Captain America 2: News and Speculation - Part 4

Discussion in 'Captain America: The Winter Soldier' started by Thread Manager, Apr 25, 2013.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. Crimson King

    Crimson King Superhero Novelista

    Joined:
    Dec 15, 2006
    Messages:
    5,918
    Likes Received:
    0
    You don't cast Robert Redford in a movie like this and relegate him to a scene here and there. He'll get his fair share. Hill, maybe, maybe not. She and Fury will probably end up with the same amount.

    There are a lot of moving parts for the Russos to juggle. I hope they're up for it.
     
    #51
  2. DarthSkywalker

    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2004
    Messages:
    86,254
    Likes Received:
    145
    We just don't know, and won't for awhile. Perhaps when we get a more clear picture of the roles and outline of the story, we might be able to piece more things together. If Hill works for Redford, who is now in charge of Shield, I am pretty sure they will both get a good bit of screen time.
     
    #52
  3. BullMcGiveny

    BullMcGiveny Probably Disagree

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    2,940
    Likes Received:
    0
    Evans and Scarjo will get the lion's share of screentime.

    SLJ has said the movie explores his backstory and that he has a larger role than in the Avengers. He described the movie as a "SHIELD operation" so it's a safe bet than Hill gets some screentime, maybe Sitwell, too.

    St-Pierre has a small role that is already over.

    Hayley Atwell supposedly has three separate fight scenes, make of that what you will.

    Mackie is supposedly in a good deal of the movie. I don't think he'll get a fair share, but not as much as Evans and Scarjo.

    I think Sebastian Stan will get an amount ranging from Mackie to Scarjo.

    Redford seems to be a big role, possibly the head villain in disguise. Could be a small but memorable role. I think he'll show up in Peggy's flashbacks, myself.

    Everyone else, I don't know. I think Zola will be a cameo, possibly also in a flashback.
     
    #53
  4. DarthSkywalker

    DarthSkywalker May the Force Be With You

    Joined:
    Jun 16, 2004
    Messages:
    86,254
    Likes Received:
    145
    It is kind of funny. I wasn't expecting a lot of Widow, but I'll be excited if she does get a lot of screentime.

    The inclusion of Atwell is incredible to me, in a very good way. Once again I wasn't expecting much, so I will love what I can get. I wonder if we are going to see her a few years post-WW2. Perhaps tracking and battling the Winter Solider? Perhaps Cold War style? Maybe see will meet a younger version of Redford's character.
     
    #54
  5. peterparker0077

    peterparker0077 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2001
    Messages:
    1,625
    Likes Received:
    0
    Most likely, but you can't say that with certainty. Tommy Lee Jones only filmed for just over a week with CA:TFA and he has a large part in that movie.

    But we don't know if they are for the movie, or for that short/one-shot we keep hearing about.
     
    #55
  6. Norrin Parker

    Norrin Parker Majestor of the Shi'ar

    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2012
    Messages:
    1,118
    Likes Received:
    0
    In the first movie we had Cap, Peggy, Bucky, Chester Phillips, Erskine, Red Skull, Zola, Dugan, Gabe Jones, Jim Morita, Montgomery Falsworth, Jacques Dernier, and Howard Stark. So honestly its not much more than what we had there especially when a lot of the characters in the winter soldier will be regulated to flashbacks or minor roles (i.e. Peggy, Zola, and Sitwell)
     
    #56
  7. peterparker0077

    peterparker0077 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 13, 2001
    Messages:
    1,625
    Likes Received:
    0
    And many of those listed were never even mentioned by name in the film, and the GA has no idea who they are.
     
    #57
  8. TheVileOne

    TheVileOne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2002
    Messages:
    54,466
    Likes Received:
    76
    Just sounds like a lot of characters for a Captain America movie.
     
    #58
  9. ThePowerCosmic

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    18,394
    Likes Received:
    0

    Exactly, and that's something I hope TWS improves on. Calling people by their names and/or codenames.
     
    #59
  10. Webfoot Hero

    Webfoot Hero West Coaster

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2012
    Messages:
    10,980
    Likes Received:
    12
    But kind of necessary due to all the ones from the first move, save a for a few, are dead. Hard to have a lot of cast continuity when there's an 80 year jump from the first movie to the sequel.
     
