Christopher Nolan's Inception (Thread II)

[redfirebird2008]

Yeah... those hoping for Inception to win Best Picture are only setting themselves up for disapointment. It'll definitely by nominated for the sake of buzz and for not nominating TDK and Nolan, but it won't win.

I just hope Nolan gets nominated for Director. He's been overdue for that bit of credit since Memento.

 

[Ipodman]

NOlan for director makes sense... but then again it could only be just for the buzz

 

[redfirebird2008]

NOlan for director makes sense... but then again it could only be just for the buzz

What?

 

[Figs]

What?

I think he might mean that they give it to him out of popularity as opposed to actually thinking he really deserves it.

Correct me if I'm wrong Ipodman.

 

[Ipodman]

Could be both

 

[Agent Orange]

Another attempt from WB to get Inception a few Oscar nominations. The featurette, now online and will also be release in theaters on December 31 specifically focus on the directing/writing from Christopher Nolan and the performance by Leonardo DiCaprio.
http://www.deadline.com/2010/12/warner-bros-serves-up-inception-reminder/

I must say it's a smart move from WB since Inception has been overlooked at some of the awards.

Some of the comments underneath the article... my God, the vitriol that Nolan manages to conjure is just mind-boggling.

 

[jmc]

It's actually absurd the amount of people who are desperately trying to dismiss Nolan as a director. It's like they fear the man.

 

[akfj]

Some of the comments underneath the article... my God, the vitriol that Nolan manages to conjure is just mind-boggling.

I think people get more annoyed with Nolan's fans than Nolan himself, it's just that it bleeds over on to him, unfortunately. It's a shame because Nolan always comes across as a really humble guy.

 

[Ipodman]

I'm sure Nolan is a nice guy in real life... Inception is definitely something more mainstream than the things he usually produce, so naturally more "common folks" will like his work.

 

[Christopher Nolan]

a nomination for best director should be a lock. dicaprio overlooked? I doubt that, he's performance wasnt that great. solid but nothing special.

 

[JAK®]

It's actually absurd the amount of people who are desperately trying to dismiss Nolan as a director. It's like they fear the man.

Hype backlash. The same thing happens with Avatar.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Ahahahahaha, you're actually comparing Avatar to Inception? Only thing that made Avatar stand out were the visuals, innovative film techniques and the cinematography. Inception has those as well as phenomenal directing, great acting, an awesome score and a complex story, which actually made you think while you were watching the film and even afterward.

 

[Christopher Nolan]

It's actually absurd the amount of people who are desperately trying to dismiss Nolan as a director. It's like they fear the man.

i said it many times. it's about the hype that surrounds nolan. everything he does creates a buzz nowadays. things started and got worse since the dark knight. that's why i'm a bit skeptical about nolan winning an oscar in the future. actually it would be a shock for me, if he wins an oscar this year. i dont think the academy likes that kind of hype. maybe things will change as soon as he is done with the batman franchise.

 

[JAK®]

Ahahahahaha, you're actually comparing Avatar to Inception? Only thing that made Avatar stand out were the visuals, innovative film techniques and the cinematography. Inception has those as well as phenomenal directing, great acting, an awesome score and a complex story, which actually made you think while you were watching the film and even afterward.

No, I wasn't comparing Avatar to Inception. But thank you for proving my point.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Limbo isn't "someone else's dream," it's everybody's dream.

Besides, if Saito were to use the totem against Cobb, he would have made it fall, not let it keep on spinning. The danger is if someone is able to make it seem like you were in reality when you were not.

Ah, now it makes sense.

 

[Solidus]

Sorry this is so long, but I hope some of the posters on here do read it.

This is something that has just been bugging me for a long time so I have to rant about it. This whole, Nolan fans are horrible, and his movies are over-rated, and Nolan fans think he can do no wrong BS is just ridiculous. On these forums it does come down to two things linked to each other that cause this animosity. Jealousy and popularity.

