Chadwick Boseman is Black Panther! - Part 5

[BadrHari]

 

[Six]

I would be surprised if Boseman didn't get the job. He seems like the clear choice.

 

[Silvermoth]

It means either T'Challa or Carol. Hell, maybe both, which is what I am hoping for.

I still don't think it will be. I'm sorry to say that.

The timing seems a bit off. I reckon it'll have something to do with doctor strange.

It would be wonderful if I was wrong though

 

[Gr0oT]

Deadline got it wrong, Cucumbersnatch is actually cast as T'Challa not Strange.

Glad Marvel keeps an open mind about things.

 

[Mike Murdock]

I would be surprised if Boseman didn't get the job. He seems like the clear choice.

Probably Boseman, but there were a lot of rumors for Boyega and Ejiofor so I'm not going to take one for granted.

 

[Huddsy]

We have NOT had a lot of world-class white actors play non-meaty roles. Idris Elba is four-time Emmy nominee and Djimon Hounsou is a two-time Oscar nominee.

Additionally, the OVERWHELMING majority of strong roles in the MCU are played by white people. White dudes have every single leading role in every single Marvel movie so far.

Like, are actually going to try and argue that white actors and black actors are getting equal shrift here? There isn't even a single woman-of-color character with a name in any of the MCU films!

Not colorful enough for you?

 

[cherokeesam]

Not colorful enough for you?

Add a picture of Rosario Dawson. I'm too lazy to find one right now.

 

[Nokio]

Not colorful enough for you?

I was sitting there thinking about it and had forgotten about Saldana, even though she's painted green. How did I miss that.

 

[Nokio]

Scared there for a second. Whew!! I thought Boseman had been announced as BP. I really don't want him as T'challa. He's a good actor and i've seen the other films he's done but he's just not BP to me, but then he may surprise. i'd be open to given him a chance to prove me wrong. I like Boyega better despite his age. I'm also rooting for a surprise and someone like Laz Alonso is cast or even Charles Michael David, whom i knew nothing about until someone mentioned him and i watched that Originals show he's on and he'd be a good fit.

 

[SuperT]

Not colorful enough for you?

I wouldn't particularly classify her character as a "woman of color". Unless green people start sprouting up across the world...

 

[ThatDamnNinja]

I wouldn't particularly classify her character as a "woman of color". Unless green people start sprouting up across the world...

Exactly. She counts for "Marvel hiring a black/Latina woman". She does not really count for actual representation, because she's playing a green alien. The race of the actual actress is hidden. Gamora is played by a black/Latina woman, but Gamora, as a character, is not a black/Latina woman. And even if you quibble on that point, isn't it troublesome that the first and only example that we can pull up is literally a green alien?

And there are WOC in MCU's TV stuff (e.g. Rosario Dawson in the upcoming Daredevil series, and Ming-Na Wen being the best damn part of Agents of SHIELD), but not in the films.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Denzel would not play T'Chaka. It would be too small for him.

 

[chamber-music]

Korean actress Claudia Kim is in Avengers Age Of Ultron so Marvel has had a woman of colour in a movie.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Korean actress Claudia Kim is in Avengers Age Of Ultron so Marvel has had a woman of colour in a movie.

But it might be an unimportant role, ala Galaga Guy in the first movie or the Russian dude who interrogated Romanoff.

 

[Paradox1]

So the big announcement from Marvel today was Cumberbatch as Strange?

 

[Dr. Evil]

So the big announcement from Marvel today was Cumberbatch as Strange?

Has not started yet.

I'm expecting Strange stuff (pun intended) and Cap 3 and Thor 3. An outside shot of us knowing who most of the Ant Man cast is playing.

 

[chamber-music]

I completely forgot they still have not announced who half the Ant-Man cast are playing.

 

[RockSP]

Turns out Michael Douglas is actually Wasp.

 

[Dr. Evil]

I completely forgot they still have not announced who half the Ant-Man cast are playing.

We only know of Douglas, Rudd, Lilly, Stoll and Slattery (it's likely he's reprising his role as Howard Stark).

 

[Dr. Evil]

If it's Spidey related and they chose not to announce BP or Carol Danvers, I'll give Marvel Studios a pass for not announcing either of them.

 

[DrCosmic]

I'm not in favour of pandering to a few ignorant people who can't work out some basic facts such as Africans being a very diverse people with cultures different from African Americans.

If anything Hudlin could of used his comic run to educate westerners and young black kids about African cultures.

"Africa is Not a Country" is a popular catch phrase. Think about how widespread complete ignorance about all basic facts about Africa is when the majority of the west has to be reminded that Africa is not a country. Hudlin, in the context of that audiencecertainly did educate about African cultures.

We have NOT had a lot of world-class white actors play non-meaty roles. Idris Elba is four-time Emmy nominee and Djimon Hounsou is a two-time Oscar nominee.

Additionally, the OVERWHELMING majority of strong roles in the MCU are played by white people. White dudes have every single leading role in every single Marvel movie so far.

Like, are actually going to try and argue that white actors and black actors are getting equal shrift here? There isn't even a single woman-of-color character with a name in any of the MCU films!

The inequality is real. I think the long standing inequalities of Hollywood and of comic book history are highlighted when you see this large connected universe. Just FYI, Rosario Dawson is cast, as is Claudia Kim, so this statement won't be true in a year's time.

Thanks. I agree that Hudlin attempted and arguably succeeded in making Panther more accessible. Panther certainly made more strides toward the mainstream under Hudlin than any other writer before or since. Under Hudlin we got the "Wedding of the Century" with a dress designed by a person from Guiding Light, he got a bestselling writer do do the Storm-Panther backstory (as controversial as that might be for some), and we got a Panther cartoon.

I would argue that Hudlin sought to grow the audience, to make Panther a character that could appeal to nonwhites, particularly blacks, who might not have been that much into the character previously or into comics in general. He didn't try to appease white fanboys, like an industry veteran like Priest did with using a white POV character, at least initially, during his run.

He created a black power fantasy to some extent and for that some fanboys will never forgive him. Was Hudlin the greatest writer? No. Was he the greatest creator? No. I definitely think he could've upped T'Challa's enemies, though he did a very good job with "Who is the Panther?", which played like a movie. And if we got that as a Panther film I would be pleased.

Compared to what came after Hudlin (Maberry, Liss, and now Hickman) I rate Hudlin even higher than I had before.

I forgot about that marriage thing. That actually did as much or more to make BP mainstream as massaging colonialism into his origin story. I don't think too much about fans who were put off by the black power fantasy. Truly conservative comic book nerds are a really small minority, vocal as they may be.

Upping T'Challa's enemies would have been a great move on his part, and probably could have made the volume last quite a bit longer if there were those kinds of really crazy stories rolling out of it. Switching over to Shuri, to me, seemed like a face-saving move so that no one could say that T'Challa sold less than 30K/month. That might be reaching though, I don't know. Hickman is my fave of the modern crop. If he did a Panther solo, it'd be fracking awesome.

 

[Dr. Evil]

November 3rd 2017!

 

[marcvader]

November 3, 2017...Black Panther!

 

[MadVillainy]

Empire Magazine ‏@empiremagazine 2m2 minutes ago
Nov 3 2017: Black Panther! #MarvelEvent. Marvel has begun seeding things for the character.


We Made It

 

[T"Challa]

I'm so happy guys..I could cry