Captain America: Brave New World - News & Speculation Thread

[mace1]

Brave new world got a 78%,so that is 4 stars out of 5 stars on rt,so that is great.

The strongest area/part of phase 4 on average by the way is the shows,not the phase 4 movies.
I will post a update and breakdown for the RT critic and audience scores and average rating and comparing phase 4 with the past phases.
Below are meaning of ratings before i posts them.

For phases 1,2, 3 and 4.

RT SCORES

55% /10 to 64% /10- means good/ 3 stars
65%/10 to 74% /10- means very good-3 1/2stars
75%- /10 to 84% is great/4 stars
85%-/10 to 94% is really great/ 4 1/2 stars
95% /10 to 100% is excellent/ 5 stars

Average ratings

TrustScore and star rating explained
1.0/1.2- 1 star(bad)
1.3/1.7- 1.5 stars(bad)
1.8/2.2- 2 stars(poor)
2.3/2.7- 2.5 stars(so-so)
2.8/3.2- 3 stars(good)
3.3/3.7- 3.5 stars(very good)
3.8/4.2- 4 stars(great)
4.3/4.7- 4.5 stars(really great)
4.8/5.0- 5 stars(excellent)

A 75 to 84 rt score is 4 stars.
85 to 94 is 4 and half stars and 95 to 100 rt score is 5 stars.
65 to 74 rt score is 3 and half stars.
55 to 64 is 3 stars and thats mean good.
45 to 54 means 2 and half stars and that means so and so.
You get the point.

 

[mace1]

I can't speak that much for phase 5 yet but i could more so for phase 4.
Phase IV Projects 18 Audience Score 85.00% and Phase IV Projects 18 Critic Score 83.50%.
If we talking about cinemascore for the movies most in phase 4 are in A'S so the consensus is phase 4 was a hit and those who say it was not are a loud mouth minority on internet. Now phase 5 maybe the weakest phase so far but it's not over yet and still there is good projects in phase 5.
By the way phase 4 made the most money after phase 3 but it looks like phase 5 may make the least amount of money but like i said it's not over yet.

Phase 4 was never going to make has much money on average has phase 3.Here are some reasons. It's almost really starting over phase,there are alot new heroes,new story arc set-up,plus china was out of the picture for awhile and it box-office needs to be build back up and there is russia out the picture now and viewer habits change because of covid. Superhero tv shows these days no matter good will not get the audience like they have in the past plus disney mcu shows have done better on average then the competition and overall are doing good enough plus they will never the get audience like the movies,now over time more folks will go back to watch those shows for those who have not watch,most,some etc..


13 AMAZING TOMATOMETER STATS FOR THE MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE
WHICH PHASE RANKS BEST? WHICH CHARACTER IS FRESHEST? WHEN DID MARVEL HIT A ROUGH PATCH? WE BREAK IT DOWN.
May 5, 2022
1. THE AVERAGE TOMATOMETER AND AUDIENCE SCORES FOR THE ENTIRE MCU ARE NEARLY IDENTICAL
Average Audience Score: 81.88% | Average Tomatometer Score: 81.84%
The average Audience Score for every MCU film and show is 81.88%, while the average Tomatometer score is 81.84% — that is some consistency right there! The nearly identical scores are almost unheard of with individual films on Rotten Tomatoes, let alone when averaging out scores across 44 movies and TV series. Critics and fans: Assemble!
2. THE DISNEY+ SERIES HAVE THE HIGHEST TOMATOMETER AND AUDIENCE SCORE AVERAGES
In 2008, the MCU kicked off with Iron Man, which earned a 94% on the Tomatometer. In 2013, Marvel’s Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. debuted on the ABC network and earned a 95% on the Tomatometer. In 2015, Daredevil made its debut on Netflix and scored 89%. On January 15th, 2021, WandaVision continued the trend of critically acclaimed debuts when it premiered on Disney+ to the tune of 91% on the Tomatometer and began a run of shows on the streamer that currently boasts a 90.3% Tomatometer and 90.1% Audience Score average. The Falcon and the Winter Soldier, Loki, What If…?, Hawkeye, and Moon Knight have all impressed both audiences and critics, and together they have a higher critic and audience score average than the theatrically-released movies, Netflix shows, and other series released on ABC, Hulu and Freeform.
Tomatometer Averages
Disney+ Series: 90.3%
Theatrical Films: 83.5%
Netflix Series: 73.5%
ABC/Hulu/Freeform: 72.8%

Audience Score Averages
Disney+ Series: 90.1%
Theatrical Films: 83.7%
Netflix Series: 76.6%
ABC/Hulu/Freeform: 69.4%
*Note: The 2020 Hulu series Helstrom was not included in this data

13 Amazing Tomatometer Stats for the Marvel Cinematic Universe

Which phase ranks best? Which character is Freshest? When did Marvel hit a rough patch? We break it down.

