Christian Bale is Gorr the God Butcher!

Sounds like great reactions across the board, except the one about being cookie-cutter. Doesn’t quite fit in with the rest lol.

 

“There were some potential scheduling conflicts. I said to my family, "I don't think it's going to work out," and they went, "No, you make it work out. You're doing this, Dad." They gave me my marching orders, and I dutifully obeyed.”

Awesome

 

If only mine did that in those kind of situations!

 

It's very weird and out of place to be honest, they probably were just trying to be contrarian.

 

I can't wait for one of you guys to see the film so we can get a real idea of how good (and how badass) Gorr is. This isn't the kind of thing I would always align with critics on.

 

We all knew this was the reason as soon as we saw Gorr's design.

 

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there are people upset that Gorr is another one and done villain, without realizing that Bale perhaps didn't want to be locked into multiple films. Those are the same people upset that Gorr wasn't a CGI character, when Bale seems like the type who would never wear a CGI body suit

 

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I think its more that nearly all of Marvel's one and done villains have been lame and forgettable, and people are keen to see antagonists that are fully fleshed-out characters.

 

They are no more forgettable than most other villains in other comic book films and are better than most imo.

I've never understood why this is an MCU criticism and not a CBM criticism as whole.

 

Its certainly not only an MCU problem (the villains in both Wonder Woman movies were awful IMO), but other franchises seem to have had a better batting record when it comes to crafting truly memorable villains, whether you're talking Fox with Magneto, or WB with Joker and the other TDK trilogy villains.

 

Fox also had Deadpool from X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Doctor Doom from Fantastic Four, Galactus from Fantastic Four, the Doctor Doom from F4ntastic, the villain from X-Men Dark Phoenix (forgot her name), Apocalypse from X-Men Apocalypse. Universal had Absorbing Dad from HULK. Sony had Black Heart, Black Out, Mephisto, and Roarke from the Ghost Rider movies, Drake from Blade Trinity, Venom and New Goblin from Spider-Man 3, The Lizard from ASM, Electro and Goblin from TASM2..

Don't get me started on WB with it's weak ass DCEU villains.

 

Yeah it was a legitimate problem probably in early phase 3 but that argument no longer holds water for the MCU. Since mid-2017, they've featured these well received villains:

• Vulture
• Killmonger
• Thanos
• Mysterio
• Leung's Mandarin

These next ones existed in Sony's universe but they are still in an MCU film:

• Dafoe's Norman Osborn
• Molina's Doc Ock

I mean those are some serious heavy hitters. And I'd argue that Killmonger, Thanos, and Mandarin are some of the best comicbook movie villains.

 

Yeah, plus credit to Marvel for trying different villains in most movies

How many friggin Jokers do we need, and Riddlers, and Cat... womens? womanses? How many movies can Magneto switch sides in? How many terrible Doctor Dooms?...

Fox couldn't even get to Mr. Sinister, let alone taking a c-list villain like Killmonger or a racist caricature like Mandarin and making them good...

 

I hope that scene of Gorr removing his tattoos are in the Disney + release with parental control for the kiddies and let us the paying adults a chance to see it lol

 

Gorr felt undercooked to me. Like Christian Bale hadn't fully worked out the character. I also don't think we see enough of his war against the gods to really sell his villainy and mayhem.

 

I'd say it's still a fair point.

 

Lazy comparison IMO. It's like saying Thanos looks like The Grimace or the Skrulls except purple. I don't look at this character and think MARVEL'S VOLDEMORT!

 

How does he stack up to Hela and Thanos in terms of power levels?

And are the fight scenes between Gorr and Thor better than Thor and Hela's fights? (which were kind of a let down tbh)