Breaking News: Osama Bin Laden Is Dead! - Part 3

[roach]

CNN just confirmed the pics

 

[roach]

I just think it's kinda disturbing. A child's toy in all that mess. And yes, I wanted to tap on the idea that maybe there wasn't so much fighting. I of course understand that they would remove the guns but why not throw around these points? It doesn't hurt to question the events that took place until we get some hard data on what actually happened. Right?

you will be waiting for a long time to get hard facts on a DEVGRU mission
but you are questioning the facts based on what???
Are you an expert in special operations???
Questioning just to question does nothing

 

[Yurka]

Anyone have a link to the not-yet confirmed fake 2nd photo?

 

[redfirebird2008]

Anyone have a link to the not-yet confirmed fake 2nd photo?

You mean this one?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...h&tbm=isch0,2736&um=1&itbs=1&biw=1366&bih=612

 

[chelo248]

And what you don't have a clue about, apparently.

Unless you were there and in the middle of all this when it went down. Oh wait, internet + 24 hour news = everyone is an expert.

nouan has a valid point of view, a lot of people thinks like him, you don't need to be "in the middle of all this" to express your opinion.

 

[roach]

nouan has a valid point of view, a lot of people thinks like him, you don't need to be "in the middle of all this" to express your opinion.

no he doesnt...is he an expert in forensics???
He sees a toy gun and assumes this is what they fought the SEALs with

 

[nouan]

you will be waiting for a long time to get hard facts on a DEVGRU mission
but you are questioning the facts based on what???
Are you an expert in special operations???
Questioning just to question does nothing

We have no facts, that's why I question.

Just looking... at those photos... they have no visible entry wounds... in they're face or torso... so I'm wondering if they were shot in the back while running away or... ???

 

[nouan]

no he doesnt...is he an expert in forensics???
He sees a toy gun and assumes this is what they fought the SEALs with

No, no. I'm just throwing out an idea that maybe these guys didn't have guns, and that waterpistol is the closest to a gun there was. Meaning, there were no guns at all. I also understand that the whatever guns there may have been, were removed from these now dead individuals. Just trying out different scenarios to those we are told.

 

[Yurka]

You mean this one?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl...h&tbm=isch0,2736&um=1&itbs=1&biw=1366&bih=612

I guess so! Yea I havent seen that yet. It looks fake to me, doesnt match the description of the bullet wounds either.

 

[roach]

We have no facts, that's why I question.

Just looking... at those photos... they have no visible entry wounds... in they're face or torso... so I'm wondering if they were shot in the back while running away or... ???

its like talking to a wall.....
exit wounds are bigger than entry wounds..so they werent shot in the back or else there would be huge holes in their fronts

1) Dead guy number one we only see one side of his face so his wounds could be on the side we dont see
2) Dead guy number two's wounds look to be in the midsection but possibly the way he fell his shirt or robe maybe covering the wounds
3) Dead guy number three is shot in the chin...its that hole thats on his chin

My expertise on the subject comes from my 10 years in the military.

 

[Yurka]

We have no facts, that's why I question.

Just looking... at those photos... they have no visible entry wounds... in they're face or torso... so I'm wondering if they were shot in the back while running away or... ???

Did you really look at the pictures? Two appear to have visible entry wounds

 

[Whiskey Tango]

nouan has a valid point of view, a lot of people thinks like him, you don't need to be "in the middle of all this" to express your opinion.

Bull. ****. He was pretty smugly insinuating those guys had been executed with a bullet to the back of the head shot in the back based on nothing but a photograph of a blood-drenched corpse.

 

[roach]

No, no. I'm just throwing out an idea that maybe these guys didn't have guns, and that waterpistol is the closest to a gun there was. Meaning, there were no guns at all. I also understand that the whatever guns there may have been, were removed from these now dead individuals. Just trying out different scenarios to those we are told.

no you are making up BS...it does not take 40 minutes for 24 Navy SEALs to overcome unarmed people.
It is standard operating procedure to remove weapons...even police dont leave weapons behind.
we could be having a logical discussion about the ramifications of OBL death but instead you are trying to play CSI Miami by looking at pictures

 

[nouan]

Bull. ****. He was pretty smugly insinuating those guys had been executed with a bullet to the back of the head based on nothing but a photograph of a blood-drenched corpse.

Ahah well you wrote that not me. And roach there was kind enough to lend me his expertise on the matter. To whom I can say that yes, I know how the entry/exit wounds usually work, and no, I didn't see the spot on that one guy's chin as a entry wound. But looking at it again, it could be the entry wound.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Ahah well you wrote that not me. And roach there was kind enough to lend me his expertise on the matter. To whom I can say that yes, I know how the entry/exit wounds usually work, and no, I didn't see the spot on that one guy's chin as a entry wound. But looking at it again, it could be the entry wound.

