Censorship...

[OverMyHead]

How much is too much? Where do we draw the line?

Was the 2004 exposed breast at the Super Bowl indecent?

In my humble opinion, the ads showing the cheap Desperate Housewife skank was offensive and immoral for the viewers, especially for the ladies, more so than any exposed nudity.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

I really hate the issue, 'cause my feeling is to say, I don't think anything should be censored ever, as long as it has a clear warning attached about what kind of content there'll be and no one was harmed or exploited against their will in it's production.

But you can't just have a constant warning and control who gets access to what 100% of the time.

So, would I feel it was a little off if I walked into a room full of 3rd graders and they had Christina Aguilera having sex with a great dane for the Superbowl half time show?
Yes I would.

So, that means it's a matter of degrees.
The word "damn" is okay....the word "f***" is not.
Right?
Wrong, 'cause everyone's "line that must never be crossed" is placed differently.
So you have to have a way to decide the standards.
But I don't want some Puritanical ninny defining standards for me.
So you come back to, "Everyone has to be responsible for it themselves."
Which brings you back to, "Yeah, but warnings about content can never be 100% failsafe."

So I hate the issue.
I would tend however to err on the side of freedom.
I saw hardcore porn as early as 3 years old.
I did not grow up to be a rapist...just a perv, but I suspect that would've happened anyway.
And, people act all appauled by racist websites and call for them to be banned.
That's ******ed. I think kids should be SHOWN the sites, and then educated about how backwards, wrong and evil/pathetic they ARE.....from an early age.
I'm frustrated by the issue.

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[the_ultimate_evil]

In my humble opinion, the ads showing the cheap Desperate Housewife skank was offensive and immoral for the viewers, especially for the ladies, more so than any exposed nudity.

the maturity just reachs such high levels with a statment like that.

 

[OverMyHead]

Your sarcasm does not go well with me.

What right do you have to coerce me into a different position or opinion?

Learn to agree to disagree.

 

[Abaddon]

How much is too much? Where do we draw the line?

Was the 2004 exposed breast at the Super Bowl indecent?

In my humble opinion, the ads showing the cheap Desperate Housewife skank was offensive and immoral for the viewers, especially for the ladies, more so than any exposed nudity.

how was it offensive for the ladies

 

[Matt]

Everyone has a body. It is nothing to be ashamed of. Our society needs to pull the stick from its ass.

 

[Kebab gud]

your afraid of boobs and people saying **** in movies... ******.. <-- wow! not censored!

 

[Lackey]

I really hate the issue, 'cause my feeling is to say, I don't think anything should be censored ever, as long as it has a clear warning attached about what kind of content there'll be and no one was harmed or exploited against their will in it's production.

But you can't just have a constant warning and control who gets access to what 100% of the time.

So, would I feel it was a little off if I walked into a room full of 3rd graders and they had Christina Aguilera having sex with a great dane for the Superbowl half time show?
Yes I would.

So, that means it's a matter of degrees.
The word "damn" is okay....the word "f***" is not.
Right?
Wrong, 'cause everyone's "line that must never be crossed" is placed differently.
So you have to have a way to decide the standards.
But I don't want some Puritanical ninny defining standards for me.
So you come back to, "Everyone has to be responsible for it themselves."
Which brings you back to, "Yeah, but warnings about content can never be 100% failsafe."

So I hate the issue.
I would tend however to err on the side of freedom.
I saw hardcore porn as early as 3 years old.
I did not grow up to be a rapist...just a perv, but I suspect that would've happened anyway.
And, people act all appauled by racist websites and call for them to be banned.
That's ******ed. I think kids should be SHOWN the sites, and then educated about how backwards, wrong and evil/pathetic they ARE.....from an early age.
I'm frustrated by the issue.

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The solution, in my opinion, is self-censorship. When we have government censorship and ****ers like the FCC get involved, that's when things go to ****.

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Your sarcasm does not go well with me.

What right do you have to coerce me into a different position or opinion?

