Captain America: Brave New World rate & review

[psylockolussus]

For those who are seeing it in less than 24 hrs, tomorrow Wednesday.

This is a non-spoiler review thread. Use the spoiler tags if you want to mention spoilers in your review.

 

[Carlo Comicus]

Saw it today here in Italy. Good movie, not at the level of Winter Soldier, in my opinion, but good.
Basically a sequel to The Incredible Hulk, and I was pleased with that.
Good performance from Mackie and the dynamic with Ramirez was really good.
Ford excellent.
The visual rendering of the Leader was good and I also liked the villain.
Flaws, in my opinion, in the choreography of some sequences of hand-to-hand combat. Here too, not at the level of the second movie. But in any case the fight between Cap and Red Hulk is well done, and worth the price of the ticket.

 

[Link]

There's something deeply unsatisfying about the structure of this film. Whoever thought that making a sequel to The Incredible Hulk without the Hulk was a good idea? An even bigger problem is that Anthony Mackie's Captain America still doesn't feel like a solid lead. That's almost entirely on the writing, Mackie is given no depth or even much of a personal storyline. This is all about Thunderbolt Ross, now played by Harrison Ford with a distinctly different take on the character. He's quite fun in the movie, but he feels like a brand-new Ross, which doesn't entirely work with this being a big culmination of the character's journey. The villain is fine, as are the numerous supporting characters that all get a tiny slice of the messy cake that is Brave New World. This is unfortunately another directionless, run-of-the-mill entry in the MCU. 9876 films into the franchise, I'm getting increasingly tired of mediocrity when these people are equipped with a bountiful toy box of decades of comics and characters to play with. This felt like a waste of time, but not bad enough to be memorable.

 

[BobJM]

This was a fun blockbuster thriller; I actually enjoyed it for the most part.

But, at certain points in the film, it’s egregiously obvious that there were reshoots and there were moments where actors were simply cut-and-paste over a green screen into the scene—but I still had fun watching nonetheless. It’s an intriguing story. Had they established this final plot & action beats ahead of filming, I think this would be much better received.

I loved that this movie was a quasi-sequel to The Incredible Hulk, and it never hides from that. It seemed random to me that this would play out in a Cap film but then I remembered Ross’s history with Wilson in Civil War, the last entry in this franchise. Tim Blake Nelson was awesome IMO; a real stand-out villain for the MCU. Really enjoyed the adaptation and excited for future appearances. And Harrison Ford was good too, even if I wanted him to sport the mustache.

Anthony Mackie has never been better as Wilson than he was here IMO (and it was fun to see Bucky for a cameo). He’s really made the role his own and I’d gladly take another Cap film with him in the lead. Danny Ramirez was good too. Giancarlo Esposito is always a fun villain but I think he was miscast here. It just seemed first-thought.

I don’t know, call me crazy, but I really enjoyed this. It felt like a fun, throwback 90s thriller. It may have had a troubled production but they found the story during the shoot. I just wish they had a stronger director at the helm or tighter script to begin with. But a solid film nonetheless and one I’m excited to rewatch on Disney+.

 

[Kev4000]

I thought this would be a disaster but it turned out very solid. Nothing groundbreaking but I had a good time.

Pros:
- Harrison Ford
- I really like the new Falcon suit
- Air Action and Hulk Action scenes were pretty cool
- Sam and Isaah interactions

Cons:
- Score was weak
- Cinematography was off sometimes
- Anthony Mackie is better here, but he has no lead character energy around him
- Can we pls stop to use

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mind control

in movies? Im tired.

 

[The Caped Knight]

This is the 35th film in the MCU, and yet it doesn’t feel like a cinematic experience instead it felt like a bonus episode of Falcon and the Winter Soldier, mixed with a sequel to the Incredible Hulk without Bruce Banner/Hulk present.

Honestly I had no confidence in this film from the moment it was announced. I felt it wasn’t justified and after seeing it. I’m convinced that the higher ups at Marvel took a gamble that they didn’t fully believe in. So much so they course changed this narrative to promote The Red Hulk as the star attraction to grab audience attention in the marketing campaign.

Is this film good? No, it a mix bag of too many plot threads that they are trying to wrap up, while laying new pieces down for the future. Overall I was underwhelmed and left feeling unsatisfied.

4.8/10

 

[Spider-Fan]

I sort of agree that it feels like a 2nd season of Falcon & Winter Soldier, but it also is mercifully shorter lol! One of the biggest complaints of the D+ shows is that they're movies stretch to 4 or 5 hrs. Here, it's a D+ show that wasn't stretched. So I would definitely watch this over Falcon & Winter Soldier again.

 

[Another_Fool]

I actually thought this was a solid film. Not spectacular by any means and certainly my least favorite of the Captain America films. It's sloppy at parts, and dialogue is rough when it comes to exposition but I think the thing this movie has going for it is that it felt like it was covering essential things that will be important to the MCU as a whole. Just execution wasn't totally there.

Another thing that helps it is I enjoy The Incredible Hulk and it was pretty awesome to see some things from that film play out here.

