NosfeRomas
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^This !!!
There's a difference in liking a film and knowing when it's bad, they're not the same thing, i like Chronicles of Riddick but i won't defend it as a good movie. I don't enjoy The Shinning, you don't see me saying it was mega crap just because it wasn't something i liked.
If liking and knowing how to judge properly were the same thing then Transformers 3's reception would rise a lot.
I didn't acuse him of trolling, i asked him if he was trollingThanks for the lecture, but that's beside the point. He obviously didn't think that the movie was good by any objective measure, so instead of accusing him of trolling, why not just ask 'why'? Your response was predicated on the notion that TDK is above criticism, which is just as bad as trolling if you ask me.
You mentioned that Legendary is "boys-male oriented". Why do you think that Disney snapped up Marvel? The studio's rationale at the time was that it needed to add a brand that could produce movies that would attract boys and young men, to add to its Disney princess monopoly on girls. The acquisition of LucasFilm was another move to shore up Disney's offerings for the young male demo. If Legendary is male-focused, that would make it all the more attractive to Disney.
I didn't acuse him of trolling, i asked him if he was trolling
I considered it, which is why i asked him if he was trolling. I want to know why he thinks the film is bad.
Semantics. My point is that you defaulted to that line of thinking rather than considering his take on the film.
Yep, i would. This is the internet, a forum to be specific, you have specify why you don't think something is good when the majority does.Then ask why he thinks the film is bad. If the first thing someone asks you after you give your honest opinion is if you're a troll, would you take them seriously?
Punisher will be a good choice for him, past Punisher movies (the two before War Zone) tried to ground the character, so for a guy who likes to add as much realism as possible into a comic book film, it will suit him finePunisher or Daredevil.
It just has his name slapped there as a producer, and a bit of inspiration of his grounded workThrow Man of Steel in there and see what Nolan's tomahto-meter says.
I don't think he would be a good fit for The Punisher for his aversion to brutality alone. The tone would be there, but that's about it.Punisher will be a good choice for him, past Punisher movies (the two before War Zone) tried to ground the character, so for a guy who likes to add as much realism as possible into a comic book film, it will suit him fine
DareDevil can't work well for his vision, it will be wrong to have a DareDevil movie without the character jumping high, leaping some distances forward, using the billy club and swing, and not jump and bounce all over the place when fighting
I considered it, which is why i asked him if he was trolling. I want to know why he thinks the film is bad.
That "shake up" could ruin WB's DC cinematic universe.
About things happening because the plot needs them to happen, yeah, i can see what you mean, the problem in Nolan's films is that they're normally more about the plot than the characters.No, I was not trolling. Interesting that the idea would even enter your mind, but whatever.
I explain here why I hate that movie:
http://forums.superherohype.com/showpost.php?p=26182671&postcount=58
About things happening because the plot needs them to happen, yeah, i can see what you mean, the problem in Nolan's films is that they're normally more about the plot than the characters.
However i disagree about Joker and Two-Face, Joker simply had a lot of things going on, if he picked some explosions he would use them, therefore he constantly had something he could use against his oponentes. As for Two-Face i think his arc made sence and worked in the film, it was shown that there was a darker side to him since the begining, as well has his view on chances.
You're joking right?
Nolan's Batman movies are the most faithful interpretations of Batman in a live-action film yet. They are for certain more faithful to the source material than The Avengers was. Read some of the Denny O'Neil/ Neil Adams or Steve Englehart/ Marshall Rogers runs, Year One, The Long Halloween, No Man's Land, or The Dark Knight Returns for before you make such a ridiculous statement. Avengers, as good as it was, didn't take much inspiration from the comics at all like the Nolan films did (who even went as far as directly lifting scenes from the pages).
To me he's always been a hit or miss director. Some of his movies are good and some are awful.
Memento - never saw it, no comment
Insomnia - decent
Batman Begins - really good
The Prestige - crap
TDK - mega crap
Inception - good
TDKR - bad
Marvel doesn't need him.
Oh, Avengers took a lot of inspiration from comics. It just didn't ape specific story arcs. Except for when it did, such as using Loki as the cause of the Avengers uniting.
( it also decided to steal the tone from DC comics, and be more optimistic. But since DC hasn't been using optimism in its movies of late anyway. . . )
I'm with you on the Batman sequels. They bore me to tears. But "The Prestige"??? Ahh man say it ain't so Kedrell! LOL
Men of Steel did that already. You don't start a cinematic universe with a movie as bad as this.
That's the reason no DCCU followed GL
I know tastes differ since even Transformers has its fans. speaking of it, since MoS and Transformers plots had about the depth and the mindless boring action sequences about the same amount, I guess the fan groups might be very congruent.No, you start a cinematic universe with a movie as GREAT as Man of Steel.
I know tastes differ since even Transformers has its fans. speaking of it, since MoS and Transformers plots had about the depth and the mindless boring action sequences about the same amount, I guess the fan groups might be very congruent.
This may surprise you but outside of these boards, comic films are all uniformly looked at as fairly mindless and lacking in depth, regardless of company of origin.
Even the better comic book films still rely on the same old tired tropes and in the end are centered around thin characters who rely on violence to solve problems.
The venn diagram of comicbook fans is just a circle.