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Some more talk about phase 4 below.
MCU To Make Sweeping Changes After Phase 4 Disappointment Claims Report
Here is some chat about this as well below

erikthered25 quote-
I'm sick of all this fan fiction surrounding phase 4. It took 14 years for Marvel fans to become just as nitpicky, entitled, and unsatisfiable as Star Wars fans lol I get it You didn't like some of the content, You don't have to. Some of the content did not totally link up together, so what. Feige has already said that was done by design to take some of the pressure off the fans and their creatives so they wouldn't have to watch everything that comes out. It was clear to me that the overarching theme was the rise of other heroes to fill the gap now that the avengers have been disbanded after The Infinity war saga. After such a successful 10 years this was the perfect time to do such a thing. I'm so glad Marvel isn't run like WB or else they would have canceled everything based on a few fan videos and Twitter complaints lol I personally enjoyed all of it. I enjoyed all the movies and TV shows. If you ask non MCU fans they enjoyer the movies they even enjoyed Thor love and thunder. It's only this very loud MCU vocal minority that's running around screaming the building is on fire. The Marvel Universe has gotten to the point where they're not living and dying on movies ergo they can now experiment, do different things, even reach for the sky and fail in order to figure out what works and what doesn't work. Phase IV was an experimental phase for the MCU. This experimental phase was needed in order to grow the brand. If you look at it that way you'd realize that phase four was much more successful than people give it credit for. People are saying with the Ant-Man trailer phase 5 looks like a return to form. It only looks like a return to form because phase four was the experimental phase and now they've returned to The old Marvel way of doing things. Phase 4 was a great phase. I believe folks Will eventually look back on phase four years later and see it was a pivotal time in the MCU and it was needed to push the MCU brand into different directions.
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Kris Hite quote-
This whole "everything has to fit together" thinking is the main problem. People have that mindset and it is just ruining everything. Yes the first 3 phases were leading to something, but even then alot of movies really had nothing to do with the ongoing plot outside of a post credit scene. Phase 4 was about setting up new heroes and villains for phase 5 and 6, but people have no patience for this
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Joshua Engelmann quote-
Phase Four was fine. It was just a very vocal minority that decided the MCU was over after Endgame that was the complainers. However it did feel like too many projects as much as I liked them all.
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Johnny82Utah quote-
It's funny I'm sure those who are complaining about the volume of projects in phase 4 were the ones clamoring for them to explore more things like phase 4 has. I'm certainly all for volume the more the better as far as I'm concerned as long as it stays true to what the MCU is as a whole. I disagree with John in that the connectivity is what makes the MCU special and can really enhance the experience. Spider-Man No Way Home bringing in the past Spider-Man films as Canon is not only fantastic as a viewer but gave a lot of hope as to what was to come.
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$tr@nq3 quote-
I have a few criticisms but over all I thought Phase 4 was awesome. It is the most creative and unique the superhero genre has ever been and for that alone I give Marvel so much props. All i can say is that I will be there for every show and movie they release.
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KrisK A Sass quote-
I have no complaints. I love Disney+ shows and cant wait for more. Bring it all !!
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BQNash quote-
What Marvel has accomplished during a pandemic is nothing short of amazing. I'm with them till the end of the line.
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SharpPieces quote-
Disney+ is the greatest gift to the MCU . Brought us stories and characters we would never see on the big screen
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KaosDrago quote-
Phase 4 has been my favorite and easily the best IMO
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Darnell quote-
Yeah I don’t really get the people complaining. If you haven’t liked most of the content lately that’s fine but, to act like phase 1 told us everything that was coming is some revisionist nonsense. Phase 1 was Thanos as big bad and infinity stones. Phase 4 is Kang as big bad and the multiverse. They’ve literally given the same amount of info. Just have to wait n see how it comes together

The multiverse saga is working and has worked. Most of the mcu movies and other projects after endgame have been hits,not missess when it comes to box office and viewership and on average most got positive rt scores from critics and audiences. So deadpool saying the mcu has been miss after miss is just copying what certain youtubers(grifters) was saying and of course they are wrong.Then you have nicepool who disagree with deadpool. Let's keep it mind from phase 1 to 3 projects like ironfist and inhumans came out and folks even back then talking about comicbook fatigue and marvel is losing it's touch etc.. and that's non-sense and of course that was not the case. Most mcu multiverse projects in phase 4 and 5 have been successful,from the last spiderman mcu movie,to doctor strange 2,to loki seasons 1 and 2,what if and deadpool and wolverine all done well. The only multiverse project to flop and get a rotten critic score (audience scores was really high but the cinemascore was a B)and to flop was ant-man 3 and even that made it's money back later that year after it left the big screen. Most of phase 4 and 5 are not multiverse projects anyway just like most projects from phase 1 to 3 were not dealing with the infinity stones. Most of the marvels movie is not multiverse and when they did show it was a end credit scene.

