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Captain America: Brave New World box office

Brave New World Worldwide Box Office?

  • >$1 Billion

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • $1 Billion

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • $900 Million

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • $800 Million

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • $700 Million

    Votes: 4 23.5%
  • $600 Million

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • $500 Million

    Votes: 2 11.8%
  • <$500 Million

    Votes: 9 52.9%

  • Total voters
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Will it be a box office red Hulk smash like Deadpool & Wolverine? Or underperform like Quantuamania, or do just fine like GOTG3 or worse flop, like The Marvels?

Hmmm I think the current box office projections are good considering without Chris Evans as Captain America. However this could easily be frontloaded and performed like Quantumania (which opened over $100 million in North America), but there aren't really big movies until Snow White opens. I'm curious if the reshoots increased their budget and if this needs at least $500 million to break even.
 
The extensive reshoots (more than one set reported) are going to skyrocket an already pinched budget due to all the Hulk characters and special effects. There's no way this movie will make its money back, the question is how much it's going to lose. If it is as messy as the reported test screenings suggest I suspect quite a lot.
 


It's actually doing better than at least I expected (although it will still have the second lowest opening for a Captain America film). It will need positive reception to pass 200M domestic. Legs tend to be pretty brutal nowadays if the quality isn't there.
 
The extensive reshoots (more than one set reported) are going to skyrocket an already pinched budget due to all the Hulk characters and special effects. There's no way this movie will make its money back, the question is how much it's going to lose. If it is as messy as the reported test screenings suggest I suspect quite a lot.

Quite recently Forbes reported that The Marvels' true budget was 307.4M and Quantumania's budget was 330.1M (both cost even more before the UK tax reimbursements).

What probably ballooned The Marvels' budget was that it had three rounds of reshoots (January 2022, August 2022 and April 2023) and the film was effectively in post-production for 2 years (principal photography wrapped November 25, 2021 and the film was released November 10, 2023).

Now, Quantumania wrapped principal photography pretty much at the same time as The Marvels and seemingly only had one round of reshoots (January 2023, one month before the film's release) that tacked on the happy ending but what doomed that movie's budget was that in October 2021 (when filming was still taking place), Marvel delayed it to July 2023 from February 2023 (at the time The Marvels was delayed to February 2023). But then in April of 2022, Marvel realized that Quantumania was further along than The Marvels and switched their release dates. But for the Quantumania crew this meant that they just lost 4 months of post-production time they thought they had. So they had to rush it (I remember one of the FVX people talking about it on twitter) and that obviously cost a ton of additional money.

To my knowledge Cap 4 has now had two rounds of reshoots. One during the summer of 2024, which was apparently quite extensive and another in November 2024. When you also consider that the film suffered a 7-month delay and was in post for 1.5 years then I'd expect a budget similar to The Marvels and Quantumania. Maybe slightly lower but a 300M budget is definitely not out of the question.
 
If word of mouth/reviews/RT rating/cinemascore aren't good. Expect this as another frontloaded Marvel movie.

Now I hope this movie is at least as good as The Marvels (which is still enjoyable despite its flaws), and not in the same level as Quantumania/Eternals. The reshoots better made the movie better, because if its still as bad as test screenings implied, then this could potentially be one of the worst mcu films to date. I don't think Marvel Studios have delayed a movie that was already filmed this long. The red flags are so easy to see if this movie turns out to be a mess next month.

The new clips/commercials aren't really do anything to me.
 
I do worry that all the re-shoots are going to be felt when watching the movie. There has to be 3-4 movies packed into this movie and editing has stitched together a single film out of it.

With the budget it likely has the film really needs to both start well and have legs. It'd be a shame if after Deadpool and Wolverine did so well that the next Marvel movie did poorly. Bit worrying when the most optimistic sounding box office predictions still have it not having a crazy strong start. But we will see!
 
If the movie is underwhelming, it won't have good legs. But if the movie is as good as the better MCU movies in the last 3 years, the movie might have legs. But I think MCU's golden days are over the moment The Marvels flopped. Disney+ is also a huge factor.