Learn to agree to disagree.

then learn to present your arguement in a intelligent manor, resorting to calling some who is basiclly playing a part things like a skank dont really show yourself in a good light for a serious topic such as this

Wilhelm said it perfectly it comes down to the indivual, every human being on this planet is gifted with a brain, and its about time a lot of us started using it and showing a lot more common sense, you dont like what the station is showing then change the channel.

 

[Lackey]

Everyone has a body. It is nothing to be ashamed of. Our society needs to pull the stick from its ass.

Are you sure it's nothing to be ashamed of?

 

[Abaddon]

The solution, in my opinion, is self-censorship. When we have government censorship and ****ers like the FCC get involved, that's when things go to ****.

I can't tell how serious you're being, but people aren't reliable when it comes to self-censorship, for one.

 

[Lackey]

I can't tell how serious you're being, but people aren't reliable when it comes to self-censorship, for one.

yeah, and the government, on the other hand, is super reliable in every aspect

 

[Abaddon]

yeah, and the government, on the other hand, is super reliable in every aspect

of course not, but if you leave censorship up to you individuals, you will invariably get people who don't censor themselves ever is my point.

 

[Lackey]

of course not, but if you leave censorship up to you individuals, you will invariably get people who don't censor themselves ever is my point.

I'm talking about self-censorship like when an industry censors itself like the movie industry with the MPAA.

 

[mcilroga]

I hate it when swear words are censored out on forums... and instead, we're left with a plethora of asterisks. Everybody knows what you're trying to say when you see "sh**." It's just irritating. I don't see how its affect (if there is any) somehow diminishes with a bunch of stars. I think we can handle it. Just my opinion, though.

 

[Abaddon]

I'm talking about self-censorship like when an industry censors itself like the movie industry with the MPAA.

well even in that particular example there are issues with the appropriateness of some the ratings and how they themselves may be hindering some freedom of speech.

 

[Lackey]

well even in that particular example there are issues with the appropriateness of some the ratings and how they themselves may be hindering some freedom of speech.

not as many issues as there are with the FCC regulating network TV.

And there's no hinderance of freedom of speech with the MPAA. If you don't want your movie to be rated by them, you don't have to.

 

[Abaddon]

If you don't mind your movie failing to get audience, yeah.

But don't me wrong, the FCC as is needs an enema.

 

[CyberFaust]

the only thing that should be censored is stupidity

 

[BAH HUMBBUG!]

Screw censorship period!

 

[CyberFaust]

Screw censorship period!

you can't do that. If you do, they would start re-runs of teh brady bunch, do you really want that to happen

 

[Matt]

I agree with Lackey. There is a very simple solution to people who complain about profanity, violence, sex, whatever in the media...change the channel, don't watch the movie, don't play the video game, listen to a different song. If you don't like it...you simply don't have to endulge in it. I don't get why people in this country insist on forcing their values onto others.

 

[Abaddon]

I agree with Lackey. There is a very simple solution to people who complain about profanity, violence, sex, whatever in the media...change the channel, don't watch the movie, don't play the video game, listen to a different song. If you don't like it...you simply don't have to endulge in it. I don't get why people in this country insist on forcing their values onto others.

while this is true, sometimes those things are hard to avoid.

 

[Matt]

while this is true, sometimes those things are hard to avoid.

No, they really aren't. Especially with things like the V-chip avalible. I'll admit, things like Janet Jackson was hard to miss, but that is why you can run the live events on a 15 or 30 second delay.

We live in a demand-supply economy. There will always be demand for children entertainment. There will always be demand for "acceptable" prime time programing like George Lopez and According to Jim (not that it is acceptable to watch those shows). And there will always be demand for adult entertainment such as The Sopranos. There will always be an alternative. Even if you do away with censorship laws, Nickolodeon isn't suddenly going to start playing Debbie Does Dallas. There will ALWAYS be an alternative. It is just a matter of...and I know this is a hard concept to grasp...parents monitoring what their children watch instead of asking the government to do it for them.

 

[ScottyBBadd]

Everyone has a body. It is nothing to be ashamed of. Our society needs to pull the stick from its ass.

Ya think.