Deadpool And Wolverine Digital Release Announced And Why It Saved Marvel
thehacker4012 quote-
Sorry, but I think it's a phony narrative that Marvel needs "saving". You can't claim that Marvel projects like Echo was a piece of sh*t when that shows has 71% on RT. You can't claim that Marvel projects like She-Hulk is trash when the season finale received a 77%.

Also, Deadpool & Wolverine isn't loved by everyone even with its success with box office and general movie going audience.

The problem with "Marvel needs saving" narrative is that it founded on revisionist history of the MCU from phase 1 to phase 3 being the "golden era" when those phases of Marvel were also flawed.

Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
I think people have rose colored glasses of the 1st 3 phases of Marvel.
I love the Ant-Man films but that franchise has always been a almost self contained film series which isn't the blockbusters like the other MCU films.
While Iron Man was a massive hit, most feel the sequels never lived up to the 1st film.
Thor the Dark World is considered by most one of the weakest MCU films.
Even Age of Ultron wasn't overly praised upon release being seen not as good as Avengers 2012.
& until Infinity War Thanos did nothing.
Even the tv shows weren't as beloved as people seem to think when trashing the DisneyPlus shows. Agents of Shield was a mix bag, Inhumans was awful, Runaways and Cloak and Dagger were ok, and the Netflix shows while great also had some low points.
There was that getting rid of a interesting character and replacing them with a less interesting one mid season issue. Daredevil Season 2 Elektra was good, but Punisher from the 1st few episodes were the highlight, Cottonmouth dying definitely took the air out of season 1 of Luke Cage, Sigourney Weaver being killed off for Elektra in Defenders, Jessica Jones never was as good as Season 1 in later seasons, and Iron Fist was mediocre thanks to the lead. Punisher was the only one that was fine all the way thru although no committing to Jigsaw being a full villain was a letdown to me.
As for Phase 4 it's been about passing the torch to legacy characters or new ones and building up the Multiverse.
Black Widow was setting Yelena as a Black Widow and to a lesser extent with Falcon and the Winter Soldier and She-Hulk has been set ups for Thunderbolts. Speaking of Falcon and the Winter Soldier that was a set up for Sam as Cap. Hawkeye was setting up Kate Bishop to eventually replace Clint.
New characters Shang-Chi, Ms. Marvel, America Chavez, the Eternals, Black Knight, Agatha Harkness, Moonknight, Starfox, Hercules, Werewolf By Night, Man-Thing, and Elsa Bloodstone have all been introduced.
Loki, Dr. Strange 2, and No Way Home have all introduced the and expanded on the Multiverse.
& Wakanda Forever is setting up introducing Namor, Ironheart, and a new Black Panther.
I know I'm repeating myself but all the shows and films were either about setting up the Multiverse or introducing new characters with the exception of Love and Thunder which was just a fun Thor sequel yeah Jane's Mighty Thor was introduced but seemed to have been a one off. So there is a flow and it's definitely building the MCU up for the next Phase.
This Phase was very reminiscent of Phase 2. 2 great films Winter Soldier and GOTG, 2 okay films AOU and Ant-Man, and 2 of the lowest points Iron Man 3 and Thor the Dark World. The Phase introduced new characters Bucky as Winter Soldier, Falcon, Agent 13, Ant-Man, Wanda, Pietro, Vision, and the GOTG. While the big bad of Phase 3 did nothing but sit on chair and in a post credit scene claimed he'd do it himself and then wasn't seen again for 6 films.

HollowSage quote-
I agree with Jokerz79. The idea that the MCU from Iron Man to Endgame was this meticulously crafted master plan with no missteps until phase 4 is revisionist history.
Marvel has made mistakes. Fake Mandarin from IM3. The reason they are still successful is that they learn from mistakes and make changes. Real Mandarin in Shang-Chi.
Phase 4 is just growing pains from expanding the MCU. The more movies and shows they make and the more characters they introduce means that they won’t all be winners with everyone. However that expansion also means that there is more to choose from meaning that there is probably something for everyone.
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We Have A BIG PROBLEM... Marvel Studios Future Discussion

