The Dark Knight Capes and Cowls - New Batsuit Discussion Thread

[The Guard]

It's entirely possible to hate a costume and enjoy a movie...or enjoy a costume and hate a movie.

 

[Mandalore464]

Explain how subway map leggings resemble something Batman would wear "in the real world."

Everybody agreed from the start this leg section was unjustifiable, I don't know of anybody on these boards who tried and succeeded in justifying that jigsaw section, even the costume lovers have nothing to say about it.

My point was... GET OVER IT ALREADY.

And the TDK suit, altogether, does resemble something a real Batman would wear, ie an ARMOR with protections that are not made out of cloth. That's what I was talking about. Nobody ever said anything about the leg section looking nice and useful.

It's entirely possible to hate a costume and enjoy a movie...or enjoy a costume and hate a movie.

It is, but I'd rather watch the movie with a free mind and enjoy what's coming at me instead of focusing on the bottom of the screen everytime Batman's on it to make sure the leg section is not too visible so I won't have to hear the audience complain about how "sectioned and ugly and unpractical and artificial" it looks.

Accept it and go on.

 

[Saint]

Everybody agreed from the start this leg section was unjustifiable, I don't know of anybody on these boards who tried and succeeded in justifying that jigsaw section, even the costume lovers have nothing to say about it.

So you are saying that it is not something Batman would wear "in the real world?" This seems incompatible with your previous comments, which indicated the exact opposite.

My point was... GET OVER IT ALREADY.

Why? Does critical discussion of the film upset you?

And the TDK suit, altogether, does resemble something a real Batman would wear, ie an ARMOR with protections that are not made out of cloth. That's what I was talking about. Nobody ever said anything about the leg section looking nice and useful.

This doesn't follow. The legs are part of the suit. If the legs do not look real than the suit does not look real.

It is, but I'd rather watch the movie with a free mind and enjoy what's coming at me instead of focusing on the bottom of the screen everytime Batman's on it to make sure the leg section is not too visible so I won't have to hear the audience complain about how "sectioned and ugly and unpractical and artificial" it looks.

Explain how discussing the suit on a discussion forum in a thread for discussing the suit means we will be "focusing on the bottom of the screen everytime Batman's on it to make sure the leg section is not too visible so [we] won't have to hear the audience complain about how "sectioned and ugly and unpractical and artificial" it looks."

No, really: I'm excited to hear how one follows from the other. This must be some kind of Super Logic or Logic Advance that I am not aware of.

 

[lujho]

 

[Conebone69]

That suits way too bland

 

[Saint]

I like the additional detailing on the arm. My preference, though, is for the TDK symbol--albeit, larger.

 

[Saint]

That suits way too bland

That's quite a typo--I've never seen anyone type "bland" while trying to say "awesome."

Heh.

 

[mcallima]

That suits way too bland

Correction, it's way too awesome.

Great job luhjo.

 

[Conebone69]

Good manip, but just too bland

 

[lujho]

Thanks guys. I've got to say, this is by far the closest thing I've done to what I've envisioned for years now. Starting with a really high res image helped a lot as did the various tools of photoshop I previously haven't had access too.

Pity it's not the whole body, but I guess you can imagine what the rest would be like.

 

[lujho]

Good manip, but just too bland

The same level of detail has been perfectly fine for almost every other Superhero film. I get that Batman has to have armour to be realistic, but there's nothing about him that sets him apart from any other superhero in regards to how much detail he needs.

 

[nickyg641]

Thanks guys. I've got to say, this is by far the closest thing I've done to what I've envisioned for years now. Starting with a really high res image helped a lot as did the various tools of photoshop I previously haven't had access too.

Pity it's not the whole body, but I guess you can imagine what the rest would be like.

Three things, just suggestions based on nothing but my own personal preferences:

Use the TDK logo, but bigger

and

I like the eyebrows of the TDK mask better. Makes gives him a more detirmined look, to me.

Also, I did rather like the arms of your first manip better, with the shoulderpads.

 

[Saint]

The same level of detail has been perfectly fine for almost every other Superhero film. I get that Batman has to have armour to be realistic, but there's nothing about him that sets him apart from any other superhero in regards to how much detail he needs.

Apparently minimalism died when the artists of the world weren't looking.

 

[Nightmare]

Looks like a 60's batman suit.

 

[The Shape]

It's because people get lose their powers of judgement when they are excited about a movie. It returns around a year later, before it lies dormant again in anticipation of the sequel.

Some of it is because a lot of people come into this having been introduced to the character via the movies. And some of it is that people just like things that are techy and cool looking. To each his own.

Maybe some of it is because people genuinely like the direction Nolan has taken with the suit. Yeah, it's techy and busy, but it works for many people who aren't comic extremists and can appreciate different interpretations of the Batman character. It's a fitting representation of the Batman character and works within the realm of Nolan's movie-verse.

 

[Mandalore464]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandalore464
Everybody agreed from the start this leg section was unjustifiable, I don't know of anybody on these boards who tried and succeeded in justifying that jigsaw section, even the costume lovers have nothing to say about it.

So you are saying that it is not something Batman would wear "in the real world?" This seems incompatible with your previous comments, which indicated the exact opposite.

I love the way you're pretending not to understand to make it look like you're right, clearly the quote in your sig has gotten to your head.

