Chapter 10: "Truth and Consequences" discussion thread 11/26

[Sawyer]

Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) travels to Primatech Paper in Texas with his new friend to destroy the virus, which will kill 93 percent of the world's population in the future — or so he believes. Niki (Ali Larter) returns to Micah (Noah Gray-Cabey) with bad news. To right a wrong, Monica (Dana Davis) puts her abilities to the test while Hiro (Masi Oka) goes after his father's killer. Meanwhile, Matt (Greg Grunberg) uses his mental abilities to track down the last person in the company photo. In addition, Nathan (Adrian Pasdar) learns his brother is alive. Outside of New York, Maya (Dania Ramirez) must choose between Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) and Sylar (Zachary Quinto). Kristen Bell, Jack Coleman, James Kyson Lee, Hayden Panettiere and Sendhil Ramamurthy also star. Nick D'Agosto, Adair Tishler and Stephen Tobolowsky guest-star.

 

[Eddie Brock]

No hiatus yet?



EDIT: Who wants to bet that Monica will go after the guy that tried to rob her? *raises hand*

 

[Raiden]

Looks like this episode will be tightly-paced and very exciting, but since there are only 2 more eps left, I wonder if they will be able to resolve anything. I want to see Hiro going all crazy and stuff while trying to seek veagenace for his father's killer. Would be cool see Peter protecting his new friend against Hiro.

 

[OobeDoobBenubi]

That description is weird because Nathan already was told by Bob that Peter was alive

 

[Sawyer]

I think it means that this is the episode that actually shows Nathan looking for him.

 

[gkokujin]

DEATH TO THE BLUNDERTWINS!!!

what a waste of a potentially good power.

 

[neemer5]

I guess Nikki will die afterall

 

[Raiden]

DEATH TO THE BLUNDERTWINS!!!

what a waste of a potentially good power.

Yeah, I can already predict who she will side with in this episode (hint: someone she will regret later).

 

[Eddie Brock]

I think it means that this is the episode that actually shows Nathan looking for him.

Yes.

Remember that, at the end of Four Months Ago, we saw Nathan standing outside of the Irish pub in the rain.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

"Hiro (Masi Oka) goes after his father's killer."

I just don't understand why that is necessary... Hiro had Adam at his mercy last week... frozen in time as he murdered Hiro's father. I'd have vivisected him in that instant and buried the pieces hundreds of miles apart in Antartica. Let the aliens at the end of "AI" thaw him out in a million years...

 

[Eddie Brock]

"Hiro (Masi Oka) goes after his father's killer."

I just don't understand why that is necessary... Hiro had Adam at his mercy last week... frozen in time as he murdered Hiro's father. I'd have vivisected him in that instant and buried the pieces hundreds of miles apart in Antartica. Let the aliens at the end of "AI" thaw him out in a million years...

A. Hiro's not a killer.
B. Hiro learned that even though he can change the past, it doesn't mean he should.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

That wouldn't necessarily kill Adam... as my post suggests.

And HOW can someone steeped in the tales of the Kensai not be someone who would take an evil man's life? Bushido demands it.

 

[Apprentice]

That wouldn't necessarily kill Adam... as my post suggests.

And HOW can someone steeped in the tales of the Kensai not be someone who would take an evil man's life? Bushido demands it.

That's like saying because I read and like Superman, I should be weak to kryptonite.

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

No.
It's like saying because you identify with Superman, you should believe in the same values he does. That's not a stretch.

 

[Raiden]

A. Hiro's not a killer.
B. Hiro learned that even though he can change the past, it doesn't mean he should.

I agree with your point. But if Hiro won't kill Adam to avenge his father's death, what will he do when he does find Adam? Demand an apology?

 

[Sawyer]

A. Hiro's not a killer.

And stabbing Sylar was what? An accident? Hiro knows that he will kill if he needs to. If he finds out that Adam is a threat to the world, then he will kill him, but I'm sure he wont kill Adam simply because he killed his dad.

 

[Virus276]

This is pretty much off subject but no one can one hundred percent prove that Adam can be killed for good can they? So I got to thinking about how they got rid of the immortal in ninja scroll. It's been a long time since I seen it but as I remember they dropped him in melted gold then sank him to the bottom of the ocean. The only reason I mention this is because I was wondering if you think they'll go a similar route with Adam?

 

[echostation]

i think if West unleashes a gigantic flying FART which can be electrified by Elle that should be able to deal a great mortal blow to this AdamnEve british man

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

And stabbing Sylar was what? An accident? Hiro knows that he will kill if he needs to. If he finds out that Adam is a threat to the world, then he will kill him, but I'm sure he wont kill Adam simply because he killed his dad.

Excellent point!
He's already shown us that he's NOT Peter Parker. There's no SHIELD in this universe to hand super-baddies over to...
"To save the world... you must die." Spoken by Heroes of every Age of Man.

 

[Apprentice]

No.
It's like saying because you identify with Superman, you should believe in the same values he does. That's not a stretch.

It is when it comes to killing.

And stabbing Sylar was what? An accident? Hiro knows that he will kill if he needs to. If he finds out that Adam is a threat to the world, then he will kill him, but I'm sure he wont kill Adam simply because he killed his dad.

Sylar was an extreme case. Hiro also knows that Adam can heal; there's no point in trying to kill a man that, as far as he knows, can't die. Why devalue your principles to no real effect?

 

[MaskedManJRK]

Sylar was an extreme case. Hiro also knows that Adam can heal; there's no point in trying to kill a man that, as far as he knows, can't die. Why devalue your principles to no real effect?

"Kill the head and the body will die."

 

[KALEL114]

I believe the spoiler in the other thread said:

Spoiler

They bury him (Adam) alive.

And he was dead on so far with his spoliers.

http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=287384

 

[VICTORVONDOOMX]

It is when it comes to killing.



Sylar was an extreme case. Hiro also knows that Adam can heal; there's no point in trying to kill a man that, as far as he knows, can't die. Why devalue your principles to no real effect?

Actually, I think you're just trying to project YOUR values onto Hiro without OBSERVING what his actually are.

HIS hero, Kensai, killed. Killing is part of his culture's warrior code, as is self-sacrifice. I'd say that based on this and his decision to kill Sylar (despite his discomfort), everyone ASSUMING that "Hiro doesn't kill" or that he would be devalueing his principles is wrong. Dead wrong. Heroes paints itself in THIS world, not the Bat or Spidey worlds. No Arkham.

Further, what Hiro is actually supposed to do to Adam is MUCH more cruel than a simple death.

 

[The Caped Knight]

The trailers for this episode look awesome . I can't wait for this episode

 

[Sebastos]

I can't believe we just have this episode and one more episode left. Still, can't wait for this episode.