acolytesounds quote-
I think one of the big issues people may be facing is that the first phases focused on characters that people have already known for entire generations (Cap, Thor, Hulk, etc.) and when they finally debuted on screen people were happy to see them represented and integrated in such a way that blew the film industry away. Unfortunately real actors aren't ageless/immortalized like they can be in comics. All you do is reboot them with a new artist.. The MCU has the difficult challenge of bringing in all these lesser known newer* heroes and bringing them together in a similar way but since they are more unknown (Eternals, ShangChi, Kamala, etc.) it's harder to sell them and do them rral justice without a long slow buildup. And people just can't wait for that since they haven't been tried and tested over time like the core Avengers (or XMen) have. So as you mentioned, people really should be more patient and let Marvel work its magic. Have faith in the process. It's all going to come together so have fun on the journey.
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Cody Odom quote-
I'm still super stoked to see all of the upcoming marvel projects and to see where they're going. Also, I would hope that they wouldn't release and Avengers movie for at least 2 years, because if they did, it would most definitely be rushed and would probably be...not so good.
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Lokesh Jayanetti quote-
I believe that seeing all the heroes become the heroes they are meant to become before they go and save the world in a huge team up like Infinity War or Endgame. There needs to be a build ul before a massive project in order for it to actually work properly. Rushing into things only makes it messy and confusing.
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Madison Aiello quote-
I agree! People need to be more patient. I have fun just enjoying the new stuff that marvel is coming out with. And I’m totally okay if marvel takes their time building up to the next HUGE movie. I love that they’re doing so many different genres and diversifying their heroes. It will make that next movie even more fun and exciting.
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I feel like I'm the only one that still has faith in the MCU.

Cosmic Culture quote-
Me too!

Dark Gaming quote-
Same.

Jerome Valeska quote-
@landofthelost Shang-Chi, No Way Home, Loki, everyone’s raving about Thor: Love and Thunder. What are you talking about my man?

Thedude38356 quote-
I still have faith, and am excited for the future projects of the MCU.



Bob Saget quote-
The problem with the MCU is it has made nerds spoiled. Can you imagine going back twenty years ago, explaining the synopsis of something like Spider-Man: No Way Home or Dr.Strange ItMoM, and then telling comic book movie fans that people were *complaining* about the state of Marvel movies mere months after those came out?

 

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CAPTAIN AMERICA: BRAVE NEW WORLD (2025): B-

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CinemaScore Explained: What the Letter Grade Means

CinemaScore has become ubiquitous, but they can be confusing to those who don't know what's being measured and what those measurements mean.

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Captain America - The First Avenger: A-
Captain America - The Winter Solider: A
Captain America - Civl War (2016): A

Phase 4 & 5
Black Widow: A-
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings: A
Eternals: B
Spider-Man - No Way Home: A+
Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness: B+
Thor - Love and Thunder: B+
Black Panther - Wakanda Forever: A
Ant-Man and the Wasp - Quantumania: B
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3: A
The Marvels: B
Deadpool & Wolverine: A

Franchise Cinemascores tend to be inflated as they are measured at openings which is when the most percentage of hardcore fans show up.

Wow a B minus!

 

[mace1]

Some phase 4 and 5 talk.

THREAD: MARVEL PHASE 5 PROBLEM & CRITIQUE
Quote Originally Posted by The Kid View Post
Oversaturation is basically my issue. I feel like I'm mostly over the MCU until the next Spider-Man, FF, or Deadpool flick. Haven't seen Eternals, Thor 4, She-Hulk, or Ms. Marvel yet. Hell, I think I'm probably done with their Disney+ shows period since I found them all mediocre other than Wandavision. Just too much good television out there for me to be wasting my time with Marvel Studio's mediocre efforts on Disney+. I'll check out BP2 in theaters with my lady but the excitement is really gone. Endgame honestly just felt like a conclusion to me and only Spider-Man: NWH got me really excited since then.

Quote Originally Posted by Zero Hunter View Post
See what you call oversaturation I call trying to reach new demographics. They made shows like Ms. Marvel, She Hulk, Werewolf By Night, and Moon Knight to try and an appeal to not just Marvel fans but people outside that sphere. You can think something is mediocre but that doesn't mean it is to a lot of other people. I have honestly been pretty happy with the Disney+ Marvel shows. Some were better than others, but I have not walked away from any of them thinking "this show was just trash".

Quote Originally Posted by 80sbaby View Post
Exactly. Another aspect people seem to miss is that Marvel Studios makes superhero content, exclusively. They don't have the option of branching out beyond that, so they need increase their output if they want to grow as a company.

