Chadwick Boseman is Black Panther! - Part 5

[Flint Marko]

I really hope they don't take the WW approach and look for a black director just because Black Panther is black. I find it patronizing to be honest. Get the best director regardless of race. If a white guy happens to be a fan and a director then give him the gig. Same goes for Blacks, Asians, etc.

Just give the property to a person with passion. I want a great movie first and foremost.

What I've been saying for a while now.

 

[terry78]

I also hope we can get some actual African actors in this too and not just African Americans for the supporting cast.

You know damn well about 1/3 of the cast will be african british.

 

[RockSP]

I love how people fear because cap 3 has a new black guy the old one will get dropped. Get real people lol. Falcon will more thsn likely be around.

Superfriends did it so the MCU will follow suit.

 

[E-Man]

I really hope they don't take the WW approach and look for a black director just because Black Panther is black. I find it patronizing to be honest. Get the best director regardless of race. If a white guy happens to be a fan and a director then give him the gig. Same goes for Blacks, Asians, etc.

Just give the property to a person with passion. I want a great movie first and foremost.

I agree with this. I want a great director above all, but I can see why they would want to go with a black director as well. Antoine Fuqua is really hot right now, and F. Gary Gray did almost direct Winter Soldier. If they just have to go with a black director there are some good names, but I want them to get someone who is going to respect the character and deliver something great. Don't care about their color, gender, sexual orientation, or any of that stuff.

 

[chamber-music]

I'm sure someone black will be in the production crew somewhere. It would be cool to see someone like McQueen exec producing since I doubt he'd write or direct. I do want John Ridley for the screenplay, though it'll probably be Yost and McFeely again.

I watched John Ridely's Jimi Hendrix film last week and it was rubbish but Ruth Negga, Hayley Atwell, Andre 3000 and Adrian Lester were good.

The few maps I've seen put it in central/east Africa.

Yep. Most maps I've seen of Wakanda place it in East Africa bordering what would be Somalia, Kenya and Ethiopia.

F Spike Lee. He better be nowhere near this.

Spike Lee's big mouth would probably generate negative publicity if he was attached to this film.

 

[XBRoughneck]

What are the chances we see Spike Lee attached as an executive producer?

Bad joke?

 

[terry78]

Also, curious to see what Aaron McGruder would do after Boondocks and Red Tails.

 

[Hypestyle]

there's no excuse not to reach out to folks with intimate knowledge of contemporary panther lore.. C. Priest, R. Hudlin, etc.

side note: white affirmative action has dominated cinema for decades.. if Tate Taylor has to sit out on Panther, I'm not offended..

 

[craigdbfan]

As it should be.

What I've been saying for a while now.

On the same wavelength fellas.

Also, curious to see what Aaron McGruder would do after Boondocks and Red Tails.

Oh now that's an interesting suggestion. I think he would be able to deliver something quite good.

I was thinking Neill Blomkamp. He has an intimate knowledge about African affairs and also an eye for great visuals.

 

[chamber-music]

You know damn well about 1/3 of the cast will be african british.

I remember HBO/BBC's No 1 Ladies Detective Agency tv show having a 90% Black British cast despite being filmed in Botswana.

Great cast though with Idria Elba, Colin Salmon and David Oyelowo all making an appearance.

 

[craigdbfan]

Lets be honest, myself and many others probably wouldn't complain about having a great supporting African British cast. Not to stereotype but Black actors from the UK tend to either be great or incredible (lol that's the scale). Can't think of a "bad" black British actor.

 

[chamber-music]

I would be against Forest Whittaker directing.

 

[Stringer]

On the same wavelength fellas.

Oh now that's an interesting suggestion. I think he would be able to deliver something quite good.

I was thinking Neill Blomkamp. He has an intimate knowledge about African affairs and also an eye for great visuals.

Both would be great. Blomkamp would give this movie some serious hype though. Legitimate box office breaking type hype. I could see them going for F. Gary Gray though. Wasn't he up for Cap 2 at once?

 

[Gusto]

Panther will probably mainly serve in the political war in Cap 3. A little action here and there. Hell, I'm betting to see some Spider-Man in his role.

 

[Paradox1]

I'm not as high on Blomkamp I thought District 9 was great and his next film was alright.

 

[RockSP]

Kerry Washington is too predictable. Let's give someone else a chance.

Agreed. Though they may very well go with the predictable choice since it could help bring in dat $$$$

 

[Stringer]

Agreed. Though they may very well go with the predictable choice since it could help bring in dat $$$$

That Scandal audience would show up in force for sure.

 

[Havok83]

I googled him to see what he looks like and ws about to say he was too young for the role, but then read he was 37. Damn, he looks good for his age. He easily looks at least 10 years younger

 

[DarKush]

I'm sorry but clearly we weren't reading the same books. If I want to see black power fantasies or undertones about a pimp and his women who are labeled as bodyguards or racial overtones about evil whitey I'll watch many of the Hollywood movies that come out with all black casts. I love comics and I don't want see that in comics books. We get one of the few Black characters who is popular and I don't want some writer using this as his vehicle to get his message or frustrations out about the racial inequality here in the states. I don't want BP and Wakanda dumbed down and american urbanized to appeal to a black demographic that loves whats being called hiphop/rap today and where them terrible trashy reality shows like Love and Hiphop that is flooded on VH1 and BET is not to be missed tv. That is the demographic that Hudlin is writing for, to appeal to that crowd. I've seen enough of the crap. I want to enjoy the fantastical element of Comics. Is that too much to ask or do you not get it. The racial aspect has been touched on enough move on.