I had a good time.

 

[Superhero 101]

Like I said in previous thread it isn’t a bad film but it could have been much better it was entertaining enough if you can get past all the messiness in the story and if ur a MCU fan go give it a shot definitely not a high tier movie like Winter Soldier Civil War Black Panther Infinity war or Endgame more on the lower levels like iron man 3 dark world and age of ultron and GOTG2

I gave it a 6/10

 

[inomilan]

I liked it! Good film but of course it will never reach the heights of the original trilogy. The highlight for me was Harrison Ford's Thunderbolt Ross, he had such great character development here. Sam's Cap was definitely different from Steve's Cap and while i liked it and understand that he is a good person and I shouldn't compare him to Steve, but I like Steve's Cap more. The fight with the jets and the fight with Red Hulk were the highlights for sure, but I felt that the hand to hand combat scenes were not as memorable as the Winter Soldier's scenes. I loved the political thriller feel of this movie but you really can tell which parts were reshot with the amount of exposition they were doing. The main villain's appearance and actions were great IMO, wish we see that character more in the future. The new falcon is. . . okay.

Overall, I'm starting to think that the MCU is really a victim of its own past success. If this were a phase 1 or 2 film, I think critics would probably be kinder to it, as I think the RT score is pretty low to how I felt the movie was. I still think this was a solid film, not great of course but not all films need to be, and it's definitely way better than the worst MCU films. Or maybe I'm too biased as a fan or just not cutout to be a film critic lol (context: I find all the MCU films so far to be watchable and enjoyable and I think I rate these movies higher than most people haha).

I'll give it an 8/10.

Edit: I'd also like to add that I'm hoping Thunderbolts* would be better received though, I liked the trailers really well and I haven't heard any trouble with the production so far (to my knowledge).

 

[Lily Adler]

 

[psylockolussus]

One of the worst mcu movies ever. Second worst after Quantumania. After seeing Venom 3 and Kraven, I thought this next Marvel movie would be a lot more enjoyable but no. I kept falling asleep. A lot of characters were underdeveloped. Ross was the only one that had actual character development, but I thought the Red Hulk was underused. When the climax ended, I was like "thats it?". The other villains were just not good.

The best scene from the movie was

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when Bucky appeared and I'm not even a Bucky fan.

C+

 

[mace1]

I liked it! Good film but of course it will never reach the heights of the original trilogy. The highlight for me was Harrison Ford's Thunderbolt Ross, he had such great character development here. Sam's Cap was definitely different from Steve's Cap and while i liked it and understand that he is a good person and I shouldn't compare him to Steve, but I like Steve's Cap more. The fight with the jets and the fight with Red Hulk were the highlights for sure, but I felt that the hand to hand combat scenes were not as memorable as the Winter Soldier's scenes. I loved the political thriller feel of this movie but you really can tell which parts were reshot with the amount of exposition they were doing. The main villain's appearance and actions were great IMO, wish we see that character more in the future. The new falcon is. . . okay.

Overall, I'm starting to think that the MCU is really a victim of its own past success. If this were a phase 1 or 2 film, I think critics would probably be kinder to it, as I think the RT score is pretty low to how I felt the movie was. I still think this was a solid film, not great of course but not all films need to be, and it's definitely way better than the worst MCU films. Or maybe I'm too biased as a fan or just not cutout to be a film critic lol (context: I find all the MCU films so far to be watchable and enjoyable and I think I rate these movies higher than most people haha).

I'll give it an 8/10.

Edit: I'd also like to add that I'm hoping Thunderbolts* would be better received though, I liked the trailers really well and I haven't heard any trouble with the production so far (to my knowledge).

Keep in mind a 7.5 - 8.4 is great score.
So 8 is a great score.
A 6.5 - 7.5 is very good,not great.

 

[Spider-Fan]

I think 3/5 is fair for this. It isn't Quantumania bad, but it's certainly nowhere near the upper tier MCU either. There is obvious reshoot stuff that hinder the narrative a bit, but it is very fast paced and I never got bored during the movie. I also liked the core storyline, though it also could have been taken further. Overall, it's a decent movie

 

[Ctfxcwatcher]

This film is a 6-7/10. It's not worse than Ant-Man 3, Eternals, Thor Love and Thunder or the Marvels(even though I thought the Marvels wasn't that bad). Unpopular opinion but it's a better movie than even Deadpool and Wolverine. I think the Russo's should've directed this.

The big problem is I don't know if this has the replay value of some other middle of the line MCU films. But I'm glad I saw it.

 

[oohaahcantona]

Looks like I'm far from alone in thinking good, not great. I wasn't expecting much which probably helped but certainly not the worst film in the MCU. Like most modern films, it's just a shame they show so much before hand. Seems ridiculous showing the bad guy in the shadows like it's some major reveal when they announced who it was a year ago! I know they was never going to keep Red Hulk secret either, as they're obviously concerned about the box office, but showing such a major plot point that happens so late in the film is ridiculous. 3 out of 5 for me, obviously not a patch on The Winter Soldier, but then again, not many films are.