Quote Originally Posted by Jokerz79 View Post
I recently told someone who was a comic reader who was complaining about not liking most of Phase 4. Well do you read every Marvel Comic?
It's kind of narcissistic to think a studio would make everything catered to someone. People need to remember not ever comic or comic adaptation will be to their taste and that's ok because it will be to some else's.

Quote Originally Posted by 80sbaby View Post
Correct. The MCU is growing, just as the comic universe did. The problems some fans are having is coming to the realization that not everything is going to be for them.
And as far as the idea that the quality had dropped, again, this is revisionist. Phase 1 and 2 had varying degrees of quality. It was only Phase 3 that had hit after hit after hit.

Quote Originally Posted by HollowSage View Post
The quality of the Marvel movies have been criticized since Iron Man. This idea that the quality started off high and has only recently started to fall is some “good old days” nonsense. We were discussing all the same “problems” back then that we are here and now.
People were calling superhero fatigue after the first Avengers. The movies have always been criticized for vfx, especially the Hulk movies, and abundant use of cgi in general. The writing and plot holes were always coming under fire even in their biggest hits, how did all that time travel stuff with Cap work in Endgame?
The MCU is incredible but it has always been flawed. If people are only starting to see the cracks now then maybe they are consuming too much and the answer isn’t for Marvel to slow down and stop expanding. The answer is to just take a break and only engage with the parts of the MCU that interest you.
Is that so hard?
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Oh and some comments about the plot hole excuse.
Are 'plot holes' an excuse? - The Escapist
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I've noticed a trend of late. Whenever someone takes a dislike to a new film, the first point anyone seems to make is 'there were too many plot holes for me to enjoy the film'
What do you guys think? are new films subject to more plot holes than classic films, or do you think people are just looking to tare things down these days because everyone's a critic?

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From what I've seen, most 'plot holes that people find aren't really plot holes. Most of the time the 'plot holes' is really just a case of not paying attention, misunderstanding a key scene or just simply dislike a part of the movie/show/etc.
So I will have to say that it is a way of trying to tear down a movie. And that is part of the fairly recent issue of people disliking whatever is popular at the moment.

 

[mace1]

Kevin Feige Reveals What Marvel's Phase 4 Is Really All About

Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige reveals that while previous MCU phases didn't always have a theme, the current Phase 4 definitely does.
Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige seems to have things all figured out when it comes to the future of these massively popular comic book movies. Well, at the very least, he's extremely adept at making it look like he has it all figured out. As a result, the Marvel Cinematic Universe (which now includes their new Disney Plus shows like The Falcon and the Winter Soldier and now the rather "out with a whimper" series Loki), has a pretty clearly defined future as it powers through its 4th phase of projects, and it turns out they'll be sharing a bit of a theme.
While the Marvel Cinematic Universe hasn't always been under the same leadership, it's always been divided into phases right from the start. From the first Iron Man in 2008 all the way to Avengers: Endgame and beyond, every phase begins with some standalone films and ends with a big ensemble blowout with quips and banter aplenty. Phase 4's main difference so far is that it launched via several TV shows before premiering its first movie (the prequel film Black Widow), but now that it's in full swing, things are ready to really begin.
In a recent interview with Rotten Tomatoes, Feige clarified what he believes is the overarching theme of the MCU's current phase. "Truthfully, Phase Four was always about continuing in new ways and new beginnings," he explained. "Even with films that seemingly are concluding storylines, there are new beginnings within them." After 3 phases largely revolving around the same core cast of characters with the occasional newbie joining the fray, focusing entirely on the new kids might be exactly what the MCU needs to keep things fresh going forward.
The thing is, Feige normally doesn't subscribe to the idea of phases among the Marvel movies. Sure, they're rather clearly defined and tend to be unavoidable when there are so many stories being told. After all, when these many characters come together, there has to be some kind of order to the chaos in order for any of it to make sense. But his focus seems to be more on the stories themselves rather than the bigger picture. Even so, he acknowledges the undeniable fact that these new upcoming films will share a common theme.
While there have been plenty of longer-running franchises out there, Marvel as a whole has all the others beat when it comes to the sheer volume of projects under its banner. To put it in perspective, imagine if every single James Bond movie ever made had come out in the span of just over a decade rather than the 60-year history it currently boasts. Even then, Marvel would quickly have it beat, with highly anticipated movies like Shang-Chi and similarly awaited shows like She-Hulk looming on the horizon.
Even though Marvel is pretty much as mainstream as it gets nowadays, it's still accomplished one heck of a feat (or several, if each phase is its own feat, because getting annoyingly technical is fun). Some might be experiencing some burnout on the series, but the idea of focusing almost entirely on new beginnings, as Feige said, might be exactly what the franchise needs to keep people interested. If not, then there's always Star Wars for those who'd rather complain about other things.

