Can fiction make a genuine worldwide Impact on Reality?

[November Rain]

Right before people dive off into it, let's leave out the skeptism of those who aren't religious in saying religious texts are completely fabricated.

besides such, is there any fiction out there that has either or has the potential to change the way we live our lives today, or view the world.

closest thing i can think of is perhaps teh davinci code but on my ruling, i suppose it isnt legit since i want to keep religion out of this.

right, cheers.

 

[TheSumOfGod]

A great movie can change the world. Just think of the Matrix.

 

[November Rain]

the world hasn't changed since then

 

[TheSumOfGod]

Many people's way of thinking has.

 

[Ronny Shade]

Everything changes the world

 

[Hades]

Many people's way of thinking has.

Only the schitzofrenic crackheads point of veiws.

I think he meant in a more broder sense. "worldwide"

 

[November Rain]

the concept of being 'controlled' by others has been around well before the matrix.

just like many other things, it just used modern day examples of how this manipulation could be achieved.

still, its effect is small scale.

 

[redmarvel]

Writers do try to warn folks or point out the things that need to be changed (1984, The Grapes of Wrath, Romeo & Juliet, Catch 22, etc). Sometimes a few people do things differently because of this. However, the world as a whole rarely changes because there are so many people in it that think "It's always been this way, why should we change it".

 

[Badger]

I think any fiction that has a chance to change the world or how we perceive it, has to have some roots in non-fiction. So I think 'Divinci Code', to some, is a great choice. Another would be the 'Expected One'.

 

[November Rain]

Everything changes the world

true but not always directly.

 

[Ronny Shade]

nothing is ever direct

 

[Hades]

Writers do try to warn folks or point out the things that need to be changed (1984, The Grapes of Wrath, Romeo & Juliet, Catch 22, etc). Sometimes a few people do things differently because of this. However, the world as a whole rarely changes because there are so many people in it that think "It's always been this way, why should we change it".

Or "I wont be around to see the consequences of my actions, why should I care?"

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Right before people dive off into it, let's leave out the skeptism of those who aren't religious in saying religious texts are completely fabricated.

Why? Why is that such a terrifying and dangerous idea.
I have a "world-view" that is more in line with the "world-view" of David Icke. People call it fiction and worse, and yet somehow, I remain, steadfast and smiling.

People and their silly beliefs in fairy tales remind me a lot of big, fat Aunt Edna.
No matter WHAT you do, NEVER verbally acknowledge the fact that Aunt Edna is overweight. It would be DEvastating!

 

[November Rain]

nothing is ever direct

well, i could go down some and give you examples of events that occured directly due to others but it'll take this down tangent alley.

 

[November Rain]

Why? Why is that such a terrifying and dangerous idea.
I have a "world-view" that is more in line with the "world-view" of David Icke. People call it fiction and worse, and yet somehow, I remain, steadfast and smiling.

People and their silly beliefs in fairy tales remind me a lot of big, fat Aunt Edna.
No matter WHAT you do, NEVER verbally acknowledge the fact that Aunt Edna is overweight. It would be DEvastating!

it's not terrifying or dangerous.

it's just very easy.

it's like asking someone to think of a colour starting with 'b', everyone says blue, so i omit the blue option and get some thought going. that's all.


edit: or biege or brown but you get the idea smartarses.....

 

[Ronny Shade]

well, i could go down some and give you examples of events that occured directly due to others but it'll take this down tangent alley.

Yeah let's go ahead and not do that

 

[November Rain]

I think any fiction that has a chance to change the world or how we perceive it, has to have some roots in non-fiction. So I think 'Divinci Code', to some, is a great choice. Another would be the 'Expected One'.

isn't most fiction to some degree rooted in reality.

I mean otherwise how is the viewer of any medium able to relate towards it?

do you mean set around a realistic 'now' environment?

how about films set in older times, do they have the power to change modern day perception or are they always gonna to be 'overloooked' because the timeframe is not relevant and it becomes more of a historic documentary?

i'm just throwing stuff out there...

 

[November Rain]

Yeah let's go ahead and not do that

er, your birth was directly due to your biological parents causing the fertilisation of an egg by a sperm cell produced by your biological parents?

should i go on or are you going to counter claim such?

 

[redmarvel]

Or "I wont be around to see the consequences of my actions, why should I care?"

Exactly and sometimes "I haven't got enough influence to really affect anything".

 

[Ronny Shade]

er, your birth was directly due to your biological parents causing the fertilisation of an egg by a sperm cell produced by your biological parents?

should i go on or are you going to counter claim such?

That's not direct

 

[November Rain]

ronny, explain what you mean.

do you mean direct as in, without a process because without a process, things would remain the same. I mean without a inbetween stage. a straight reaction to an event, or in this case a piece of media.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

it's not terrifying or dangerous.

it's just very easy.

Uh......you're exactly wrong there.
It IS terrifying and it IS dangerous and there is nothing "easy" about it.

Do you have any idea how many people have been killed preCISEly because they called religious texts "fiction"?

You're being dishonest with yourself.
You're trying to say, "Well, excluding the fiction that pretty much makes my thread moot, let's talk about "REAL" fiction."

Sorry, L. Ron Hubbard, Ezekiel and Mohammed were some of the most influential writers of "real" fiction in history, and yet you want to exclude them.

Lame thread then, sport.

 

[kainedamo]

A really good, influential piece of fiction won't change the world overnight.

But yes, a good piece of fiction can influence millions.

But not the Matrix. Whoever said the Matrix changed the way many people think is silly.

 

[War Lord]

Very few pieces of fiction have really ever changed anything. That doesn't mean it can't but very few have.

 

[twylight]

Literature is an uttering, or outering, of the human imagination. It lets the shadowy forms of thought and feeling - heaven, hell, monsters, angels and all - out into the light, where we can take a good look at them and perhaps come to a better understanding of who we are and what we want, and what the limits to those wants may be. Understanding the imagination is no longer a pastime, but a necessity; because increasingly, if we can imagine it, we'll be able to do it.
- Margaret Atwood,