Its too bad though, the reshoots probably exceeded their planned budget for this. If it performs okay ($600 million globally), I'm not sure if thats enough to break-even?
 
It won’t perform $600m unless a major shift in presale pattern or a rare MCU leg happens. It’s more like $400m ish or $500m if all stars align, which while not making money, Disney shouldn’t be disappointed given the prevailing sentiment toward CBM in general and MCU outputs.
 
It won’t perform $600m unless a major shift in presale pattern or a rare MCU leg happens. It’s more like $400m ish or $500m if all stars align, which while not making money, Disney shouldn’t be disappointed given the prevailing sentiment toward CBM in general and MCU outputs.
POSITIVITY! (I think!)
 
22 days are a lot though for reshoots. I'm more concerned about what they took and added in, instead of the budget/recouping their money.
 

The RAMPANT misinformation surrounding Captain America: Brave New World​






 
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This is also another factor why the budget is less then 200 million.
Captain America: Brave New World Runtime Revealed, Sets New Record for the Movie Series
It looks like Captain America: Brave New World will shield its fans from a long watch when the Marvel Cinematic Universe blockbuster hits theaters. The upcoming superhero film gets a runtime confirmation, a historic one for the Captain America franchise. AMC Theatres updated its promotional poster for Brave New World, which makes its cinematic debut on Valentine's Day. The preview includes the sequel's official runtime of 1 hour and 58 minutes. The runtime is the shortest of any Captain America installment ever and continues Marvel's recent preference for shorter MCU films. Though Brave New World is the latest MCU movie to fall just under two hours, shorter hasn't necessarily meant better for Marvel entries during the Multiverse era. Thor: Love and Thunder and The Marvels are the two most recent examples, with Love and Thunder regarded as one of the most underwhelming MCU films, while the Captain Marvel sequel ($206.1 million worldwide) is the lowest-grossing film in the cinematic universe's 17-year history. Phase Five MCU films have an average runtime of 2 hours and 6 minutes, with the latest entry, Deadpool & Wolverine, hitting 2 hours and 8 minutes.


 
The credits could easily be 8 minutes, including the opening logos.

A legacy Captain America movie shouldn't be really that expensive. $120million-ish. Also, based from what we know of, there are only 2-3 returning actors from the previous MCU movies.
 
The credits could easily be 8 minutes, including the opening logos.

A legacy Captain America movie shouldn't be really that expensive. $120million-ish. Also, based from what we know of, there are only 2-3 returning actors from the previous MCU movies.
As you say, what we know of. There could be more people involved than we know.
 
Haven’t been that engaged on the BO side of things but from the very little I’ve seen it seems to me that they, the usual media outlets, keep changing the goalposts and lowering the predicted opening weekend. This might even have a semi decent opening but from what I’m seeing it will likely collapse straight afterwards.
 
Haven’t been that engaged on the BO side of things but from the very little I’ve seen it seems to me that they, the usual media outlets, keep changing the goalposts and lowering the predicted opening weekend. This might even have a semi decent opening but from what I’m seeing it will likely collapse straight afterwards.
I can see it performing like Quantumania. Big opening weekend. Big 2nd weekend drop. I wouldn't be surprised if it fails to miss the $500 million mark worldwide.
 
500 million is too generous of a prediction for this movie. I expect something in the 300+ area personally.
 
Actually the opening tracking is getting better and better, unless it’s a complete collapse after opening (don’t wish too hard), it should pass $300m. $500m its a tough bar but still possible, and if it does its not a shame at all.
 
Once again the late review embargo is very telling of how they’re looking at this, they’re trying to bulletproof the early box office result and they will likely succeed on the first weekend or at very least the first couple of days but once the word is out it will, like many other earlier projects, collapse on to itself…
 
I wonder how much this being a direct sequel to The Falcon and the Winter Soldier is going to affect the box office. A friend that I've seen several Marvel movies with was supposed to join us next week for a screening, but she figured that she wouldn't have the time to watch the show in advance, so she's skipping the movie theatrically. Not to mention, another friend isn't joining us because they're boycotting Disney. Through and through, it looks like Marvel is in for another bomb.
 
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