I guarantee if Speilberg started his career when the Internet existed, there would be tons of people saying “Speilberg is over-rated”, or “Speilberg fans think he can do no wrong” “E.T. really was not that good, it was not as intelligent as some would suggest” You would hear all the same stuff, because he’s popular. People on forums whether they like to admit it or not (I admit it to myself all the time) we are a minority of a minority of a minority of people out there. Many think because they post on the Internet it means they are more intelligent than the “rest” of them out there. And that somehow “we” understand film/everything else better then everyone, because we hide behind their anonymous personality. It is clear with the Nolan hate that many hate it purely because it’s popular. Because now when they go up to most people and talk about Inception or TDK the person will react, they may not have gotten as much out of the film as we do, but they will interact, hence some people get mad, because now they don’t feel intelligent or superior, because the product is popular. So they turn to that person in the restaurant and say, “TDK sucked, it was over-rated” in other words the person is saying: “You’re an idiot, I’m smarter then you. “

It is clear on these boards too when you see the people that usually complain about Nolan fans, or how Nolan’s films are not that intelligent or smart, they have Marvel avatars, or another hero. The reason they do this (not all of them by the way I’ll say more later on that) but it’s because they are jealous. Now that a hero that they did not love, is now considered the king by the majority, they are pissed. I never cried and whined when Spidey was on top, I loved the films and gave it thumbs up. But so many want to tear down TDK and so forth mainly because it’s not their hero of choice. Some try to act as if it’s some other reason, which it may be to a point, but their constant berating and ripping on people who like it is just ridiculous.

Do I think people have a right to an opinion of course, we all do. I just think some people’s opinion is more hidden with another agenda. Either it be they are pissed that it is popular, so they must rip on it to make themselves feel superior. Or that they are mad that it did better than a film they liked, (which really is odd since no one really has anything invested in a given film besides emotion) so they rip on it to again make themselves feel superior or more intelligent. I think everyone deserves an opinion, but I Think some have an agenda behind it, and it may not be what they truly feel but they need to antagonize it for whatever reason.

I love the Social Network, great film, but I find it funny that many that tare praising it, it’s actually looking directly at you and pointing at you. Especially the line: “You write your snide bull s*** from a dark room because that’s what the angry do now a days.” That line is more true than most of them realize, and it is talking directly to them. People don’t realize that spending your time “hating” something is not psychologically healthy, however, on the internet it is like a past time, and usually allowed, and hidden by the “it’s my opinion” when usually there is a reason behind it, usually anger and jealousy.

Example Twilight, I don’t like the films at all, however I never have ran into the threads saying how stupid everyone is that likes it, and that I’m more intelligent because I think so. I find it funny that so many create threads on here just to hate about it, again, they do it to puff up their chest. I feel sorry because I’ve seen people like Angle Farie get ripped on for something she likes, it’s unfair. But then they must remember that doing the same to TDK fans or Nolan fans is just as unfair.

I remember myself I fell into this trap for a brief time, and it’s not something good at all. With Avatar, I did not care for the movie still do not. But I posted for about a week on there, saying how simple I saw the film as. Then I realized that I was as bad as the people that do this for other films. I was trying to make myself feel superior, because this film was insanely popular, and I did not care for it. It broke the record of everything, and it angered me. So then I took a step back and said, I just won’t post in there anymore, there are millions of super intelligent people that love this movie for whatever reason, so why should I go in and try to make myself feel superior, and say that they are not as intelligent as they think they are. It’s just rude.

It really comes down to jealousy and popularity. Most (not all) on here are big nerds, and usually (not always) we are people that are not the socially popular. So I think since High School many on here have been hardwired to hate the “popular kids” I had a friend that hated this beautiful popular girl. I had known her since she was little and we were good friends. And I asked why did he hate her? He simply could only say because she’s everything I’m not, and I don’t like that she’s popular and I’m not. One time he also talked about how he hated Metallica after 1990, because they became “mainstream” I laugh at stuff like that because that usually does not mean their music sucks, or is worse, it’s just that he was jealous that it was now popular. And he could not stand it.

