Captain America: Brave New World - News & Speculation Thread

[Venom 1988]

So you saying a 78% is bad?
I Strongly disagree.
It's a great score.
We just have to agree to disagree.

Quoting from another thread but these pics sum it up.

That’s actually a really bad audience RT score for opening weekend. CinemaScore’s not gonna be good.

EDIT: Luiz explains it well -

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[Spider-Fan]

So you saying a 78% is bad?
I Strongly disagree.
It's a great score.
We just have to agree to disagree.

You can believe whatever you want to believe, but I know what the data looks like for a successful 4 quadrant blockbuster, and a 78% audience score and B- Cinemascore is 99 times out of 100 bad. Unless you have something like Venom that behaves like a cult film or horror movie more than a blockbuster. Blockbusters want a A- Cinemascore or better and above 90% audience on RT. Worse than that usually means it will sink like a stone

 

[DyeLorean]

Am I in a f****** AI chat bot session about percentages and random scores? What is going on here?

 

[donuts]

Anyway, regardless of how this film Is received, I Hope that they don't change things around as far as Sam's role in the Avengers goes.

Let's hope that Marvel and Disney wont be reactionary.

 

[Mysteryman]

The lack of narrative build is why they're paying RDJ 100 million dollars. So they can bank on nostalgia to make up for garbage story. I have a feeling Doomsday is gonna make people long for Age of Ultron

Hey, I Liked, AOU!

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[DyeLorean]

Age of Ultron is the only Avengers movie from start to finish. It's a team movie all the way through. It has aged like fine wine.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Hey, I Liked, AOU!

Oh, I did too. But it historically is the one people hated on. I have said for years it's maybe the most underrated MCU movie. I feel like once Doomsday comes out, people will appreciate it even more

 

[Lily Adler]

Oh, I did too. But it historically is the one people hated on. I have said for years it's maybe the most underrated MCU movie. I feel like once Doomsday comes out, people will appreciate it even more

Underutilizing James Spader's talent, being unable to call Pietro and Wanda mutants, and Ant-Man not being introduced to tease his new film were just a few. Although, I could leave the wife beating story arc in the comics.

 

[BobJM]

Though I liked Leader here, it actually would have been great seeing him make his MCU return earlier as the secret villain pulling the strings in AOU—have him somehow plant the Ultron seed for Stark & Banner.

 

[Lily Adler]

Though I liked Leader here, it actually would have been great seeing him make his MCU return earlier as the secret villain pulling the strings in AOU—have him somehow plant the Ultron seed for Stark & Banner.

I remember the speculation that The Leader had manipulated incel guy to steal She-Hulk's gamma blood so he can make the pills for Ross, but of course Marvel went stupid with it.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Underutilizing James Spader's talent, being unable to call Pietro and Wanda mutants, and Ant-Man not being introduced to tease his new film were just a few. Although, I could leave the wife beating story arc in the comics.

Ultron not being tied to Ant-Man didn't bother me. In the context of the movie, it works just fine. As for not calling Wanda and Pietro mutants, who cares. They're gonna be mutants now.

 

[Lily Adler]

Ultron not being tied to Ant-Man didn't bother me. In the context of the movie, it works just fine. As for not calling Wanda and Pietro mutants, who cares. They're gonna be mutants now.

I cared back then. Why the hell would I bring it up.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I cared back then. Why the hell would I bring it up.

Yeah but it isn't like their status as mutants or not mattered within the story and other media are making them mutants, so this to me is a non issue

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

You can believe whatever you want to believe, but I know what the data looks like for a successful 4 quadrant blockbuster, and a 78% audience score and B- Cinemascore is 99 times out of 100 bad. Unless you have something like Venom that behaves like a cult film or horror movie more than a blockbuster. Blockbusters want a A- Cinemascore or better and above 90% audience on RT. Worse than that usually means it will sink like a stone

Yeah franchise films with preexisting fan audiences get inflated scores at openings because that’s when their representation shows up the most. They preorder tickets.

According to this guy’s research from a couple of years ago only 28% of all scored movies receive a score of B- or lower.

 

[mace1]

Captain America: Brave New World's Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score Debuts Higher Than Chris Evans' First MCU Movie​

Despite poor critics' reviews, Captain America: Brave New World's audience score has surpassed Captain America: The First Avenger on Rotten Tomatoes. The MCU's fourth Captain America installment has received negative criticism for its overstuffed plot, its similarities to previous MCU movies, and the main character's barebones character arc. Yet, Captain America: Brave New World is tracking to be a moderate box office success, and it lays sturdier foundations for future projects than many Phase 4 and Phase 5 titles.

Captain America: Brave New World's reviews have delineated clear flaws that previous Captain America movies didn't have, earning the movie lower critics and audience scores than previous installments. However, Captain America: Brave New World's audience score suggests that, despite its weaknesses, the film doesn't fail to meet general audiences' expectations as much as MCU flops such as Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania, Eternals, and Secret Invasion, all of which were criticized for not fulfilling the full potential of their premises and having little impact on the franchise. By Captain America: Brave New World's ending, everything the trailers promised is delivered.

https://screenrant.com/captain-america-brave-new-world-rotten-tomatoes-audience-score-comparison/

While 79% is a great audience score for brave new world there is another score folks do not focus on too much but it's important too.
The average rating below the popcornmeter audience score.