Kevin Feige Reveals What Marvel's Phase 4 Is Really All About

The Marvel Cinematic Universe has always been divided into "phases," but while they haven't always had a theme, the current 4th phase definitely does.

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Kevin Feige Says the Post-‘Avengers 4’ MCU May Be a “New Thing”, Not “Phase 4"

Kevin Feige Says MCU After Avengers 4 May Not Be Phase 4

Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige teases a "very different" MCU after 'Avengers 4', adding that he's not even sure they'll call it "Phase 4".

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KEVIN FEIGE BREAKS DOWN THE MCU'S PHASE 4 SO FAR: WANDAVISION, FALCON, LOKI, AND BLACK WIDOW
IN THIS EXCLUSIVE, THE PRESIDENT OF MARVEL STUDIOS REFLECTS ON HOW ENDGAME GAVE US HOPE IN THE PANDEMIC, THE EVOLUTION OF THE MCU ON DISNEY+, AND WHEN WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE KATHRYN HAHN AND FLORENCE PUGH BACK IN THIS UNIVERSE.

Kevin Feige Breaks Down the MCU's Phase 4 So Far: WandaVision, Falcon, Loki, and Black Widow

In this exclusive extended interview, the president of Marvel Studios reflects on how Endgame gave us hope in the pandemic, the evolution of the MCU on Disney+, and when we can expect to see Kathryn Hahn and Florence Pugh back in this universe.

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Kevin Feige Says Marvel Studios Phase 4 Is About New Beginnings

Kevin Feige Says Marvel Studios Phase 4 Is About New Beginnings
Marvel Studios' "Phase Four" lineup of original content is already drastically different from the three that preceded it in two major ways: 1. It's only slated to be about two years long rather than three or four; and 2. It expands beyond movies and includes Disney+ original shows. After multiple COVID-19 delays we're finally in the thick of their plans with three shows behind us and one movie in the wind, and Marvel Studios is keeping their "foot on the gas" as company head Kevin Feige says in a new interview. He also offered some perspective on the theme of Phase Four.
"You know the definition of phases often evolve with the phases and often I leave up to writers and journalists to decide, that's for the film historians to tell us what the phases were about," Feige told Rotten Tomatoes. "Truthfully Phase Four was always about continuing in new ways and new beginnings, even with films that seemingly are concluding storylines there are new beginnings within them and that was what was most exciting to us about the opportunity to make shows for Disney+, about all of us at Marvel Studios choosing to continue past Endgame and past Far From Home and leaving the Infinity Saga behind to a new beginning."
He continued, "That I think is what people will be looking at Phase Four, I hope, as having accomplished. But we're in the middle of it now so it remains to be seen, we don't take our foot off the gas, we don't take anything for granted, and we all work extremely hard to deliver."
The next two years on Marvel's schedule is absolutely stacked with the announced releases including: Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings on September 3, 2021, Eternals on November 5, 2021, Spider-Man: No Way Home on December 17, 2021, Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness on March 25, 2022, Thor: Love and Thunder on May 6, 2022, Black Panther: Wakanda Forever on July 8, 2022, The Marvels on November 11, 2022, Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania on February 17, 2023, and Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3 on May 5, 2023.
Disney+ shows in the works from Marvel that will arrive over the next couple of years include the animated What If...? on August 11, 2021, Ms. Marvel and Hawkeye in late 2021, Moon Knight, She-Hulk, Secret Invasion, and The Guardians of the Galaxy Holiday Special in 2022, and Ironheart, Armor Wars, and the Untitled Wakanda series, which are without release windows.

Kevin Feige Says Marvel Studios Phase 4 Is About New Beginnings

Marvel Studios’ “Phase Four” lineup of original content is already drastically different from the three that preceded it in two major ways: 1. It’s only slated to be about two years long rather than three or four; and 2. It expands beyond movies and includes Disney+ original shows. After...

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ConflictStar quote-
I fear that Marvel Studios is starting to get to the dreaded "Star Wars Level" of audience expectation, where they have less and less room for a project to just be OK. Everyone expects everything to be the "best thing ever" and if it fails to meet that bar, suddenly it's "absolutely awful".
J quote-
Yuppp I've been seeing that with many fans since Endgame
Britt Bebop quote-
Right they are so ungrateful *♀ Marvel single-handedly helped us all get through this pandemic & no other studios care as much as Feige does

Phase 5
List of Marvel Cinematic Universe television series

Series approach
Feige described Marvel Studios' approach to their television series in January 2021, explaining that streaming on Disney+ gave Marvel Studios flexibility with the formats for each series. He said some were being developed as "one off" miniseries that were intended to lead into feature films,though additional seasons could be added to these in the future. Other series were always intended to cover multiple seasons while still being connected to the films, such as Loki.These could have several years between the release of seasons, similar to series like Game of Thrones and Stranger Things. Feige added that each miniseries or season was intended to be around six hours of content, but this would be split in different ways depending on the story being told, such as six hour-long episodes, or nine or ten half-hour episodes.Marvel Studios' earliest series were directed by a single person, but later series have multiple directors taking on different numbers of episodes. Feige said this happened due to a combination of logistics, the needs of each story, and the studio's "own internal learnings of making longform television". He said the studio would continue varying the number of directors on future series as needed.