    #60
  11. TheVileOne

    TheVileOne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2002
    Messages:
    54,466
    Likes Received:
    76
    Well umm Bucky is basically not going to have aged. Arnim Zola could be some type of mechanical monstrosity or cyborg now and could still "look" the same for a while. Obviously we are going to see a young Peggy in flashbacks. So I mean, that's still a lot of characters.
     
    #61
  12. ThePowerCosmic

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    18,394
    Likes Received:
    0

    That's four characters, and Peggy doesn't really count since she's in a possibly short flashback, unless they have old Peggy. C'mon, Vile.
     
    #62
  13. AgentEnforcer

    AgentEnforcer misses Ben Reilly.

    Joined:
    Dec 11, 2002
    Messages:
    1,318
    Likes Received:
    0
    Not sure if this picture made it here, saw it on another board.

    [​IMG]

    Evans in the new costume and Black Widow with straight hair.
     
    #63
  14. Webfoot Hero

    Webfoot Hero West Coaster

    Joined:
    Mar 28, 2012
    Messages:
    10,980
    Likes Received:
    12
    Yep, made it here, but mainly was discussed in the thread about CA's uniform.
     
    #64
  15. AnneFan

    AnneFan Hathaway #1

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2011
    Messages:
    22,051
    Likes Received:
    3
    I wonder if she'll have this look when she's in the costume as well? I wouldn't mind it, to be honest.
     
    #65
  16. Dark Raven

    Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2010
    Messages:
    46,760
    Likes Received:
    83
    Hey AnneFan, long time no see! :)
     
    #66
  17. AnneFan

    AnneFan Hathaway #1

    Joined:
    Aug 1, 2011
    Messages:
    22,051
    Likes Received:
    3
    Hello Raven. Yes, I'm still lurking around the forums here. Hope to engage with you more in the future.
     
    #67
  18. Dark Raven

    Dark Raven The Gal from Themyscira

    Joined:
    Apr 2, 2010
    Messages:
    46,760
    Likes Received:
    83
    Oh good. Thought you had disappeared.
     
    #68
  19. TheVileOne

    TheVileOne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2002
    Messages:
    54,466
    Likes Received:
    76
    Captain America
    Falcon
    Black Widow
    Nick Fury
    Winter Soldier
    Alexander Pierce
    Agent Hill
    Agent 13
    Arnim Zola
    Peggy Carter (flashbacks, whatever)
    Batroc

    C'mon what? That's a lot of characters to establish. It's more than four characters.

    I'm not saying it will be bad, but this will need to be a bigger movie than The First Avenger, that is my main point. It will need to be similar in scope to The Avengers and maybe almost as long. Maybe not 2 hours and 23 minutes, but say 2 hours 15 minutes.

    We don't want to see Falcon or Agent 13 as essentially minor characters like the Howling Commandoes or the Warriors Three were.
     
    #69
  20. ThePowerCosmic

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    18,394
    Likes Received:
    0
    When you say bigger, do you mean bigger than the Chitauri invasion in TA? I don't think the movie necessarily has to be bigger, but as long as the story and its characters are cohesive, everything should be fine.
     
    #70
  21. TheVileOne

    TheVileOne Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 3, 2002
    Messages:
    54,466
    Likes Received:
    76
    It has to have a bigger scope so there is enough room to breathe and characters aren't short-changed and just crammed in.
     
    #71
  22. ThePowerCosmic

    Joined:
    Aug 18, 2011
    Messages:
    18,394
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ah, I think I understand where you're coming from.
     
    #72
  23. Mr. Dent

    Mr. Dent Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 8, 2012
    Messages:
    8,941
    Likes Received:
    0
    Well obviously it's planning on being bigger. It's a conspiracy political thriller.
     
    #73
  24. JB-the-Hunter

    JB-the-Hunter Booty hunter

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2010
    Messages:
    4,309
    Likes Received:
    0
    NO, it really doesn't. This press release is the only thing you guys are going by. THAT'S IT! There has been way more evidence that she'll have a significant role but you guys just choose to ignore it.
     
    #74
  25. BullMcGiveny

    BullMcGiveny Probably Disagree

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2012
    Messages:
    2,940
    Likes Received:
    0
    The press release is a lot. Certainly enough.

    There's also the fact that she was cast two months before shooting began. Well after Crossbones and Falcon were cast.
     
    #75
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.

Share This Page

monitoring_string = "afb8e5d7348ab9e99f73cba908f10802"