 

[Charzhin0]

It was meh but watchable 6/10.

You can clearly tell they had Winter Soldier(the movie) as a direct template for BNW. But it doesnt work here. The Conspiracy they lead the first half of the movie with doesnt have the same impact as it did in Winter Soldier. Alexander Pearce in that movie was introduced right from the beginning in full view and we learnt to trust his character. So when the reveal happens later in the movie, its impact is very strong. In BNW, they try to replicate this but the shadowy evil manipulator turns out to be a guy we have no clue who it is, so why the secrecy?

They also try recreating the buddy cop friendship between Sam and this new falcon guy, as Steve and Sam had in TWS. But in this movie it comes off weak and not a very compelling bromance.

Also they try recreating Natasha Romanovs character as the tag along black widow but again this new chick had zero charisma and no chemistry with Sam Wilson.

In the TWS, Steve Rogers had very compelling interactions with Sam, Natasha, Bucky, Pearce and Nick Fury. Unfortunately in BNW, this is reduced to only 1 interesting relationship and thats between Sam and Ross. Their conversations and dilemma feel genuine. Whenever Sam is interacting with anyone else, the energy drops like a rock.

I also was not a fan of how much tech upgrades they gave Sam by the end of the movie. Talk about literal plot armour!

 

[Mysteryman]

It was meh but watchable 6/10.

You can clearly tell they had Winter Soldier(the movie) as a direct template for BNW. But it doesnt work here. The Conspiracy they lead the first half of the movie with doesnt have the same impact as it did in Winter Soldier. Alexander Pearce in that movie was introduced right from the beginning in full view and we learnt to trust his character. So when the reveal happens later in the movie, its impact is very strong. In BNW, they try to replicate this but the shadowy evil manipulator turns out to be a guy we have no clue who it is, so why the secrecy?

They also try recreating the buddy cop friendship between Sam and this new falcon guy, as Steve and Sam had in TWS. But in this movie it comes off weak and not a very compelling bromance.

Also they try recreating Natasha Romanovs character as the tag along black widow but again this new chick had zero charisma and no chemistry with Sam Wilson.

In the TWS, Steve Rogers had very compelling interactions with Sam, Natasha, Bucky, Pearce and Nick Fury. Unfortunately in BNW, this is reduced to only 1 interesting relationship and thats between Sam and Ross. Their conversations and dilemma feel genuine. Whenever Sam is interacting with anyone else, the energy drops like a rock.

I also was not a fan of how much tech upgrades they gave Sam by the end of the movie. Talk about literal plot armour!

Cool Suit.
I wouldn’t mind being decked out in some of that literal plot armor myself.

 

[TheVileOne]

I felt the movie was a 6/10. I think it had some decent performances and elements, but a poorly conceived patchwork story. The Serpent Society were just minor two-bit mercenaries, so you waste Esposito in a throwaway role. A lot of sequel bait that's not well integrated or explained. I don't get why the McGuffin is so valuable and people are ready to start a war over it.

I mean a couple of movies ago, the US wanted to go to war with Wakanda and destabilize Wakanda. There was never a resolution to that. Did Ross put a stop to that? Did Cap? Would've been nice to know.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Realistically, would Japan really be the U.S. biggest competitor over that island? Where is China and Russia? Am I supposed to believe they don't want access to a petrified Celestial full of unbreakable metal minerals?

 

[psylockolussus]

That island being used as a conflict, while

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Leader plots his revenge plan to Ross, was really not well thought, and they just decided to shoehorn Sam in the middle of that conflict. Its not a really good story for a CaptainAmerica movie, let alone a movie that is supposed to have Sam as the movie lead for the first time.

Marvel should have known better. Not everybody saw Eternals as well to fully understand what that island is.

 

[Zyraquis]

This is a solid film and would have been fresh if released in Phase 1 or 2. The middle was a bit boring but then pulled me back in towards to the end.

The acting was good overall.

Most important no convoluted complicated theory to numb mind.
7.5/10

 

[Daywalker89]

That island being used as a conflict, while

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Leader plots his revenge plan to Ross, was really not well thought, and they just decided to shoehorn Sam in the middle of that conflict. Its not a really good story for a CaptainAmerica movie, let alone a movie that is supposed to have Sam as the movie lead for the first time.

Marvel should have known better. Not everybody saw Eternals as well to fully understand what that island is.

Lool I haven't watched and neither had my buddies so im intrigued what this island is. Pretty much agree with the rest of your statement though.

 

[Sithborg]

Realistically, would Japan really be the U.S. biggest competitor over that island? Where is China and Russia? Am I supposed to believe they don't want access to a petrified Celestial full of unbreakable metal minerals?

Well, using Russia is... kind of insensitive at the moment. And China, well, don't want you movie banned there.

 

[jamesb]

I must have lost it , because I enjoyed it quite a bit. 7 out of 10 for me. Some of the reactions are way over the top. It’s not a bad movie. Far from it!