California man - 80 - shoots and kills pregnant woman during home invasion

[KevanG]

Only the Calvinball rules though, no girls allowed would make things boring.

 

[PacificBoy]

Amen.

 

[Hotwire]

That said, I am not sure why you guys are making these Rambo references with charl. She read the law and stated her opinion....it certainly does not make her some sort of blood thirsty crazed person, although some of you guys have compared her to such. Maybe just debate the issues and opinions without comparing her to 80's action stars or actual killers.

It has to do with her avid support of the, "Shoot first, shoot some more, and once they're dead, blame them for getting shot," stance that has been seen several times in threads like these.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

How easy is it to obtain a gun in the States?

I lived with guns when I was doing my national service; I can't imagine living with guns in my civilian life, knowing someone I don't know may have a piece on him, and thinking where's my piece in response.

If it were up to me, no one should be getting a gun unless they pass a psych test. But it's an impossible scenario.

Alas, contrary to non-American belief, that's not what living in the U.S. is like.

 

[Tanin]

I live in Texas where concealed carry is legal and I don't go around thinking everyone is out to shoot me.

 

[Anita18]

I live in Texas where concealed carry is legal and I don't go around thinking everyone is out to shoot me.

You don't, but I'm sure some people do.

 

[Tanin]

You don't, but I'm sure some people do.

No doubt, but worth stating it isn't everyone

 

[Lantern Venom]

I seriously doubt that any charges will be brought against Greer. It's true that he didn't need to use any force once his attackers had fled, and he certainly didn't need to shoot a woman in the back. However, he was a frail, elderly man (who might not be playing with a full deck) who just endured the shock of a two-person assault. What he did was wrong, but he was thrust into a set of circumstances where thinking with clarity would be difficult-to-impossible even for a person in his/her prime.

 

[PacificBoy]

Oh, I don't mean to judge -- how can I really, I don't live there, I don't know the gun culture firsthand -- I'm just thinking aloud about my own situation.

When a gun is put in your hands, when you don't want one to be, when you're taught a gun is a weapon, is a deterrent, is meant to kill to protect, you get a heightened sensibility about having a gun on you. But that's me.

Maybe I'm a bit broken by my army experience.

EDIT: That sounded a tad overdramatic, sorry!

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Oh, I don't mean to judge -- how can I really, I don't live there, I don't know the gun culture firsthand -- I'm just thinking aloud about my own situation.

When a gun is put in your hands, when you don't want one to be, when you're taught a gun is a weapon, is a deterrent, is meant to kill to protect, you get a heightened sensibility about having a gun on you. But that's me.

Maybe I'm a bit broken by my army experience.

EDIT: That sounded a tad overdramatic, sorry!

No worries, in general I just tire of non-Americans and their generalizations about this country and our "gun culture".

It's true we do have problems here with our guns, but it's not some wild west thing where everyone is paranoid about everyone else walking down the street with guns at all times.