That is sadly the case with the Nolan-Hate train around the internet. Many are pissed that he is popular. It was funny people praised him prior to Begins, then he made a film that was popular especially after TDK, and all of a sudden the films they praised like Memento were “over rated too”. People just don’t like anyone popular. I already foresee that if The Wolverine is good, which I’m sure it will be, many will say Darren is actually not that good, and his other films are over-rated, due to the fact that now he is popular, and many people know his work, or are now learning of his previous work.

Is there anything wrong with having a different opinion of course not I’m not saying one cannot hate Nolan’s work, or dislike it. But many do it for reasons that have nothing to do with the film, but the fans of it. Example, Mr. Earle is a known poster in the Batman forums, he does not care for Nolan’s vision that much at all, especially TDK’s. But you know what? I respect the hell out of him. And I respect his opinion. Because from what I see Earle does not try to rip on the film, to get at the fans, and to make himself seem more intelligent. What Earle does is he truly does not care for the artistic vision of BB and TDK as much and he has valid points for it. He never tries to say we are stupid because we think differently, he gives coherent and full thoughts of it, but he does not call people that like the vision of Nolan’s Bat films idiots, or unintelligent. People can have different thoughts like this.

However when people come into it and try to start something that really is for attention and to piss people off, it’s not good. It reminds me of Dave Chappelle “pleading the fif” in one of his skits. It’s like many run up to a person smack them in the face then run behind the “opinion wall” and shout from there. I’ve seen some almost try to create their opinion of certain films like TDK and say that it’s laughable, and that it’s horribly written, and has tons of plot holes, and yet somehow almost all the professionals in Hollywood praised TDK’s writings, including well known Script writing magazines, or the WGA themselves. And what they agenda is sometimes from these kind of things, is that “Hey Nolan fans or TDK fans or Inception fans are not that smart, I’m smarter, and I’m showing you this, and I’m telling you your stupid for thinking what you think.” This kind of stuff is irritating and tiring, to me a lot of this really is a subtle form of trolling. It reminds me of Ace of Knaves and his many accounts. You would talk about Paris Hilton’s sex tape and somehow he would bring up how TDK is over-rated. 99% of the time TDK is brought up anymore is someone saying it’s not that good, and it’s because they want superiority, and attention.

In conclusion I am saying that yes everyone can have their opinion. But I think some are guided by other motives to either have the opinion, or use it as an excuse to irritate, and troll the forums with immunity. I posted this because one time I almost fell in this trap and still do on occasion we are human after all. But I’m not consistent about it. I find it odd how many people that hate Nolan’s films or the Begins series and yet they spend all their time on the TDKR forums. I hate football (sorry football fans lol) so I will not spend my time in the Sports section of the hype and tell them how stupid it is. Because if I did then what I’m really trying to do is act as if I’m superior to them. I’m not. I can go and do this, but why waste the time? And that’s why I think many do have a second agenda they are trying to achieve, and it is irritation and creating security for their own insecurities in life. You don’t like something great, but spending so much time and energy hating Nolan fans or something similar…you must be doing it for some other reason than “your opinion”

Sorry for the long rant, I’ve just been like a pressure cooker with this lol.

 

[Gold Samurai]

It's actually absurd the amount of people who are desperately trying to dismiss Nolan as a director. It's like they fear the man.

They say he can fly

 

[Christopher Nolan]

Solidus

too much time ? hehe...waste of time..

 

[Solidus]

I'm on vacation lol. And it's something that I've just wanted to say for a long time.

 

[Christopher Nolan]

i can understand you, but it wont change. just wait a bit longer then it starts again. as soon as the dark knight rises and spidey reboot release date gets closer ....

 

[Solidus]

I know, my words may not change much, but maybe just a little lol. One can always hope.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Spoiler

Sorry this is so long, but I hope some of the posters on here do read it.