Marvel Studios uses the term "head writer" instead of the traditional showrunner title, since they approach their television series as if they were six hour-long films. They encourage the series' directors to be in the writers room and part of the creative process (much like the feature films) in addition to Feige and the Marvel Studios executives assigned to each series. This approach was confirmed by WandaVision head writer Jac Schaeffer, The Falcon and the Winter Soldier director Kari Skogland, and Loki season one director Kate Herron, with Skogland describing the approach as "effective and efficient" since the series are too much for a single showrunner to take on. Despite the head writer term, each series has multiple writers and a writers room that the head writer leads, and they also use "created for television by" credits for the head writers. Explaining the decision-making process and hierarchy for Marvel Studios' first three series, Loki season one head writer Michael Waldron said the head writer of each series would have final say on creative decisions before filming began. At that point, the series shifted to a "more feature centric model" where the director takes on the role that a traditional showrunner might have and has the final say for creative decisions while on set and in post-production,with the head writer still present on set for any necessary rewrites and during post-production.

Following the release of the Phase Four series, Feige said Marvel Studios was open to experimenting with more episodic series rather than each series always having a larger story split into episodes; he pointed to Daredevil: Born Again as a particular example where they would try this. Echo (2023) will be the first series released in its entirety on one day after all previous Marvel Studios series had weekly releases.

 

[donuts]

Lots of blabbing which amounted to ... what exactly?

 

[Spider-Fan]

78% audience score on RT isn't great, as reflected by the B- Cinemascore

 

[Venom 1988]

Lots of blabbing which amounted to ... what exactly?

No idea, his posts come across like he's a bot.

 

[mace1]

Brave new world and maybe thunderbolts is the last movie/s in the mcu before the course correction,so how they do things etc..will be different anyway after it.



Course Correction for MCU started in 2024 so brave new world was already done before this new course correction.
5 Major Ways the MCU Is Course Correcting in 2025

https://movieweb.com/mcu-course-corrections-2025-and-beyond/

 

[mace1]

RT scores is not the same as cinemascore.They have different rules on what is great or not.This was explain in a couple of video i have seen as well.
So a B for cineamescore is not a B in a classroom for example.
On RT a 75 and up is great,really great and excellent.

 

[Spider-Fan]

RT scores is not the same as cinemascore.They have different rules on what is great or not.This was explain in a couple of video i have seen as well.
So a B for cineamescore is not a B in a classroom for example.
On RT a 75 and up is great,really great and excellent.

That's not actually true for how to measure the RT audience %. If you score below say 85%, and that's generous, your movie has a mixed reception. And yes, RT score isn't the same as Cinemascore. Cinemascore is way more accurate.

 

[mace1]

When you go to RT on google and type in rt score you see a star syetem 1 to 5 stars.
4 stars is starting with a 75% and 4 star out of 5 is great.
RT has a different rating scale/sytem then cinemascore.
Here is a more detail explanation cineamscore vs RT scores.

Is cinemascore the same as rt scores?


No, CinemaScore is not the same as RT scores (Rotten Tomatoes scores); while both measure movie reception, CinemaScore gauges audience reaction on opening night through letter grades, whereas RT scores aggregate professional critic reviews, providing a percentage based on positive reviews.

CinemaScore measures audience response, while RT scores reflect critic opinions.

Rating system:

CinemaScore uses letter grades (A+, A, B+, etc.), while RT scores are a percentage.

Data collection:

CinemaScore surveys audiences on opening night, while RT gathers reviews from professional critics.


Generative AI is experimental.

 

[donuts]

TLDR version: Marvel will be fine. The next movies both look very good.

 

[Spider-Fan]

When you go to RT on google and type in rt score you see a star syetem 1 to 5 stars.
4 stars is starting with a 75% and 4 star out of 5 is great.
RT has a different rating scale/sytem then cinemascore.
Here is a more detail explanation cineamscore vs RT scores.

Is cinemascore the same as rt scores?