I hated Shuri as Panther and ruler and still do. Marvel has tore down Wakanda and it all started with Hudlin. Jack Kirby would be rolling over in his grave if he can see how Wakanda has been taken apart and on a path to be like a lot of the other African countries where corruption and instability is everywhere. Thank you Mr Hudlin for opening the door to allow other writers to decimate Wakanda's once regal legacy.

Nokio,

I think you're making some negative generalizations about African Americans and 'urban' culture. Hudlin wasn't dumbing down anything. If anything he attempted to tie together African Americans to Africa, which is a good thing. Because as much as there are differences, there are still similarities, particularly the struggle blacks around the world have had to endure for the last 500 or so years. I think you are generalizing the audience that Hudlin was writing for as well, in a negative way. Not all 'urban' black people watch BET or Love and Hip Hop. And while I do think he made Panther a bit more hip, or attempted to (his usage of slang was certainly better than Priest's, I mean "Nappy Fro Lad", who talks like that?), he didn't dumb down the character. He perhaps updated him and he also made him more relevant than he had been in years.

I think this 'evil whitey' thing is overblown. First of all, what person besides white conservatives refers to white people as 'whitey' today anyway? Hudlin was honest about a history of racism/colonialism. That's not unfairly painting whites, that's being honest about history. I'm not sure what the pimp stuff is you're talking about. It was Priest who created the Dora Milaje, I think. And as for African American movies in general, there is a lot of space for righteous criticism, however they are not as one note as you seem to believe. Just this year black directors have put out Belle and Dear White People, which don't fit the stereotypes you suggest. And Fuqua did The Equalizer, which was a pretty mainstream film with a black lead. And you've had movies like Get on Up, Addicted, and No Good Deed. And John Ridley's Jimi Hendrix picture, All is By My Side. Even comedies like About Last Night and Think Like a Man (I didn't watch either), probably aren't focusing on pimps or evil white people. Not sure if Ride Along did but I'm assuming it didn't. Upcoming is the romance Beyond the Lights, Chris Rock's Top Five, and the Civil Rights Era Selma. Selma will probably deal with 'evil whitey', but it's likely there will be a variety of white characters, good and bad in that film. Black people watch more than BET and VH1.

I don't know if Hudlin brought any of his frustrations into his art. Perhaps he did. But one could argue perhaps he brought his aspirations into his art as well. In any case I doubt he's the first artist to do so and it was no big deal.

I don't think the racial aspect is something you can 'move on' from. It's weaved into the history of the continent and the character. It adds dimension to him, and gives weight to his actions or his perceived actions. It's something I think that should be explored. If you take that away, you risk making him a generic do gooder, the colorless monarch of a fictional land, no different than Aquaman or Namor. You take something fundamental away from him. And I'm not sure that's what was intended when he was created. To me, he's a great symbol of possibility and watering him down weakens the character and destroys his rationale for being.

I do agree with you about Wakanda being torn down and it started with Hudlin. Which is unfortunate, but it's not fair to lay the blame solely on his shoulders and not indict Editorial (which is probably the true villains) and the writers that succeeded him. Under Hudlin Panther was the victim of a deadly attack, but it is the other writers that had Wakanda go through a coup by the Desturi, invaded by Doom, T'Challa choked out and preached to by Doom, T'Challa making vibranium inert and leaving his country in shambles, annulling the marriage to Storm, flooding Wakanda, and so on.

As for Shuri, I like the character. There aren't a lot of kickass black female characters and it's always good to add to the number. I don't think she should've survived DoomWar, being the noble sacrifice, but seeing how they've chumped out T'Challa, I like her more than I did previously. As I said before she's acting more like a warrior monarch and putting the interests of her country first, which is what T'Challa should be doing. And if he's not doing that it should create more dramatic tension to see him being pulled in different directions.

 

[craigdbfan]

Meagan Good for his love interest because one can't ever have enough Meagan Good.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

heh... conisdering that we got Johhny Depp as a Native American i dont see hollywood combing the want ads looking for authentic African actors! but i would like to see what's dude name Dijmon?! Korath in Guardians as
Man- Ape!

Man!how cool would it be with that dude, Klaw and Chadwick!!
I freakin cant wait!!

oh and i dont care what race is of who's directing.. as long as they do the panther the justice he deserves!

 

[XBRoughneck]

I really hope they don't take the WW approach and look for a black director just because Black Panther is black. I find it patronizing to be honest. Get the best director regardless of race. If a white guy happens to be a fan and a director then give him the gig. Same goes for Blacks, Asians, etc.

Just give the property to a person with passion. I want a great movie first and foremost.

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Meagan Good for his love interest because one can't ever have enough Meagan Good.

x infinity

 

[JP]

Just coming in here to lift my hands up and celebrate.

 

[Raiden]

Boseman is probably the best young African-American actor right now, and after 42 and Get On Up he's making a name for himself. What a coup for Marvel to get him as Black Panther! I've been waiting forever for BP and I'm happy to see it finally confirmed for 2017.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Wakanda is located in Northeastern Africa, although its exact location has varied throughout the nation's publication history: some sources place Wakanda in East Africa, just north of Tanzania,[1] while others - such as Marvel Atlas #2 - show it bordering Lake Turkana, near Somalia, Kenya and Ethiopia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wakanda_(comics)

Anybody got that SHIELD map screenie from Iron Man 2?