This is something that has just been bugging me for a long time so I have to rant about it. This whole, Nolan fans are horrible, and his movies are over-rated, and Nolan fans think he can do no wrong BS is just ridiculous. On these forums it does come down to two things linked to each other that cause this animosity. Jealousy and popularity.

I guarantee if Speilberg started his career when the Internet existed, there would be tons of people saying “Speilberg is over-rated”, or “Speilberg fans think he can do no wrong” “E.T. really was not that good, it was not as intelligent as some would suggest” You would hear all the same stuff, because he’s popular. People on forums whether they like to admit it or not (I admit it to myself all the time) we are a minority of a minority of a minority of people out there. Many think because they post on the Internet it means they are more intelligent than the “rest” of them out there. And that somehow “we” understand film/everything else better then everyone, because we hide behind their anonymous personality. It is clear with the Nolan hate that many hate it purely because it’s popular. Because now when they go up to most people and talk about Inception or TDK the person will react, they may not have gotten as much out of the film as we do, but they will interact, hence some people get mad, because now they don’t feel intelligent or superior, because the product is popular. So they turn to that person in the restaurant and say, “TDK sucked, it was over-rated” in other words the person is saying: “You’re an idiot, I’m smarter then you. “

It is clear on these boards too when you see the people that usually complain about Nolan fans, or how Nolan’s films are not that intelligent or smart, they have Marvel avatars, or another hero. The reason they do this (not all of them by the way I’ll say more later on that) but it’s because they are jealous. Now that a hero that they did not love, is now considered the king by the majority, they are pissed. I never cried and whined when Spidey was on top, I loved the films and gave it thumbs up. But so many want to tear down TDK and so forth mainly because it’s not their hero of choice. Some try to act as if it’s some other reason, which it may be to a point, but their constant berating and ripping on people who like it is just ridiculous.

Do I think people have a right to an opinion of course, we all do. I just think some people’s opinion is more hidden with another agenda. Either it be they are pissed that it is popular, so they must rip on it to make themselves feel superior. Or that they are mad that it did better than a film they liked, (which really is odd since no one really has anything invested in a given film besides emotion) so they rip on it to again make themselves feel superior or more intelligent. I think everyone deserves an opinion, but I Think some have an agenda behind it, and it may not be what they truly feel but they need to antagonize it for whatever reason.

I love the Social Network, great film, but I find it funny that many that tare praising it, it’s actually looking directly at you and pointing at you. Especially the line: “You write your snide bull s*** from a dark room because that’s what the angry do now a days.” That line is more true than most of them realize, and it is talking directly to them. People don’t realize that spending your time “hating” something is not psychologically healthy, however, on the internet it is like a past time, and usually allowed, and hidden by the “it’s my opinion” when usually there is a reason behind it, usually anger and jealousy.

Example Twilight, I don’t like the films at all, however I never have ran into the threads saying how stupid everyone is that likes it, and that I’m more intelligent because I think so. I find it funny that so many create threads on here just to hate about it, again, they do it to puff up their chest. I feel sorry because I’ve seen people like Angle Farie get ripped on for something she likes, it’s unfair. But then they must remember that doing the same to TDK fans or Nolan fans is just as unfair.

I remember myself I fell into this trap for a brief time, and it’s not something good at all. With Avatar, I did not care for the movie still do not. But I posted for about a week on there, saying how simple I saw the film as. Then I realized that I was as bad as the people that do this for other films. I was trying to make myself feel superior, because this film was insanely popular, and I did not care for it. It broke the record of everything, and it angered me. So then I took a step back and said, I just won’t post in there anymore, there are millions of super intelligent people that love this movie for whatever reason, so why should I go in and try to make myself feel superior, and say that they are not as intelligent as they think they are. It’s just rude.

