Days of Future Past Bryan Singer Directing X-Men: Days of Future Past - Part 6

[GuestStar2004]

Did they really need to In the Avengers have Stark confront Loki In penthouse? Of course not that was done to give Downey more screentime against Loki.Iron Man In films anyway Is most popular Avenger.Just Like Wolverine has always been the most popular
X-Man.

well the difference between jackman and Downey is that jackman is always on screen, Downey is only on screen when he is out of the iron man suit, so they had to give downey some big moments to shine mostly because it would just be stunt men and close ups of his face all through out and Downey needed more then that

with Xmen wolverine basically did everything, it wasnt a case of he wasnt in it enough it was a case of they were either to scared to not use him alot or the writers didn't really care about any other character

its ironic actually because i read today jackman said the problem with origins was more like an X4 then a wolverine film and was more about them then being a story about who wolverine is

 

[Daybreak_st]

Singer had nothing to do with the third film.

Cyclops was shortchanged in X2, but certainly not in X1.

And this looks ten times more interesting that FC.

In X1 he's taken out by Toad, belittled by Wolverine and at the end saved again by Wolverine. Then when they're trying to devise a plan to save Rogue they all make excuses like "STorm taken him out" "my powers don't work that way" or "Cyclops hit him" "I might miss", so again it's all up to Wolverine to save the day. Even though you have the brotherhood Wolverine faces off against three of the four members, will full on fights with both Mystique AND Sabertooth. What's the point in having a team if they're all inept except for one guy, the new guy. It makes you wonder how they even had a functional team before Wolverine joined up.

So yes Cyclops had more screen time in X1 but he was still marginalized. It's sad because I think he was perfectly cast.

 

[def28]

Did they really need to In the Avengers have Stark confront Loki In penthouse?

Yes, because he was the only villain. Everyone confronted him. Cap in Germany, Thor in the Forrest, Hawkeye in the intro, Black Widow in the Cell and IM +Hulk in The tower.

 

[The Batman]

If you still don't understand, let me repeat what I've been saying why FOX should continue with the original cast after DOFP is released.

No…they really shouldn’t.

As far as I’m concerned, DOFP should be Fox’s way of apologizing for “The Last Stand,” allowing most of the Original cast to bow out with a great movie and not Ratner’s terrible film.

I much prefer the idea of another FC film, one that would actually give characters like Scott and Ororo good character development for once. But in an absolutely ideal world, this franchise would be rebooted from scratch. In a world even better than that, the franchise would go home to Marvel/Disney.

IMO, as good as X1/X2/FC were, this franchise has NOT lived up to its potential. This is the X-Men. They WERE Marvel’s second biggest franchise, and yet characters like Iron Man and the Avengers have passed them in terms of relevance and box office dollars. I blame Fox for that entirely.

 

[The Batman]

Yes, because he was the only villain. Everyone confronted him. Cap in Germany, Thor in the Forrest, Hawkeye in the intro, Black Widow in the Cell and IM +Hulk in The tower.

This.

The idea that Downey was just as domineering over the Avengers film as Jackman over the entire X Franchise is just hilarious.

 

[psylockolussus]

That's what people said before DOFP. All I've heard from them in interviews is how excited they are to be asked back.

Yeah I don't know why some people here always think its impossible to bring them back for another film. No one from the OT cast said they are tired of doing these X-Men films.

 

[jonathancrane]

The First Class team cannot draw the same money that the Original Trilogy team does. It is possible to do a sequel to First Class and then (or before) an X4. I know there's a small faction that wants the Original Trilogy team gone, but, there's a large group that enjoys the OT team and wants to see more of them.

 

[GuestStar2004]

The First Class team cannot draw the same money that the Original Trilogy team does

i have to say i disagree with this

first class has great patential for another film and can make just as much as an X4

 

[psylockolussus]

No…they really shouldn’t.

As far as I’m concerned, DOFP should be Fox’s way of apologizing for “The Last Stand,” allowing most of the Original cast to bow out with a great movie and not Ratner’s terrible film.

I much prefer the idea of another FC film, one that would actually give characters like Scott and Ororo good character development for once. But in an absolutely ideal world, this franchise would be rebooted from scratch. In a world even better than that, the franchise would go home to Marvel/Disney.

IMO, as good as X1/X2/FC were, this franchise has NOT lived up to its potential. This is the X-Men. They WERE Marvel’s second biggest franchise, and yet characters like Iron Man and the Avengers have passed them in terms of relevance and box office dollars. I blame Fox for that entirely.

Well you should now accept the fact that they aren't gonna home to Marvel anytime soon. If there's someone to blame for these X-Men movies, then you should blame Marvel since they sold the movie rights to Fox in order to save their company from bankruptcy and in a way FOX kinda helped Marvel, Marvel wouldn't be releasing their own films if it wasn't for FOX's money and the success of the X-Men films.

And business-wise, it would be smart for FOX to just continue with the cast that performed better at the box-office. The general audience were already familiar with them before. Releasing two more films is not a bad idea, since DOFP is already earning a lot of buzz because of their return.

 

[GuestStar2004]

And business-wise, it would be smart for FOX to just continue with the cast that performed better at the box-office. The general audience were already familiar with them before. Releasing two more films is not a bad idea, since DOFP is already earning a lot of buzz because of their return.

yeah you keep believing its all because of them

there is a buzz for many reasons, dunno why its so hard for you to see that, the OT is only one piece of the puzzel

 

[psylockolussus]

i have to say i disagree with this

first class has great patential for another film and can make just as much as an X4

Yes because First Class is lowest grossing X-Men to date.

And I don't get this "DOFP will help the FC cast to get more exposure" argument, do you know people would be asking for more Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Iceman, Shadowcat, Colossus and those mutants from the future after DOFP is released.