Captain America: Brave New World
4 out of 5 Rating
That is a great score as well.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Captain America: Brave New World's Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score Debuts Higher Than Chris Evans' First MCU Movie​

https://screenrant.com/captain-america-brave-new-world-rotten-tomatoes-audience-score-comparison/

While 79% is a great audience score for brave new world there is another score folks do not focus on too much but it's important too.
The average rating below the popcornmeter audience score.

Captain America: Brave New World
4 out of 5 Rating
That is a great score as well.

Are you some kind of bot or a Marvel Studios plant or something. Lol! Sorry amigo. You can't really spin these numbers to be good. Only thing that can would be if the movie has strong legs in subsequent weekends, but I see no data points indicating that it will. But your article posting reeks of bot or studio shill

 

[mace1]

Some more great news like the audience rt score and average rating.

Captain America 4 Box Office Projections Increase After Strong Opening Day

Thanks to a strong opening day, Captain America: Brave New World box office projections have improved for this weekend. According to Deadline, the latest installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is estimated to gross $40 million domestically in its first day, setting the stage for a debut of anywhere between $95-109 million over the extended four-day Presidents’ Day holiday weekend. The outlet notes that Disney is being more conservative in its own projections, estimating Brave New World will bring in $90-96 million. Either result would be the highest box office opening of 2025 so far.

Brave New World did not benefit from enthusiastic word-of-mouth, as reviews for the film were mixed. Its Rotten Tomatoes critics score is actually one of the lowest in the long history of the MCU, with some people feeling that the storytelling fell flat despite strong performances from the principal cast. That reception might have had some impact on its ticket sales.

Even the high end of Brave New World‘s opening weekend projections wouldn’t top what Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania made over Presidents’ Day weekend two years ago ($120.3 million), but that doesn’t mean Captain America 4 isn’t a commercial success. With a production budget of $180 million, Brave New World was less expensive to make than many recent Marvel movies, meaning it’s in solid position to turn a nice profit. Not only is it 2025’s first major studio tentpole, it arguably won’t face much direct competition until Snow White opens in March. That gives it an extended runway to run relatively unopposed, though there still will be some interesting projects — like Bong Joon-ho’s Mickey 17 — debuting during that time.

Captain America 4 Box Office Projections Increase After Strong Opening Day

Thanks to a strong opening day, Captain America: Brave New World box office projections have improved for this weekend. According to Deadline, the latest installment in the Marvel Cinematic Universe is estimated to gross $40 million domestically in its first day, setting the stage for a debut of...

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[KevTravels]

So why again wasn't The Falcon and the Winter Soldier made as a movie instead of as a 4th Cap film?

 

[MagnarTheGreat]

Captain America: Brave New World's Rotten Tomatoes Audience Score Debuts Higher Than Chris Evans' First MCU Movie​

https://screenrant.com/captain-america-brave-new-world-rotten-tomatoes-audience-score-comparison/

While 79% is a great audience score for brave new world there is another score folks do not focus on too much but it's important too.
The average rating below the popcornmeter audience score.

Captain America: Brave New World
4 out of 5 Rating
That is a great score as well.

Screen rant is comparing apples and pears.

Rotten Tomatoes - All audience ratings

Captain America - The First Avenger: 75% 7.6
Captain America - Brave New World: 75% 7.6

RT added verified scoring I think around 6 years ago, long after The First Avenger came out.

By verified standards Brave New World is below average for Phase 4 & 5 Marvel.

 

[KevTravels]

I wanna see more of Torres going forward.

 

[DyeLorean]

So why again wasn't The Falcon and the Winter Soldier made as a movie instead of as a 4th Cap film?

Someone should edit that show into a 2-hour movie. If it isn't already out there somewhere.

 

[TheVileOne]

I think Feige’s biggest misstep in the Multiverse Saga are aimless post-credits— a 2-3 minute scene can do a lot to push the narrative forward and connect characters. They should have all been majorly focused on the multiverse and the incoming incursion. Then the rest should focus solely on Val recruiting the Thunderbolts* (or check-ins on those characters) since that’s the next team-up.

We can criticize the shortcomings of each entry in the MCU post-Endgame (and there are many), but some cohesion goes a long way to smooth the rough patches. It’s a shame they haven’t realized this.

And they’ve got a whole streaming platform to pump out One-Shots. The One-Shots pre-Avengers were exposition-heavy with a little action, doing backflips to make the narrative hold. Surely Benedict Wong, our Sorcerer Supreme, can be our new Coulson. He always seems game to make appearances.

Yup that one in Eternals is just bad. Why are we supposed to get embodied about a disembodied voice? We are told later it's Blade but we don't even see him. When this started with Fury in Iron Man, we actually see Samuel L. Jackson as Nick Fury and he introduces himself and he mentions the Avengers.

 

[Zyraquis]

I can only speak for myself as a non comic reading movie goer. Once the MCU is rebooted and may or may not have interconnection, that’s when I stop going to cinema seeing them. Part of the entailment value lies not just the movies but also I know the characters where they came from the situation they were in who they had a relation with. Taken that part out, the movies lose a lot of draw for me. I don’t think I want to invest in and follow another universe anew; there are plenty of better movie and entertainment options out there.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Things cut from this movie I want to know more about: 1. Who was the funeral for (Ross?)? 2. What was Rosa Salazar's character doing in the movie?