I NEVER -and that's the second time I say it- said that the leg section looks like something a real Batman armor would have.

I can't bother to repeat myself so I'm just gonna ask you to clearly re-read my previous message and sort my point out for yourself, big boy.

Quote:
My point was... GET OVER IT ALREADY.

Why? Does critical discussion of the film upset you?

Continuous, redundant b*tching which is as unnecessary as the leg section on the batsuit does.

And the TDK suit, altogether, does resemble something a real Batman would wear, ie an ARMOR with protections that are not made out of cloth. That's what I was talking about. Nobody ever said anything about the leg section looking nice and useful.

This doesn't follow. The legs are part of the suit. If the legs do not look real than the suit does not look real.

Sure, what's next? A part of the female population's been unkind to you so all women are b*tches? Again, read my previous message and the one before it and don't pretend it's not clear enough. Saying that a suit resembles what Batman would wear in real life and saying that the TDK suit leg section would definitely be what a real Batman would wear on his legs are two very different things. I only wrote the first, never ever the latter, nor did I mean it.

Explain how discussing the suit on a discussion forum in a thread for discussing the suit means we will be "focusing on the bottom of the screen everytime Batman's on it to make sure the leg section is not too visible so [we] won't have to hear the audience complain about how "sectioned and ugly and unpractical and artificial" it looks."

You are generalizing a great lot. My message, as mentioned previously, does not point at all the people criticizing the suit, but at the minority of them who talk about it as if the fact that it's made of armor and not cloth has completely destroyed their Bat-lives. I am just asking them to get over it. Plain and simple.

No, really: I'm excited to hear how one follows from the other. This must be some kind of Super Logic or Logic Advance that I am not aware of.

Must be...

 

[nickyg641]

Looks like a 60's batman suit.

I don't get it. Any time someone presents something that doesn't look like it's from the 23rd century, people say it looks like the 60's suit.

 

[lujho]

This one's just to show what it would be like - I'd never suggest ditching the emblem:

 

[lujho]

I don't get it. Any time someone presents something that doesn't look like it's from the 23rd century, people say it looks like the 60's suit.

Be fair - it IS practically identical to Adam West's suit. I'm not sure why I spent so much time on it when I could have just posted a photo of West.

 

[Saint]

I love the way you're pretending not to understand to make it look like you're right, clearly the quote in your sig has gotten to your head.

I understand perfectly--you seem to think that unrealistic legs don't make the suit unrealistic, and that doesn't make sense to me. If a big part of the suit is unrealistic, then saying "the suit is realitic!" doesn't make sense.

I NEVER -and that's the second time I say it- said that the leg section looks like something a real armor Batman would have.

You said the suit looks like something he would have, and the legs are part of the suit. Understand the contradiction.

I can't bother to repeat myself so I'm just gonna ask you to clearly re-read my previous message and sort my point out for yourself, big boy.

I was about to say something like this.

Continuous, redundant b*itching which is as unnecessary as the leg section on the batsuit does.

But it's okay for you to continuously, redundantly complain about the types of discussions other people are having? Hurm. You'll understand if discussing the batsuit in the batsuit thread seems less ridiculous to me than coming into the same thread and complaining that people are talking about the batsuit in ways you don't like.

Sure, what's next? A part of the female population's been unkind to you so all women are b*itches?

Ah, cunning and poignant. No, really: that's just such an accurate analogy that I am just beyond words. Truly, I am defeated this day.

Again, read my previous message and the one before it and don't pretend it's not clear enough. Saying that a suit resembles what Batman would wear in real life and saying that the TDK suit leg section would definitely be what a real Batman would wear on his legs are two very different things. I only wrote the first, never ever the latter, not did I mean it.

I'm sorry, but a big chunk of the suit being unrealistic and the claim that the suit is realistic are not compatible. If I have an apple that's gone rotten in the top left quarter, I don't say "I have a good apple."

You are generalizing a great lot.

You're the one who made the connection, not me. I only asked that you explain it.

My message, as mentioned previously, does not point at all the people criticizing the suit, but at the minority of them who talk about it as if the fact that it's made of armor and not cloth has completely destroyed their Bat-fans's Bat-lives. I am just asking them to get over it. Plain and simple.

Your clarification of which people you are talking to doesn't change anything about anything I've said.

 

[Saint]

Looks like a 60's batman suit.

Explain how.

 

[VII7]

lol haters

 

[Superhobo]

Maybe some of it is because people genuinely like the direction Nolan has taken with the suit. Yeah, it's techy and busy, but it works for many people who aren't comic extremists and can appreciate different interpretations of the Batman character. It's a fitting representation of the Batman character and works within the realm of Nolan's movie-verse.

Why is it that the only people who can criticize this suit are 'comic extremists'?

 

[nickyg641]

Be fair - it IS practically identical to Adam West's suit. I'm not sure why I spent so much time on it when I could have just posted a photo of West.

Perhaps it could do with more detail. Tech it up a little bit, maybe. I know that's what you were trying to get away from, but, it couldn't hurt if it looked a tad more like armor.

I say, add back in the shoulder pad, put a little detail to the ab-area

eg.

and make the upper part of the torso a seperate piece from the bottom.

 

[Nightmare]

Explain how.

Its too plain. Reminds me of George Reeve's superman suit.