The First Class team cannot draw the same money that the Original Trilogy team does. It is possible to do a sequel to First Class and then (or before) an X4. I know there's a small faction that wants the Original Trilogy team gone, but, there's a large group that enjoys the OT team and wants to see more of them.

Ding ding ding! I don't get why people don't see this.

Maybe if First Class performed a lot better at the box-office, then I would be asking FOX to do move forward with the cast of First Class, but no. Plus they already brought back the original cast. They just can't bring back them back for 1 movie and then after that, go back to the prequel cast that obviously attracts less to the general audience.

 

[def28]

I know there's a small faction that wants the Original Trilogy team gone, but, there's a large group that enjoys the OT team and wants to see more of them.

What everyone wants is for the main X-Men to get their due.Those characters are what bring people in. Not the cast. It's the same as any franchise. It gets rebooted no one will care as long as it's good, except the Singer fans who can't accept change.

 

[roach]

But ther has to be a point where you say lets give someone else this badass line, it seems like a bad writers mistake

Because Wolverine says badass lines in the comics...it's true to his character

 

[psylockolussus]

yeah you keep believing its all because of them

there is a buzz for many reasons, dunno why its so hard for you to see that, the OT is only one piece of the puzzel

I know there's a lot of reasons.

But the return of the original cast is the one thing that really people excited about this film.

Like I said, this board had a LOT of posts when Singer, announced the return of Patrick, Hugh, Ian, Halle, Shawn, Anna and Ellen.

 

[GuestStar2004]

Yes because First Class is lowest grossing X-Men to date.

And I don't get this "DOFP will help the FC cast to get more exposure" argument, do you know people would be asking for more Wolverine, Storm, Rogue, Iceman, Shadowcat, Colossus and those mutants from the future after DOFP is released.

many people loved FC and many only see it on DVD because they gave up on the Xmen films because of X3 and Origins

many loved First class, did it bring back alot of interest in this franchise? yes, would it make more money? yes, even more so after DOFP? yes

you have it all wrong

 

[psylockolussus]

What everyone wants is for the main X-Men to get their due.Those characters are what bring people in. Not the cast. It's the same as any franchise. It gets rebooted no one will care as long as it's good, except the Singer fans who can't accept change.

And the characters that the OT cast are potraying are more appealing.

Seriously Wolverine, Storm, Iceman, Rogue, Shadowcat, Colossus, Professor X, Magneto over young Professor X, young Magneto, Mystique and Beast? How about you throw in the other characters that appeared in OT and FC. The OT characters are still more appealing.

Even if FOX can't give them a great role and a big role, people would still watch the movie. Its just gonna be the fan-boys who will be asking more screentime to the other characters.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I know there's a lot of reasons.

But the return of the original cast is the one thing that really people excited about this film.

Like I said, this board had a LOT of posts when Singer, announced the return of Patrick, Hugh, Ian, Halle, Shawn, Anna and Ellen.

yeah because no one ever thought it would happen, has the excitment toned down since? yes

its also sentinals and how much like the comics it will be, new well known characters

you need to drop this OT obsession

 

[psylockolussus]

many people loved FC and many only see it on DVD because they gave up on the Xmen films because of X3 and Origins

many loved First class, did it bring back alot of interest in this franchise? yes, would it make more money? yes, even more so after DOFP? yes

you have it all wrong

You are the one who got it wrong, First Class is the lowest grossing X-Men film. And obviously FOX brought back the original cast to bring more interest to this series. And many people loved the original trilogy, they broke records at the box-office and X-Men was at their peak with them.

 

[Iceman]

If Cyclops & Storm had been done justice I don't think there would be as many complaints about Wolverine. It's ok for the less important X-Men to get less exposure but the main ones are crucial.

 

[psylockolussus]

yeah because no one ever thought it would happen, has the excitment toned down since? yes

its also sentinals and how much like the comics it will be, new well known characters

you need to drop this OT obsession

And you need to stop attacking me. If you can't handle a proper conversation in this board, you should stop posting. As long as I'm not breaking any rules here, I will reply again and again.

 

[GuestStar2004]

You are the one who got it wrong, First Class is the lowest grossing X-Men film. And obviously FOX brought back the original cast to bring more interest to this series. And many people loved the original trilogy, they broke records at the box-office and X-Men was at their peak with them.

you keep saying about being the weakest box office, it was a new cast and no wolverine, they took the risk and it payed off, a film that wasn't about wolverine, the OT had to depend on wolverine to get the big numbers

yes people loved the OT and people loved FC, there is no way you can big up the OT to take credit for the buzz DOFP has

ah tiring

 

[roach]

The OT characters are better than the First Class Characters

 

[GuestStar2004]

And you need to stop attacking me. If you can't handle a proper conversation in this board, you should stop posting. As long as I'm not breaking any rules here, I will reply again and again.

thats fine, although you do post the same thing over and over again, and it gets to the point where you big up the OT in a real unrealistic way, its very one minded

 

[def28]

If Cyclops & Storm had been done justice I don't think there would be as many complaints about Wolverine. It's ok for the less important X-Men to get less exposure but the main ones are crucial.

Pretty much, would have been nice if they got Rogue or Iceman right as well. Too many characters are a letdown here for me to care if the OT actors and Singer never show up again.

 

[roach]

to be fair the OT had the better characters and actors...I like the guys who played young Xavier and Young Magneto but they can't hold a candle to Sir Patrick or Ian....seriously who would you rather see... First Class Beast, Banshee and Havok or X2 Cyclops, Wolverine and Storm...hell even Nightcrawler and Colossus were more interesting in X2 than any of the other mutants in First Class