No, you wrote it:

Notable is also the fact that two of those guys have lots of blood under they're heads, but no notable bulletholes in they're faces. Maybe they got hit in the back of the head or something...

...or have you already conveniently forgotten since you were called on it?

 

[CelticPredator]

It is one. Now go away.

 

[yoshimura]

how does the Department of Homeland Security mean taking away freedoms???
What freedoms have I lost?

With regards to the Department of Homeland Security:

Loss of economic freedom: the proposed DHS budget for 2012 alone is 43.8 billion. Since its inception, it has run up hundreds of billions. You are threatened with force to pay. Therefore you lose economic freedom on how to use your own money. This is also a drag on the economy since the money (and therefore resources) aren't being allocated efficiently.

Loss of individual liberty and privacy: Where to start… how about the TSA?
Viper checkpoints at bus stops.
Checkpoints AFTER you leave a train. Checking for "ihre papiere!"
Body scanners.
Border checkpoints.
Spying on peaceful protest groups.
Getting us to spy on each other via the “If You See Something, Say Something” campaign.
Funnelling dozens of millions of dollars to local governments nationwide to install cameras in public places.
…

 

[roach]

and this is why the pics wont get released...because people will somehow become CSI's and look for everything wrong in the picture

 

[Marx]

There was also a report that the SEALs were told to assume Bin Laden had a suicide vest on unless they found him naked.

I'd say that's a good assumption.

 

[nouan]

no you are making up BS...it does not take 40 minutes for 24 Navy SEALs to overcome unarmed people.
It is standard operating procedure to remove weapons...even police dont leave weapons behind.
we could be having a logical discussion about the ramifications of OBL death but instead you are trying to play CSI Miami by looking at pictures

Didn't that 40 minutes include gathering and photographing the data and taking the prisoners? So the fight could have lasted 10 minutes. Or even less. But okay, my comments are irritating to some, so I'll quit for now. Better?

 

[roach]

With regards to the Department of Homeland Security:

Loss of economic freedom: the proposed DHS budget for 2012 alone is 43.8 billion. Since its inception, it has run up hundreds of billions. You are threatened with force to pay. Therefore you lose economic freedom on how to use your own money. This is also a drag on the economy since the money (and therefore resources) aren't being allocated efficiently.

Loss of individual liberty and privacy: Where to start… how about the TSA?
Viper checkpoints at bus stops.
Checkpoints AFTER you leave a train. Checking for "ihre papiere!"
Body scanners.
Border checkpoints.
Spying on peaceful protest groups.
Getting us to spy on each other via the “If You See Something, Say Something” campaign.
Funnelling dozens of millions of dollars to local governments nationwide to install cameras in cameras in public places.
…

I still spend my money in whatever way I want to there goes your economic freedoms I lost.
I can tell you dont live in the US
No one at a bus stop is being checkpointed.
I took a train last week and I was concerned at the lack of security. I never showed my ID once
Border checkpoints were here way before the Patriot Act
"If you see something say something" used to be called Neighborhood Watch which was here before the Patriot Act
Yeah those cameras are called traffic cams...been here before the Patriot Act

 

[CelticPredator]

Didn't that 40 minutes include gathering and photographing the data and taking the prisoners? So the fight could have lasted 10 minutes. Or even less. But okay, my comments are irritating to some, so I'll quit for now. Better?

Yes.

 

[nouan]

No, you wrote it:



...or have you already conveniently forgotten since you were called on it?

I meant that I never said they were executed with the shot in the back of the head. One could assume the just got shot in that region while running or something. But you're right, I guess I was kinda insinuating to that direction.

And I admit that there should be visible exit wounds if that was the case. So you debunked that idea.

 

[roach]

Didn't that 40 minutes include gathering and photographing the data and taking the prisoners? So the fight could have lasted 10 minutes. Or even less. But okay, my comments are irritating to some, so I'll quit for now. Better?

i dont mind debating people who dont agree with my views but you are just grasping at straws....looking for some piece of information that will open up a conspiracy...the whole Missile hit the Pentagon on 9/11 conspiracy stemmed from someone who never heard a missile said it sounded like a missile

 

[nouan]

and this is why the pics wont get released...because people will somehow become CSI's and look for everything wrong in the picture

No, they say the pictures are just too gruesome. They didn't say that they're not going to release them because there would be doubters. Just because they are too horrific. Which brings me to the point of why didn't they take pictures of the body after it was prepped for burial, with cloth covering the gaping hole in forehead. But now I'm repeating myself and I said I would quit posting on this thread for a while.