely none of the legendary heroes will fall. Wolverine could fight Galactus himself and survive - in fact, he has. It'll be those smaller or younger heroes who get mowed down so the bigger Avengers can look awesome. And then after the crisis, their sacrifice won't be appreciated. The Young Avengers had been giving contradictory statements by the elder Avengers since they founded, and they STILL rallied to their side for SIEGE. Did it help? No. The Avengers were still not giving the benefit of the doubt in CHILDREN'S CRUSADE. Wolverine wanting to murder Wiccan in cold blood, and enjoy it, was treated with no more negativity than if he'd ate the last cupcake in the Avengers' fridge. Hell, Prodigy may have used his position going over classified records to learn that Wolverine was the cause of his pal Hornet's death, and that reaction alone could be interesting. If I was a young hero, Wolverine would represent all that is wrong with how adult heroes run things. He's violent, has unprotected sex with endless women and has even committed statutory rape if the fling with Squirrel Girl was canon. He gets used as a weapon against other heroes at least as often as the Hulk does, if not more so. Yet not only is he never arrested for his century of murders, he is paraded on the Avengers. The same Captain America that wags a finger at Night-Thrasher if he kicks a mugger when he's down merrily shakes hands with Logan and considers him the best of them. That's hypocrisy, plain and simple.

It wasn't always like that, of course. But it has become like that around Marvel since 2004, when they decided Wolverine's real life popularity should translate into the fictional universe - same as the "SHREK" sequels did for the title character, or "SPIDER-MAN 3" did for it's hero. Did these really help the plot much? Or just diminish what made said character stand out in the first place, while making other characters look fickle or contradictory?
 
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Just flipped through the latest Marvel Vault book after reading the intro (I'll get to the actual story itself later). Visually, I gotta say, I think it would've looked much better in the 80s. The coloring was flat and lifeless, and the inking just a bit too simple. Nothing about the story really pops. At least the other vault stories had something going for them visually (although I hated the art in Strange's, and whenever it showed up in the late 90s).

On the flip side, finally read the second to last issue of Outsiders. Gotta say, Giffen does a pretty good job of aping Kirby. From the old-school angles to the basic character designs, you could almost swear the ghost of Kirby drew the books. Although while aping to such an accurate degree is commendable in its own right, there's something to be said for having your own style and leaving that for vanity projects, like a "lost" 1960s story.
 
Just finished reading Tobin and Coover's Gingerbread Girl. Fantatic, little trade from Top Cow, and my only complaint is that it left me wanting more. If you want to know what it's about, just go to either Paul Tobin or Colleen Coover's webpage. They offered it online for free through weekly installments; but, I was waiting for the whole collection to come out. These are two of my favorite people who I've met a few times at the Emerald City Comicon; and, they often work together on stuff. Huge :woot:!
 
Is it terrible that I forgot that Wasp died in SECRET INVASION for a second? It was such a useless death that I blocked it out. It felt needlessly tacked on to give a generic, poorly written story weight. Same as Bucky's latest demise, only at the end of the narrative instead of in Act 2.

But, you're right; she isn't a "young" character, as she's been around since the 60's (and was the only female founding Avenger).

But, yes, by "younger" characters I meant the 616 version of Geldoff and Crusader. By now young or lesser tier heroes should be aware they are canon fodder for every crisis, and either react or decline accordingly. You can still get a good story out of it - "The Ballad Of Johnny Guitar" in AVENGERS: THE INITIATIVE is a good example. McKeever tried to accomplish something similar with Hardball this week, but it wasn't the same. Props go to Gage for accomplishing better in half the pages.

Like, if there is a big event and Captain America is giving a speech to the Young Avengers and Young Allies about his usual "rah rah rah freedom bravery rah rah", they should be aware that absolutely none of the legendary heroes will fall. Wolverine could fight Galactus himself and survive - in fact, he has. It'll be those smaller or younger heroes who get mowed down so the bigger Avengers can look awesome. And then after the crisis, their sacrifice won't be appreciated. The Young Avengers had been giving contradictory statements by the elder Avengers since they founded, and they STILL rallied to their side for SIEGE. Did it help? No. The Avengers were still not giving the benefit of the doubt in CHILDREN'S CRUSADE. Wolverine wanting to murder Wiccan in cold blood, and enjoy it, was treated with no more negativity than if he'd ate the last cupcake in the Avengers' fridge. Hell, Prodigy may have used his position going over classified records to learn that Wolverine was the cause of his pal Hornet's death, and that reaction alone could be interesting. If I was a young hero, Wolverine would represent all that is wrong with how adult heroes run things. He's violent, has unprotected sex with endless women and has even committed statutory rape if the fling with Squirrel Girl was canon. He gets used as a weapon against other heroes at least as often as the Hulk does, if not more so. Yet not only is he never arrested for his century of murders, he is paraded on the Avengers. The same Captain America that wags a finger at Night-Thrasher if he kicks a mugger when he's down merrily shakes hands with Logan and considers him the best of them. That's hypocrisy, plain and simple.

It wasn't always like that, of course. But it has become like that around Marvel since 2004, when they decided Wolverine's real life popularity should translate into the fictional universe - same as the "SHREK" sequels did for the title character, or "SPIDER-MAN 3" did for it's hero. Did these really help the plot much? Or just diminish what made said character stand out in the first place, while making other characters look fickle or contradictory?




^^^ Some of that post started reminding me of Ennis's "The Boys"^^^
 
Just finished reading Tobin and Coover's Gingerbread Girl. Fantatic, little trade from Top Cow, and my only complaint is that it left me wanting more. If you want to know what it's about, just go to either Paul Tobin or Colleen Coover's webpage. They offered it online for free through weekly installments; but, I was waiting for the whole collection to come out. These are two of my favorite people who I've met a few times at the Emerald City Comicon; and, they often work together on stuff. Huge :woot:!

I think the publisher is Top Shelf, actually.

I planned to pick that up, but some unexpected doctor bills made me have to trim my budget down some. I really like her art and have enjoyed a lot of Tobin's work in the past. I don't know, as silly as it sounds, it's just weird seeing her doing an all ages thing. I know she has in the past, but that girly porno she did just always sticks out in my mind whenever I see anything from her.
 
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