No, CinemaScore is not the same as Rotten Tomatoes (RT) scores or The Hollywood Reporter's scores; while all measure movie reception, CinemaScore specifically focuses on audience reactions by giving letter grades based on surveys conducted on opening night, whereas RT aggregates professional critics' reviews, and The Hollywood Reporter provides its own critical analysis alongside other information about a film.

Key Differences:

Source of Reviews:

CinemaScore gets feedback directly from audience members in theaters, while RT and The Hollywood Reporter rely on professional critics.

Rating System

CinemaScore uses letter grades (A-F), while RT and The Hollywood Reporter typically use a percentage scale.


Focus:

CinemaScore primarily indicates potential for "word-of-mouth" marketing based on initial audience response, whereas RT and The Hollywood Reporter provide a more comprehensive critical perspective.


Generative AI is experimental.

There is how the system is technically designed and then there is how it actually works. In actual practice, getting a 78% isn't good. And again, Cinemascore lines up far better with the BO legs movies have . So that B- it got strongly indicates bad legs.

This ain't my first rodeo amigo. I have only been watching this stuff since like 2001. I know what I am talking about

 

[Mr. Peanut]

When you go to RT on google and type in rt score you see a star syetem 1 to 5 stars.
4 stars is starting with a 75% and 4 star out of 5 is great.
RT has a different rating scale/sytem then cinemascore.
Here is a more detail explanation cineamscore vs RT scores.

Is cinemascore the same as rt scores?


No, CinemaScore is not the same as RT scores (Rotten Tomatoes scores); while both measure movie reception, CinemaScore gauges audience reaction on opening night through letter grades, whereas RT scores aggregate professional critic reviews, providing a percentage based on positive reviews.

CinemaScore measures audience response, while RT scores reflect critic opinions.

Rating system:

CinemaScore uses letter grades (A+, A, B+, etc.), while RT scores are a percentage.

Data collection:

CinemaScore surveys audiences on opening night, while RT gathers reviews from professional critics.


Generative AI is experimental.

So are you generating posts with AI? What's your deal, bro?

 

[mace1]

What is a CinemaScore? - Cinemascore

For over 40 years, CinemaScore has been measuring movie appeal by polling moviegoer reactions to major movie releases. The company calculates its “CinemaScore” movie grades for major movie releases in the U.S. and Canada by polling a regionally-balanced and statistically robust sample of opening...

www.cinemascore.com

How Does CinemaScore Work? Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb, and Metacritic Explained

"Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes" seems like the go-to marketing campaign line for most films, big and small, these days, but what does that little number

discussingfilm.net

 

[psylockolussus]

Does user ratings in RT even matters? Because I just ignore that from the beginning, and just pay attention to the score from the critics. Its kinda like Imdb to me.

If I want to see some sort of score/metric/rating from the public, I'd look at cinemascore if it's available.

 

[mace1]

So are you generating posts with AI? What's your deal, bro?

It's a Similar explanation i seen elsewhere.

 

[Mr. Peanut]

It's a Similar explanation i seen elsewhere.

So you're just copy and pasting stuff?

 

[mace1]

Percentage based:
Rotten Tomatoes calculates a percentage of positive reviews, called the "Tomatometer," which means a 75% score represents a high rating.


Star system comparison:
A 4-star rating out of 5 is generally considered a very good rating, aligning with the positive interpretation of a 75% on Rotten Tomatoes.


Rotten tomatoes uses the 1 to 10 system or 1 to 100. A 75 IS GREAT.
Translated into into a star system would be 4 stars out 5.

 

[Spider-Fan]

What is a CinemaScore? - Cinemascore

For over 40 years, CinemaScore has been measuring movie appeal by polling moviegoer reactions to major movie releases. The company calculates its “CinemaScore” movie grades for major movie releases in the U.S. and Canada by polling a regionally-balanced and statistically robust sample of opening...

www.cinemascore.com

How Does CinemaScore Work? Rotten Tomatoes, IMDb, and Metacritic Explained

"Certified Fresh on Rotten Tomatoes" seems like the go-to marketing campaign line for most films, big and small, these days, but what does that little number

discussingfilm.net

Lol, you keep copying stuff but you're not interpreting the data correctly. That's your problem. Just reading what it is didn't tell you what it means. I have been watching this stuff for years, bro

 

[mace1]

Lol, you keep copying stuff but you're not interpreting the data correctly.

I did.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I did.

You think a 78% audience score is good for a 4 quadrant blockbuster. So no, you're not

 

[mace1]

You think a 78% audience score is good for a 4 quadrant blockbuster. So no, you're not

So you saying a 78% is bad?
I Strongly disagree.
It's a great score.
We just have to agree to disagree.