It really comes down to jealousy and popularity. Most (not all) on here are big nerds, and usually (not always) we are people that are not the socially popular. So I think since High School many on here have been hardwired to hate the “popular kids” I had a friend that hated this beautiful popular girl. I had known her since she was little and we were good friends. And I asked why did he hate her? He simply could only say because she’s everything I’m not, and I don’t like that she’s popular and I’m not. One time he also talked about how he hated Metallica after 1990, because they became “mainstream” I laugh at stuff like that because that usually does not mean their music sucks, or is worse, it’s just that he was jealous that it was now popular. And he could not stand it.

That is sadly the case with the Nolan-Hate train around the internet. Many are pissed that he is popular. It was funny people praised him prior to Begins, then he made a film that was popular especially after TDK, and all of a sudden the films they praised like Memento were “over rated too”. People just don’t like anyone popular. I already foresee that if The Wolverine is good, which I’m sure it will be, many will say Darren is actually not that good, and his other films are over-rated, due to the fact that now he is popular, and many people know his work, or are now learning of his previous work.

Is there anything wrong with having a different opinion of course not I’m not saying one cannot hate Nolan’s work, or dislike it. But many do it for reasons that have nothing to do with the film, but the fans of it. Example, Mr. Earle is a known poster in the Batman forums, he does not care for Nolan’s vision that much at all, especially TDK’s. But you know what? I respect the hell out of him. And I respect his opinion. Because from what I see Earle does not try to rip on the film, to get at the fans, and to make himself seem more intelligent. What Earle does is he truly does not care for the artistic vision of BB and TDK as much and he has valid points for it. He never tries to say we are stupid because we think differently, he gives coherent and full thoughts of it, but he does not call people that like the vision of Nolan’s Bat films idiots, or unintelligent. People can have different thoughts like this.

However when people come into it and try to start something that really is for attention and to piss people off, it’s not good. It reminds me of Dave Chappelle “pleading the fif” in one of his skits. It’s like many run up to a person smack them in the face then run behind the “opinion wall” and shout from there. I’ve seen some almost try to create their opinion of certain films like TDK and say that it’s laughable, and that it’s horribly written, and has tons of plot holes, and yet somehow almost all the professionals in Hollywood praised TDK’s writings, including well known Script writing magazines, or the WGA themselves. And what they agenda is sometimes from these kind of things, is that “Hey Nolan fans or TDK fans or Inception fans are not that smart, I’m smarter, and I’m showing you this, and I’m telling you your stupid for thinking what you think.” This kind of stuff is irritating and tiring, to me a lot of this really is a subtle form of trolling. It reminds me of Ace of Knaves and his many accounts. You would talk about Paris Hilton’s sex tape and somehow he would bring up how TDK is over-rated. 99% of the time TDK is brought up anymore is someone saying it’s not that good, and it’s because they want superiority, and attention.

In conclusion I am saying that yes everyone can have their opinion. But I think some are guided by other motives to either have the opinion, or use it as an excuse to irritate, and troll the forums with immunity. I posted this because one time I almost fell in this trap and still do on occasion we are human after all. But I’m not consistent about it. I find it odd how many people that hate Nolan’s films or the Begins series and yet they spend all their time on the TDKR forums. I hate football (sorry football fans lol) so I will not spend my time in the Sports section of the hype and tell them how stupid it is. Because if I did then what I’m really trying to do is act as if I’m superior to them. I’m not. I can go and do this, but why waste the time? And that’s why I think many do have a second agenda they are trying to achieve, and it is irritation and creating security for their own insecurities in life. You don’t like something great, but spending so much time and energy hating Nolan fans or something similar…you must be doing it for some other reason than “your opinion”

Sorry for the long rant, I’ve just been like a pressure cooker with this lol.

This post is full of

 

[redfirebird2008]

Sorry for the long rant, I’ve just been like a pressure cooker with this lol.

The Internet...serious business.

 

[redhawk23]

I cant stand when people say this will only be nominated for the buzz. This movie will be nominated because it really is one of the 10 best films of the year.

 

[Solidus]

The Internet...serious business.

Always!!! t: