The Dark Knight campy,cheesy....TDK????

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i am asking serious questions. i am opening this thread in the spoiler section because the teaser is not official out. i want a serious debate.

ok letss start.am i the only one who thought that the dialoge from the teaser was idiotic,campy,cheesy and pathetic? am i the only one who thinks that what alfred is saying is just dumb? of course there is a 90% chance that this dialoge is out of context. i think in the movie they are talking about something different. but does this matter? fact is that this was in the teaser so if it is out of context it is only worse.

IMO the dialoge was dumb.so now the question that i am asking my self if this is that kind of dialoge that we will get through the whole movie. yeah yeah i knwo faith in nolan but i am serious here. i dont think that this teaser will ahve an effect at the BO but it looks to me like WB doesnt care. like they dont care enough to make a more badass teaser.

what do you think?

A silvery blue particle blasts from behind a “Batman Begins” logo – silhouetteing it. With each woosh, there’s a piece of dialogue.

Bruce: “I knew the mob wouldn’t go down without a fight. But this is different. They’ve crossed a line.”

Alfred: “You crossed the line first, sir. You’ve [muffled] them. And in their desperation, they turned to a man they didn’t fully understand.

“Some men aren’t looking for anything logical. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.”

Joker: “Starting tonight, people will die. I’m a man of my word.” (laughs)

Finally, the blasts of light fly at the screen and destroy the logo. The last piece flips over to reveal a Joker card.
 
I think its too early to judge since we don't know much about what they are talking about.
 
you think this dialogue is dumb? Are you kidding me? This is some excellent dialogue, and it's not even in context. It's pieces of dialogue put together to make some kind of shortened narrative.
 
The rest of the dialogue was ok. Ledger's voice shows promise, but not his writing...
 
I like the dialogue. It reads a little weird on the page, but when actually said by Bale and Caine and Ledger, it rocks.
 
Neon lights, check
Nipples on the bat-suit: pray to god they wont
 
ITS A TEASER!!! most of the time, the dialog or scenes in a trailer or teaser ARENT in the movie. and i didnt think the dialogue was stupid.
 
you think this dialogue is dumb? Are you kidding me? This is some excellent dialogue, and it's not even in context. It's pieces of dialogue put together to make some kind of shortened narrative.
alfred is saying to bruce that he is the one who started it. are they in kinder garden?
bruce parents were killed. batman is chasing people who are are criminals. its simple logic. criminals are stealing killing because they want to and they need this. also simple logic.

so i dont understand how can this dialoge make sense.

:csad:
 
you think this dialogue is dumb? Are you kidding me? This is some excellent dialogue, and it's not even in context. It's pieces of dialogue put together to make some kind of shortened narrative.

Its tells alot us alot more than what we know.
 
I dont think it's cheesy at all. I don't get why people are hating on it. He's basically telling Bruce that he created a ****storm. That said ****storm for help went to someone(most likely the Joker) to help them but didn't realize he is a loose cannon.
 
Here's an example. What Joker says is probably part of a monologue. Here is appears to be in the teaser: "Starting tonight, people will die. I’m a man of my word." But what he probably says in the movie is much more elaborate. First he'll talk about something, then he'll segway into "Starting tonight..." He'll say something very menacing and twisted. And then he'll says something else that will segway into "people will die." He'll continue and somewhere along the line say "I'm a man of my word." It's a combination of different parts of maybe even different scenes, put together to make a quick point. It's called editing, and has little or no bearing on the quality of the writing, because it's only bits and pieces.
 
Yeah the neon (I know it's because of Joker) is a little off-putting.
 
dark_b: are you ****ing kidding me? You've heard like five lines of (good IMO) dialogue that is most likely out of context. I know you're just voicing your opinion, but seriously, its a year away, and all you have to judge the dialogue is a few lines of probably a 150+ page script.
 
alfred is saying to bruce that he is the one who started it. are they in kinder garden?
bruce parents were killed. batman is chasing people who are are criminals. its simple logic. criminals are stealing killing because they want to and they need this. also simple logic.

so i dont understand how can this dialoge make sense.

:csad:

okay, but he's not talking about that. He's saying that once you started trying to take them down, they went for help in the form of the Joker. So, essentially, Bruce did start this. Where is the confusion?
 
alfred is saying to bruce that he is the one who started it. are they in kinder garden?
bruce parents were killed. batman is chasing people who are are criminals. its simple logic. criminals are stealing killing because they want to and they need this. also simple logic.

so i dont understand how can this dialoge make sense.

:csad:


It does make sense. The fact that he is around taking down Mob bosses causing the other mobs to fight over territory and power, it has caused more death and destruction than the balance with the criminals they had beforehand.
 
i understand what they are talking about. its just that the way they are saying it is strange.
 
And people keep saying Joker is saying "Starting tonight..." He doesn't say that. He says "By tonight, people will die."
 
dark_b: are you ****ing kidding me? You've heard like five lines of (good IMO) dialogue that is most likely out of context. I know you're just voicing your opinion, but seriously, its a year away, and all you have to judge the dialogue is a few lines of probably a 150+ page script.
i am just wondering if there is a chance. the dialoge from teh BB teaser was briliant. this isnt IMO.

like i said in the context of the movie this can work 100%. but in hte teaser it sounds stupid from alfred.
 
It appears Bruce defeated the mob, but the mob turned to "a man they didn't fully understand." The Joker. He's the man who wants to watch the world burn.
 
campy? cheesy? what are you on about? i gotta call u on this dark b.. its dialogue..its about things getting worse.. its small samples from the film to illustrate that things are not going well for batman. he's started trouble, things are in escalation..mobs, gangs, arch criminals... when he says ..'they crossed a line' it probably cos someone important has been killed or a lot of innocent people... gangs in a loose alliance with a mass murdering criminal Joker... Batman and Alfred are talking about how this new situation has been unleashed.. the batman logo burns... it says the dark knight is dark, messed up, people are gonna die, batman is going to be tested fatally by the Joker...... sounds like finally we are getting our hardcore batman against Joker film and you call that cheesy? you lightweight.

also.. the writing is good. its like the best batman... moody, deep, classic, cold, ferocious
 
Just in a few lines, they have managed to hit upon a new element of the issues of the Bruce/Batman dichotomy, how Batman's involvement in the pursuit of crime has in fact escalated the war between mobs and in the process has caused more problems. Alfred has always been the one person in Bruce's life attempting to keep the irrational vigilante in check of his real motives, and what you see as immature and childish blaming for starting the war, I see as another attempt by Alfred to rationalise Bruce's action's. He's not just the butler.
 
campy? cheesy? what are you on about? i gotta call u on this dark b.. its dialogue..its about things getting worse.. its small samples from the film to illustrate that things are not going well for batman. he's started trouble, things are escalation..mobs, gangs, arch criminals... when he says ..they crossed a line it probably cos someone important has been killed or a lot of innocent people... gangs in a loose alliance with a mass murdering criminal Joker... Batman and Alfred are talking about how this new situation has been unleashed.. the batman logo burns... it says the dark knight is dark, messed up, people are gonna die.... sounds like finally we are getting our hardcore batman agsint Joker film and you call that cheesy? you lightweight.


LOL!!
 
It sounds like the same people who write for general hospital also write TDK, wouldnt be surprised if the joker is really Bruce Wayne's long lost brother
 

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